Sil Swinkels (now on loan at Bristol Rovers)

[Footy-Vill]

His own thread as he's been promoted to the first team.

Swinkels is  a dutch 19-year-old and a part of Villa’s FA Youth Cup winning side and can play as a centre-back or as a left-back. He is thought to be highly rated by those at Villa Park, and ITK Ashley Preece has said Emery has given him a chance to impress alongside the first team on the training ground.

[Bad English]

He won't baulk at that.

[Drummond]

Preece isn't ITK.

Let's hope Swinkels does the business though. Good luck to him.

[Smirker]

Swinkels Swinkels what a star
Better than van Dijk by far
Jumping in the air so high
Like a diamond in the sky
Swinkels Swinkels what a star
Better than van Dijk by far

[paul_e]

Preece isn't ITK.

Let's hope Swinkels does the business though. Good luck to him.

He probably is for stuff like this because it only takes him turning up at BMH once or twice a week.

[Footy-Vill]

Swinkels Swinkels what a star
Better than van Dijk by far
Jumping in the air so high
Like a diamond in the sky
Swinkels Swinkels what a star
Better than van Dijk by far

Wonderful!

Swinkles derives from  des winkels, literally meaning "from the corner"
So he'll be good on set plays and Archie Mcphee will be encouraged for such an asset.

[eamonn]

A timely thread given all the Sopranos chat. This dude was in a later series, right?

[paul_e]

My only concern about Swinkels when I've watch the U21s is that he looks a bit slow, Bogarde (who is quick) has covered for him a fair bit. I think I'd have preferred to see Feeney involved but I guess this is because with Digne and Carlos injured the left sided defensive positions are weaker than the right.

[Smithy]

My only concern about Swinkels when I've watch the U21s is that he looks a bit slow, Bogarde (who is quick) has covered for him a fair bit. I think I'd have preferred to see Feeney involved but I guess this is because with Digne and Carlos injured the left sided defensive positions are weaker than the right.

Feeney is still only 17, and though already quite tall, I expect he's got quite a lot of growing to do (even if only bulking up a bit). He was on the tour of Australia, so is/was in and around the first team training already.  He's clearly very well thought of, but I don't see him being called on for first-team action for a little while yet (unless there is some sort of injury emergency).  I'm surprised with Swinkels, he didn't stand out in the FA Youth Cup winning team, but if the club have seen enough in training to have him in and around the first-team squad, then great! 

I suspect it might just mean that with only 3 fit senior centre-backs, we need another youngster to join Seb Revan in ensuring there are enough defenders to make training competitive?

[paul_e]

My only concern about Swinkels when I've watch the U21s is that he looks a bit slow, Bogarde (who is quick) has covered for him a fair bit. I think I'd have preferred to see Feeney involved but I guess this is because with Digne and Carlos injured the left sided defensive positions are weaker than the right.

Feeney is still only 17, and though already quite tall, I expect he's got quite a lot of growing to do (even if only bulking up a bit). He was on the tour of Australia, so is/was in and around the first team training already.  He's clearly very well thought of, but I don't see him being called on for first-team action for a little while yet (unless there is some sort of injury emergency).  I'm surprised with Swinkels, he didn't stand out in the FA Youth Cup winning team, but if the club have seen enough in training to have him in and around the first-team squad, then great! 

I suspect it might just mean that with only 3 fit senior centre-backs, we need another youngster to join Seb Revan in ensuring there are enough defenders to make training competitive?

I know Feeney is younger but I think he looks a far better player and he was already making senior squads at Fleetwood before we signed him.

[OCD]

I've not been impressed with Swinkels when I've seen him. Bogarde's easily the better of the 2.

I saw something about Bogarde joining the first team squad too but I'm sure I read the other day that he had gone out on loan somewhere.

[N'ZMAV]

Bogarde is at Bristol Rovers, with Joey Barton.

[OCD]

Bristol Rovers, yeah that's the one. Didn't know Joey Barton was there though.

[pablo_picasso]

My only concern about Swinkels when I've watch the U21s is that he looks a bit slow, Bogarde (who is quick) has covered for him a fair bit. I think I'd have preferred to see Feeney involved but I guess this is because with Digne and Carlos injured the left sided defensive positions are weaker than the right.

I am not a fan of Swinkels. He works hard, but he lacks mobility & has an error in him... Feeney, Smith & Bogarde are all potentially superior footballers & defenders...

[pablo_picasso]

My only concern about Swinkels when I've watch the U21s is that he looks a bit slow, Bogarde (who is quick) has covered for him a fair bit. I think I'd have preferred to see Feeney involved but I guess this is because with Digne and Carlos injured the left sided defensive positions are weaker than the right.

Feeney is still only 17, and though already quite tall, I expect he's got quite a lot of growing to do (even if only bulking up a bit). He was on the tour of Australia, so is/was in and around the first team training already.  He's clearly very well thought of, but I don't see him being called on for first-team action for a little while yet (unless there is some sort of injury emergency).  I'm surprised with Swinkels, he didn't stand out in the FA Youth Cup winning team, but if the club have seen enough in training to have him in and around the first-team squad, then great! 

I suspect it might just mean that with only 3 fit senior centre-backs, we need another youngster to join Seb Revan in ensuring there are enough defenders to make training competitive?

Seb Revan is a LB. His brother Dominic is the CB. And we have already released him...