Aston Villa v Leicester City Post Match Thread

[Paul.S]

On a lighter note, did anyone see that clown from Leicester getting turfed out of the Bartons. His refrain on departure was "Champions of England...you'll never sing that".  Bless.

No, but I heard them singing we’d not won anything for 40 years. Maths really isn’t there thing is it?

[Paul.S]

Yep this idea that we’re going to fix all our issues in the summer is pie in the sky.

if we only get a couple in then there’s no chance. A total revamp is needed with quite a few out as well as in. We must improve defensively, out wide and upfront. If we do then there’s a chance we’ll improve and challenge for 6th/7th. It’ll cost and we’ll soon see how ambitious we really are.

Do that though and we'll get endless comments about it needing months to gel.

What we must do this summer is sign a good quality FB (will have to be RB given we might not be able to shift Digne and Moreno has just signed), enough so one of Konsa/Mings isn't a regular starter next season and also same for midfield and someone like McGinn. And of course someone who's reliable in final third given how wildly inconsistent Bailey and Watkins are even from half to half.

At least Buendia is getting there. He was good today and really should've had much more than one assist so he's getting there in Emery's system which is a big positive.

I don’t think either Mings or Konsa are good enough for Emery’s style of passing it out from the back. I can see both being replaced for that reason.
Bailey needs to have a very good end to the season otherwise he’ll either end up being sold or warming the bench. Then there’s the goalscorer we are crying out for. We may keep 1 or 2 of them but I can’t see any of them being automatic starters as they are now. He may want to bolster the centre of midfield as well. These are, for me issues that stand out a mile that we need to sort. We may have to wait a few windows but just a couple in during the summer won’t be enough.

The goalkeeper is where it all begins.
Do you believe Martinez is a good fit for this style of play? What do you say about him considering that you wanted to mention Konsa and Mings as well but where are you on the role of the goalkeeper?

Mings and Konsa have both expressed a willingness to learn and, at the very least, appear open and receptive.
There are centre backs with superior possession skills out there than both of them, but now that we have a top coach, everyone has a chance to grow.

My view on Martinez is that he’s a world class goalkeeper and more than capable with his feet. 1 mistake doesn’t change my view.
Neither Mings or Konsa good enough with the ball or defensively for me. They have the rest of the season to impress and improve but both ends of the pitch need upgrading.

[kippaxvilla2]

Can someone with good statto knowledge (footy) put my mind at rest and tell me we are going to be safe this season?

[Footy-Vill]

Yep this idea that we’re going to fix all our issues in the summer is pie in the sky.

if we only get a couple in then there’s no chance. A total revamp is needed with quite a few out as well as in. We must improve defensively, out wide and upfront. If we do then there’s a chance we’ll improve and challenge for 6th/7th. It’ll cost and we’ll soon see how ambitious we really are.

Do that though and we'll get endless comments about it needing months to gel.

What we must do this summer is sign a good quality FB (will have to be RB given we might not be able to shift Digne and Moreno has just signed), enough so one of Konsa/Mings isn't a regular starter next season and also same for midfield and someone like McGinn. And of course someone who's reliable in final third given how wildly inconsistent Bailey and Watkins are even from half to half.

At least Buendia is getting there. He was good today and really should've had much more than one assist so he's getting there in Emery's system which is a big positive.

I don’t think either Mings or Konsa are good enough for Emery’s style of passing it out from the back. I can see both being replaced for that reason.
Bailey needs to have a very good end to the season otherwise he’ll either end up being sold or warming the bench. Then there’s the goalscorer we are crying out for. We may keep 1 or 2 of them but I can’t see any of them being automatic starters as they are now. He may want to bolster the centre of midfield as well. These are, for me issues that stand out a mile that we need to sort. We may have to wait a few windows but just a couple in during the summer won’t be enough.

The goalkeeper is where it all begins.
Do you believe Martinez is a good fit for this style of play? What do you say about him considering that you wanted to mention Konsa and Mings as well but where are you on the role of the goalkeeper?

Mings and Konsa have both expressed a willingness to learn and, at the very least, appear open and receptive.
There are centre backs with superior possession skills out there than both of them, but now that we have a top coach, everyone has a chance to grow.

My view on Martinez is that he’s a world class goalkeeper and more than capable with his feet. 1 mistake doesn’t change my view.
Neither Mings or Konsa good enough with the ball or defensively for me. They have the rest of the season to impress and improve but both ends of the pitch need upgrading.

