Aston Villa v Leicester City Post Match Thread

[curiousorange]

I always viewed it happening in three or four stages: a squad to keep us up, giving way to a squad to establish us, giving way to a squad capable of a consistent European push. I also thought the cost would roughly double for each one. At the moment, we're playing with elements of all three when really, there should be none from the first one left.

[pauliewalnuts]

Yep this idea that we’re going to fix all our issues in the summer is pie in the sky.

if we only get a couple in then there’s no chance. A total revamp is needed with quite a few out as well as in. We must improve defensively, out wide and upfront. If we do then there’s a chance we’ll improve and challenge for 6th/7th. It’ll cost and we’ll soon see how ambitious we really are.

I think there has to be a realisation, as Risso said, that some players, who are big names around the club, need to be improved on.

McGinn, Mings, Konsa, Watkins (I know that sounds harsh today).

I’d keep Watkins in the squad but not the first 11. The rest I’d agree with 100% and I suspect Emery has seen it as well. I’d be looking at Bailey very closely as well until the end of the season.

Yes, that is fair enough with Watkins. And Bailey.

[pauliewalnuts]

I always viewed it happening in three or four stages: a squad to keep us up, giving way to a squad to establish us, giving way to a squad capable of a consistent European push. I also thought the cost would roughly double for each one. At the moment, we're playing with elements of all three when really, there should be none from the first one left.

Our net spend the last few windows is small (comparatively). We should be ok to go on a proper spree this summer, so hopefully we get in some players significantly better than the ones we have now.

No more excuses. Walk the walk time.

[Beard82]

I always viewed it happening in three or four stages: a squad to keep us up, giving way to a squad to establish us, giving way to a squad capable of a consistent European push. I also thought the cost would roughly double for each one. At the moment, we're playing with elements of all three when really, there should be none from the first one left.

I agree - we haven’t managed to strengthen the team consistently or successfully

[curiousorange]

I don't really get why FFP is a thing people keep bringing up either. Chelsea found such a creative way around it that UEFA let them do it and then banned it. They don't play by the rules so why do we have to be honourable about it? And Newcastle? Yeah, of course they're going to go after trophies organically.

[bob]

It’s dead set. When there is the slightest chance of 3 points getting us into a good position. We fuck it up. I reckon I’ve seen 20 years of it.

That’s why at 2-1 I bet on Leicester winning. I might as well get some joy out of it.

I’d have been very happy to lose my stake. Extremely happy.

But it was not to be.

Fair play.

I hope the bookies advertising has always been squeaky clean, SR!

[Small Rodent]

It’s dead set. When there is the slightest chance of 3 points getting us into a good position. We fuck it up. I reckon I’ve seen 20 years of it.

That’s why at 2-1 I bet on Leicester winning. I might as well get some joy out of it.

I’d have been very happy to lose my stake. Extremely happy.

But it was not to be.

Fair play.

I hope the bookies advertising has always been squeaky clean, SR!

Yes. There were no prepubescent girls involved. Just a fat old bloke shouting odds.

[bob]

I yearn for the days of hoofing it up to the big fella to flick on for the little man.

[rob_bridge]

First time in person for a while.

The packed ground is a sight to behold and don't ever take it for granted - I was at Saints game under Lambert when it was half full. The Holte was in great voice pre 4th goal.

As for the match - stupid mistake after mistake yet we created bucketloads in the first half and should have been 2 ahead. We defended rubbishly and paid the price at this level.

Thems the breaks. Lots to work on. Watkins Buendia, Bailey, Konsa and a few others have 15 or so games left to impress.

[rob_bridge]

I yearn for the days of hoofing it up to the big fella to flick on for the little man.

You are Warren Aspinall and I claim my £1.50

[RamboandBruno]

I always viewed it happening in three or four stages: a squad to keep us up, giving way to a squad to establish us, giving way to a squad capable of a consistent European push. I also thought the cost would roughly double for each one. At the moment, we're playing with elements of all three when really, there should be none from the first one left.

Our net spend the last few windows is small (comparatively). We should be ok to go on a proper spree this summer, so hopefully we get in some players significantly better than the ones we have now.

No more excuses. Walk the walk time.

Watkins missed one good chance today, one much more difficult chance and scored two, one albeit with a deflection. He had nothing to do with us losing that game today.
In terms of the general point about an overhaul of players, this comes up everytime we lose. Its highly unlikely we’ll have an overhaul, its more like we need 2 or 3 players of quality in key positions, one CB, one midfielder, one forward.

We have to give Luiz and Kamara more than half a season together, Morena has just signed, Beundia was pretty good today, the goalie we all know about.

The player i more have issue with is Bailey, completely ineffective today. Duran looked far more dangerous in his 10 minute cameo

[SoccerHQ]

It’s dead set. When there is the slightest chance of 3 points getting us into a good position. We fuck it up. I reckon I’ve seen 20 years of it.

That’s why at 2-1 I bet on Leicester winning. I might as well get some joy out of it.

I’d have been very happy to lose my stake. Extremely happy.

But it was not to be.

Same here. Disappointing, but easy money at 5/2 seeing the dangerous game we were playing.

Leicester must've been ridiculous odds to be leading at half time. That's a punt that sets the paupers from the princes.

And having a cheeky double on SHA winning at full time aswell.....

[hilts_coolerking]

In terms of the general point about an overhaul of players, this comes up everytime we lose. Its highly unlikely we’ll have an overhaul, its more like we need 2 or 3 players of quality in key positions, one CB, one midfielder, one forward.

I hate to single you out because lots of people say it but I don't think in recent seasons we've ever been 2 or 3 players away from having the squad we need.  In fact, I'd say that if we were to lose just one player - Martinez - we'd be in trouble.

[SoccerHQ]

Yep this idea that we’re going to fix all our issues in the summer is pie in the sky.

if we only get a couple in then there’s no chance. A total revamp is needed with quite a few out as well as in. We must improve defensively, out wide and upfront. If we do then there’s a chance we’ll improve and challenge for 6th/7th. It’ll cost and we’ll soon see how ambitious we really are.

Do that though and we'll get endless comments about it needing months to gel.

What we must do this summer is sign a good quality FB (will have to be RB given we might not be able to shift Digne and Moreno has just signed), enough so one of Konsa/Mings isn't a regular starter next season and also same for midfield and someone like McGinn. And of course someone who's reliable in final third given how wildly inconsistent Bailey and Watkins are even from half to half.

At least Buendia is getting there. He was good today and really should've had much more than one assist so he's getting there in Emery's system which is a big positive.

[RamboandBruno]

In terms of the general point about an overhaul of players, this comes up everytime we lose. Its highly unlikely we’ll have an overhaul, its more like we need 2 or 3 players of quality in key positions, one CB, one midfielder, one forward.

I hate to single you out because lots of people say it but I don't think in recent seasons we've ever been 2 or 3 players away from having the squad we need.  In fact, I'd say that if we were to lose just one player - Martinez - we'd be in trouble.

In depends what the context is. If we are on about reaching top 2 or 3, then yes, total overhaul needed. If we are on about top 6, i really dont think we need 6 or 7 new players, considering we are currently 4 points off 7th. The argument will be that Liverpool and Chelsea will get better, but then Brighton, Fulham, Brentford will probably be worse.
When people say total overhaul, i would ask to achieve what?? We quite clearly have the players, with this manager to be comfortably mid table, so again, i think 2 or 3 quality additions and a bit of luck, with this manager, gets us to the next level above mid table.