I know I'm pretty well in a minority of one when it comes to this but I'd have knocked the whole thing down and rebuilt something decent elsewhere.
Quote from: Risso on February 15, 2023, 02:36:47 PMI know I'm pretty well in a minority of one when it comes to this but I'd have knocked the whole thing down and rebuilt something decent elsewhere.I don't think Everton fans will regret their move, a fantastic stadium right on the Mersey and right next to the City centre - it will be fantastic. However, for us it would invariably have meant the NEC and I can't think of anything more souless than a modern bowl on the M42.
Quote from: chrisw1 on February 15, 2023, 02:56:07 PMQuote from: Risso on February 15, 2023, 02:36:47 PMI know I'm pretty well in a minority of one when it comes to this but I'd have knocked the whole thing down and rebuilt something decent elsewhere.I don't think Everton fans will regret their move, a fantastic stadium right on the Mersey and right next to the City centre - it will be fantastic. However, for us it would invariably have meant the NEC and I can't think of anything more souless than a modern bowl on the M42.It didn't have to be the NEC. For years Everton were talking about something just off the M57 and East Lancs in Kirkby, before finding somewhere just out of the city centre on the banks of the Mersey. If they can do that, constrained as they are by what is effectively the sea, why couldn't Villa? Even when the new North Stand is built, the Witton will still be a cheaply built, dated, cramped piece of shit, and the facilities in the Trinity and Holte will still mostly be poor. All of the usual problems of traffic and access, will if anything be worse.
I would have loved Smithfield, can’t really think of anywhere else except maybe the Gun Quarter, which is still more or less Aston.I think there are good things about where we are though. The setting near the park and church is beautiful, there are two railway stations and basically the best motorway connection you could wish for within minutes of the ground.I think if we bought local housing in an ethical manner (unlike Liverpool obvs), we could do everything we want on the current site - big new Witton Lane stand and rail seating in the Holte. That would take us to about 65k maybe?Does anybody know how we compare in terms of acreage to other grounds we would aspire to be like?
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on February 15, 2023, 04:11:07 PMI would have loved Smithfield, can’t really think of anywhere else except maybe the Gun Quarter, which is still more or less Aston.I think there are good things about where we are though. The setting near the park and church is beautiful, there are two railway stations and basically the best motorway connection you could wish for within minutes of the ground.I think if we bought local housing in an ethical manner (unlike Liverpool obvs), we could do everything we want on the current site - big new Witton Lane stand and rail seating in the Holte. That would take us to about 65k maybe?Does anybody know how we compare in terms of acreage to other grounds we would aspire to be like?We're in the middle of a residential area so space is at a premium. Man City seemed to have acres and acres of free land outside, they could build another four grounds if the wanted to. But then the ground is an area specifically targeted when they got the Commonwealth games because there wasn't much there. Brum didn't seem to get anywhere near as good a deal.