Thats fair enough.
I think we'll all hoping for a stong summer with impressive signings and before then all the playing squad need to demonstrate whatever abilities to they have for a good remainder of season!

[Risso]

Can someone with good statto knowledge (footy) put my mind at rest and tell me we are going to be safe this season?

We're going to be safe this season. It would have to be the worst form we've experienced since we went down to get relegated. 17 games left, and three wins pretty well guarantees safety. If we only win three more games all season then Emery will be joining Smith and Gerrard on the dole queue.

[Steve67]

I prefer it when we are understated and don't get ahead of ourselves as this shower will constantly let us down.  That said, we are halfway, largely because the set of players we have, apart from Kamara and Emi are mid-table players, particularly defensively.  It needs ripping up and starting again, this will take time, three to four windows, hopefully the really decent players, will stick with us. Kamara cost us two goals today.  Unusual for him as he's been brilliant.  Cash, Konsa, Mings, Digne, Luiz, McGinn Watkins, Bailey will all need upgrades if we have the ambitions to go higher.  Emery can only do so much but some of the will need to be replaced if we can get rid of them.  Consistency is the key at the moment, until we start trading for better players.

[Footy-Vill]

Can someone with good statto knowledge (footy) put my mind at rest and tell me we are going to be safe this season?

The teams we still have to play at home below us in the league are Palace, Bournemouth, Forest. So lets hope we learnt from Leicester.

We are on  29pts . 7 more will do it from 17 games as each season, teams must earn an average of 35.7 points—basically 36—to stay in the Premier League on stats.

[Legion]

On a lighter note, did anyone see that clown from Leicester getting turfed out of the Bartons. His refrain on departure was "Champions of England...you'll never sing that".  Bless.

No, but I heard them singing we’d not won anything for 40 years. Maths really isn’t there thing is it?

their. Sorry. Can't help myself.

[kippaxvilla2]

Can someone with good statto knowledge (footy) put my mind at rest and tell me we are going to be safe this season?

The teams we still have to play at home below us in the league are Palace, Bournemouth, Forest. So lets hope we learnt from Leicester.

We are on  29pts . 7 more will do it from 17 games as each season, teams must earn an average of 35.7 points—basically 36—to stay in the Premier League on stats.

Not on 29 are we yet?  Anyway this reassures me along with Martins rationale.  Thank you.  Sooner we get them on the board the better.  I do hope the defence isn’t going to turn to shit now.

[Paul.S]

Yep this idea that we’re going to fix all our issues in the summer is pie in the sky.

if we only get a couple in then there’s no chance. A total revamp is needed with quite a few out as well as in. We must improve defensively, out wide and upfront. If we do then there’s a chance we’ll improve and challenge for 6th/7th. It’ll cost and we’ll soon see how ambitious we really are.

Do that though and we'll get endless comments about it needing months to gel.

What we must do this summer is sign a good quality FB (will have to be RB given we might not be able to shift Digne and Moreno has just signed), enough so one of Konsa/Mings isn't a regular starter next season and also same for midfield and someone like McGinn. And of course someone who's reliable in final third given how wildly inconsistent Bailey and Watkins are even from half to half.

At least Buendia is getting there. He was good today and really should've had much more than one assist so he's getting there in Emery's system which is a big positive.

I don’t think either Mings or Konsa are good enough for Emery’s style of passing it out from the back. I can see both being replaced for that reason.
Bailey needs to have a very good end to the season otherwise he’ll either end up being sold or warming the bench. Then there’s the goalscorer we are crying out for. We may keep 1 or 2 of them but I can’t see any of them being automatic starters as they are now. He may want to bolster the centre of midfield as well. These are, for me issues that stand out a mile that we need to sort. We may have to wait a few windows but just a couple in during the summer won’t be enough.

The goalkeeper is where it all begins.
Do you believe Martinez is a good fit for this style of play? What do you say about him considering that you wanted to mention Konsa and Mings as well but where are you on the role of the goalkeeper?

Mings and Konsa have both expressed a willingness to learn and, at the very least, appear open and receptive.
There are centre backs with superior possession skills out there than both of them, but now that we have a top coach, everyone has a chance to grow.

My view on Martinez is that he’s a world class goalkeeper and more than capable with his feet. 1 mistake doesn’t change my view.
Neither Mings or Konsa good enough with the ball or defensively for me. They have the rest of the season to impress and improve but both ends of the pitch need upgrading.

