Aston Villa v Leicester City Post Match Thread

[Clampy]

Apart from one or two understandbly pissed off posts straight after the match, it seems people are more disappointed with how we gave it away than how we played, which at times was very very good and like Peter Withe said on another thread, we still could have won it. I'm disappointed but encouraged at the same time.

[Percy McCarthy]

Typical Villa chance to get into the top half, and we blew it, but at least we can take some positives from the match. Could have done with the points with Man City, Arsenal coming up and then Everton away, which now is gonna be a lot tougher than it would have been a few weeks ago.

Regarding kicking towards the Holte in the first half, yes it has benefited in a couple of games, but as a general rule we're always gonna win more matches kicking towards the Holte in the second half. When it's a tough game, going into the last quarter of a match, looking for a winner it's always gonna benefit us more, that's why it's called our 12th man and why we've always done that in our history and every other club in the country does it.

Not for me that. I think in today’s football the first goal is more important than it’s ever been.

I’d like to see percentages for how many teams win after scoring first against the percentages for wins after going behind, and base my preference on that.

Obviously, I already know the former is far higher.

[Percy McCarthy]

Apart from one or two understandbly pissed off posts straight after the match, it seems people are more disappointed with how we gave it away than how we played, which at times was very very good and like Peter Withe said on another thread, we still could have won it. I'm disappointed but encouraged at the same time.

Absolutely. I thought we looked really good going forward, and am optimistic about what Duran and Bertie T can add to that. Over the next few weeks I’d like to see big Jhon eased into the Bailey role.

[kipeye]

Getting beaten is more exciting than it used to be.

[Beard82]

Criticising Watkins for his performance today is ridiculous. Sure he missed his easiest chance, and made a mess of the opportunity Coutinho laid on for him. But he did very well to react first for the goal, something he gets criticized a lot for. Stroke of luck for the own goal but his movement was sharp and he got a good shot off. Aside from those moments, he worked hard, held the ball up well and was a threat throughout. Miles better than he was v Southampton anyway.

As a forward player, part of his role is making and taking chances so it’s entirely relevant to analyze that part of his game. It would be strange not to. It would be akin to saying that Olsen’s throwing is excellent but people shouldn’t criticize his shot stopping when 4 sail past him. And today whilst scoring one good goal demonstrating excellent reactions, Ollie missed 2/3 other presentable chances.

I think herein lies the problem - Watkins is a mid table player so he scored 1 when a better player would have scored 2 or 3.  Some worse strikers would have scored none.

But if we are to progress Watkins needs to take more of the chances or we need other options.  We now have fewer options then before. 

Without being overly negative this idea of Jam tomorrow misses the key point that we won’t keep better players and then it becomes a consitent rebuild

[Footy-Vill]

Leicester have the quality to beat anyone on their day, and they have shown in recent seasons that they are a top 6 to near top 4 side, so it wasn't a simple 3 points, but taking the lead twice and the current form of both teams, it was very disappointing to get no points at all. This appears to be an indication that we are still finding our way and that teams, despite being lower in the table, will be difficult to beat.

[Baldy]

A disappointing day in the office due to schoolboy errors but encouraging to see us getting better every week at passing and moving, particularly when going forward.

[Chris Smith]

Down to earth with a bump for Kamara and to a lesser extent Moreno. Three of the goals we conceded were down to their mistakes. Hopefully they’ll leant from it but when you gift goals to any team in this division you are going to struggle to win the game. Lots of positives from our attacking play though.

[Ads]

Thought I'd give myself sometime to chew over that to clear the head, as a litany of four letter words wouldn't contribute much, as carthatic as it may have been.

Sometimes you're going to lose and sometimes you're going to be beaten by a better side. Sometimes you're going to make individual errors and they'll be costly.

Yesterday I saw us concede 4 and have to wait until the 95th minute for the opposition to play through us to create a chance, in a game where we should have conceded 5 and all 5 would have been absolute (I cannot emphasise that word enough) gifts.

I'm not sure I've seen that before in 30 odd years. The fact I can't suggests it's a fresh horror the Villa has inflicted on me or something so awful that it's suppressed deep within my unconscious.

Kamara is a stupendous player, but my word, that performance was incredibly poor. Giving the ball away, giving a pair of goals away. Crikey. Players being unmarked 6 yards out and a fresh air swipe. Horror shows and calamitous one and all.

We actually played some nice stuff, broke through them regularly enough where we should have buried a pair of chances 2nd half, while Ramsey and Watkins should have scored too.

If you're laying out from the back, and we should, it's not new and it's not foreign, it creates space and that is the key to the objective of the game- then we should do it smartly and with some pace. I think we're too pedestrian with it, so even half hearted presses can work us out.

The variation is weak too, as Mings long balls are hoofs and don't cause problems. Carlos will change that, as a huge part of his game in possession are long and accurate passes. Elongate the spaces to press at your peril. Konsa needs to be more patient and wait for that central pass. Ignore the groans of the crowd and move it, quickly, elsewhere. Stop playing the midfield into trouble. There's lots of little things they can and will improve on, but I think both centre halves days are numbered.

A stupid game, one we should have won and won at ease. To be beaten in that manner is incredibly irritating. I think if the first goal didn't happen or perhaps the nature of it was different then perhaps the game pans out another way. The first 9 minutes was so dominating and the drop off for the next 20-ish so severe, the ayers heads had clearly fallen off.

I like what we're doing, I like our manager a great deal. I like how proactive he is, I like the way we play. I am lookimg forward to the upgrades in the summer and I'm looking forward to the last 18 games of this season. I don't think we've given up on it.

6 at the back incoming though.

[Nev]

A great shame to lose our first Saturday 3pm for an age, the atmosphere in the pubs in town was great.
As has been said, a game with much to be happy about and we aren't going to be the team that Emery envisages for a while yet. It's flattened the weekend but Rome wasn't built in a day.
I got the score right on the pre match thread, just the wrong way 'round.

[Bobby Boy]

It was a basketball style game because both midfields allowed the other team to play.

Leicester did press though high up the pitch hence the errors

I don’t care about Leicester but I do worry that we don’t have the personnel to press, particularly in midfield, so that good teams ( and Leicester have clever forward players) can exploit us.

Kamara, Luiz and Ramsey all have their qualities but pressing isn’t one of them.

Letting teams play will kill you.

[PeterWithe]

Was this some kind of special occasion or day out for Leicester? they seemed to have far more, very pissed, very gobby wannabe hardmen in the coach park than I’ve ever noticed before?

[Brazilian Villain]

Was this some kind of special occasion or day out for Leicester? they seemed to have far more, very pissed, very gobby wannabe hardmen in the coach park than I’ve ever noticed before?

Rodgers told them it was a "derby"

[Bobby Boy]

Was this some kind of special occasion or day out for Leicester? they seemed to have far more, very pissed, very gobby wannabe hardmen in the coach park than I’ve ever noticed before?

Rodgers told them it was a "derby"

Last season too. Quite a bunch of in your face fans about the place.

They need to relax a bit.

[Ads]

Was this some kind of special occasion or day out for Leicester? they seemed to have far more, very pissed, very gobby wannabe hardmen in the coach park than I’ve ever noticed before?

I forgot my sons coat so went to the club shop to pick something up and did notice there was a lot of them barely old enough to drink and not currently shaving that were getting the badge in. They even had a song about us and our silverware.