Thats fair enough.
I think we'll all hoping for a stong summer with impressive signings and before then all the playing squad need to demonstrate whatever abilities to they have for a good remainder of season!

We’ve been told we will have a strong summer so let’s hold them to that but nothing would make me happier than a lot of this squad to improve and stay with us. Whatever happens I will never knock any of them for not giving 100%.

[Steve67]

Can someone with good statto knowledge (footy) put my mind at rest and tell me we are going to be safe this season?

We have a really tough February with Man City. Arsenal and Everton but then things pick up in March and that is when we will get points on the board.  Like you though, I will be happier once we get to around 38 points as Everton, West ham and Wolves are all a bit closer to us tonight.  Bournemouth, Southampton look doomed, not sure yet who that third team is.  Might be a surprise package.

[rougegorge]

Can someone with good statto knowledge (footy) put my mind at rest and tell me we are going to be safe this season?

The teams we still have to play at home below us in the league are Palace, Bournemouth, Forest. So lets hope we learnt from Leicester.

We are on  29pts . 7 more will do it from 17 games as each season, teams must earn an average of 35.7 points—basically 36—to stay in the Premier League on stats.

Not on 29 are we yet?  Anyway this reassures me along with Martins rationale.  Thank you.  Sooner we get them on the board the better.  I do hope the defence isn’t going to turn to shit now.

28 points currently. We can't slip more than one place even if we lose the next two games,  probable as that may be. So confidence most likely won't be high and then the game at Everton assumes big importance in order not to get sucked back into the lower reaches.

[Footy-Vill]

Can someone with good statto knowledge (footy) put my mind at rest and tell me we are going to be safe this season?

The teams we still have to play at home below us in the league are Palace, Bournemouth, Forest. So lets hope we learnt from Leicester.

We are on  29pts . 7 more will do it from 17 games as each season, teams must earn an average of 35.7 points—basically 36—to stay in the Premier League on stats.

Not on 29 are we yet?  Anyway this reassures me along with Martins rationale.  Thank you.  Sooner we get them on the board the better.  I do hope the defence isn’t going to turn to shit now.

Oh yes 28pts
Last time I looked at table was just after kick off and had us at 29pts. Hands up i messed up!
So maybe 8pts then needed as it were

[pablo_picasso]

Yep this idea that we’re going to fix all our issues in the summer is pie in the sky.

if we only get a couple in then there’s no chance. A total revamp is needed with quite a few out as well as in. We must improve defensively, out wide and upfront. If we do then there’s a chance we’ll improve and challenge for 6th/7th. It’ll cost and we’ll soon see how ambitious we really are.

Do that though and we'll get endless comments about it needing months to gel.

What we must do this summer is sign a good quality FB (will have to be RB given we might not be able to shift Digne and Moreno has just signed), enough so one of Konsa/Mings isn't a regular starter next season and also same for midfield and someone like McGinn. And of course someone who's reliable in final third given how wildly inconsistent Bailey and Watkins are even from half to half.

At least Buendia is getting there. He was good today and really should've had much more than one assist so he's getting there in Emery's system which is a big positive.

I don’t think either Mings or Konsa are good enough for Emery’s style of passing it out from the back. I can see both being replaced for that reason.
Bailey needs to have a very good end to the season otherwise he’ll either end up being sold or warming the bench. Then there’s the goalscorer we are crying out for. We may keep 1 or 2 of them but I can’t see any of them being automatic starters as they are now. He may want to bolster the centre of midfield as well. These are, for me issues that stand out a mile that we need to sort. We may have to wait a few windows but just a couple in during the summer won’t be enough.

The goalkeeper is where it all begins.
Do you believe Martinez is a good fit for this style of play? What do you say about him considering that you wanted to mention Konsa and Mings as well but where are you on the role of the goalkeeper?

Mings and Konsa have both expressed a willingness to learn and, at the very least, appear open and receptive.
There are centre backs with superior possession skills out there than both of them, but now that we have a top coach, everyone has a chance to grow.

Martinez does ok playing possession football for Argentina...

[Hillbilly]

Not sure why Mings and Konsa are getting so much grief here. Twice Kamara got done and put the defence in strife when we were transitioning forward and then Moreno stuffed up. It’s a pity Buendia’s best game coincided with Kamara’s worst. Fair play to Branton for short-circuiting how we play from the back, Emery needs to counter that now other managers will follow suite.