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Author Topic: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem  (Read 39888 times)

Offline john2710

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #105 on: January 08, 2023, 07:34:31 PM »
Treated it like a practice game & got mugged at the end. There's a lot of work to do to get this team / squad where we want it to be & it won't happen soon.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #106 on: January 08, 2023, 07:34:56 PM »
Of course the manager deserves stick, he picked a team that were not up to it.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #107 on: January 08, 2023, 07:35:11 PM »


The selection is not the issue. These weren't the kids or the bomb squad, every single one of those players are in contention every week for a place. To a man, played for their countries, or in Europe, all played in one of the big European leagues for practically all their careers. One week of each of their wages would pay for God knows how much of their opposite number's salary.

It's a team, in short, that would have expected themselves to compete in a Premier League game.

Does he pick that team with that amount of unenforced changes for a key PL game?  No.

So the selection is an issue.  It's not the only one, granted. But it sets the tone and tells the players the result is in the bag no matter what.

Literally every single manager in the world would have rung the changes. Every single one. And every one of the players who came in is a senior member of the squad, one who should be able to contribute to wins in the Premier League. You can say it set the tone, but honestly I can't imagine letting the players off the hook that easy. Every manager would've done the same, and they should have had enough to beat a team in League 2. I'm sorry, it's that simple.
Our under 21s should have been amble to handle that.  The guy who got sent off was playing for a World Cup hopeful last month. 

The selection shouldn’t matter.  All these players should be good enough to beat these

I can on think of the Bradford game that was worse - purely cos it was over 2 legs

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #108 on: January 08, 2023, 07:35:22 PM »


The selection is not the issue. These weren't the kids or the bomb squad, every single one of those players are in contention every week for a place. To a man, played for their countries, or in Europe, all played in one of the big European leagues for practically all their careers. One week of each of their wages would pay for God knows how much of their opposite number's salary.

It's a team, in short, that would have expected themselves to compete in a Premier League game.

Does he pick that team with that amount of unenforced changes for a key PL game?  No.

So the selection is an issue.  It's not the only one, granted. But it sets the tone and tells the players the result is in the bag no matter what.

Literally every single manager in the world would have rung the changes. Every single one. And every one of the players who came in is a senior member of the squad, one who should be able to contribute to wins in the Premier League. You can say it set the tone, but honestly I can't imagine letting the players off the hook that easy. Every manager would've done the same, and they should have had enough to beat a team in League 2. I'm sorry, it's that simple.

Gerrard didn’t
and we won against lowly Bolton

He won’t play that side on Friday because he wants to win that game more than the FA Cup. It’s as simple as that.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #109 on: January 08, 2023, 07:37:13 PM »
He deserves stick for them not being up *for* it. But they should be up *to* it if they'd been coaching themselves for 2 months. Sorry, the idea the selection was the problem is an absurd crutch. The problem was the disastrous, horrible, half-arsed, shit-brained, lily-livered candy-ass spiced pumpkin horseshit performance from the players.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #110 on: January 08, 2023, 07:37:25 PM »
Looks like Cash will be out for a while not that he was much use…never actually went forward, perhaps Bailey was in his way . Any involvement of Bailey was minimal and usually useless…mercurial my arse…rather have seen what KY could have offered. Coutinho is bust.. see Barkley.
Augustinsson was ok….nothing special. Buendia struggled to get up to pace and gave the ball away far too often. Watkins couldn’t hold the ball up…Inngs too slow. Olsen spoiled a reasonable start with that 120 seconds of uselessness. Luiz thought it was a stroll.Dendonker is the sort of player you never notice until he fxxks up and boy does he. Chambers is not upto it when compared with Konza  and Mings and that speaks volumes.

Only Sansom seemed interested and imagine he’s off as soon as he can book his seat on Ryanair.


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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #111 on: January 08, 2023, 07:37:36 PM »
Villa spent most of the game on their 18 yard line going left going right then going backwards. We should of gone for the jugular and killed the game off as quickly as possible. 1-0 they're still in the game.
I thought Samson was the only player to come out of that with any praise.
We started to crumble after the multiple substitutions.
Ings always looks like a passenger when he starts.
Couthino and Luiz flicking it about all day but not hurting the opposition.
Leon Bailley will be crying himself to sleep again.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #112 on: January 08, 2023, 07:38:00 PM »
The manager needs to learn about the squad. He shouldn’t be afraid to rotate. The players he brought in today included the starting keeper and LB for Sweden, internationals for Brazil, Poland. It should have been more than enough to beat a L2 side. These players let the club down. I’m not fully excusing the manager but the vast majority of the blame goes to players who either took this too lightly or simply didn’t do their jobs. The performance of almost all of them was simply inexcusable

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #113 on: January 08, 2023, 07:38:46 PM »
We didn’t work hard enough to get the second goal so we were never comfortable. 

What a wasted opportunity for this club

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #114 on: January 08, 2023, 07:38:59 PM »
Today was worse than Bradford. This was the team that lost to Bradford:


S Given
M Lowton
C Clark (c)
N Baker
J Bennett
G Agbonlahor
F Delph 
B Bannan
C N'Zogbia 
A Weimann
C Benteke

A right load of shite.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #115 on: January 08, 2023, 07:40:15 PM »
That must go down as the worst giant killing embarrassment in my Villa supporting life. Pathetic.

It's still Doncaster. We were shit today but still dominated, Doncaster we were outclassed everywhere.

Yes. Doncaster was more embarrassing although not sure what division they were in at the time

I'm sure Bradford were in a worse position than Stevenage...and that was over two legs!

Doncaster was away, this was at Villa Park. As Villa Lew said, today was humiliating.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #116 on: January 08, 2023, 07:40:25 PM »
The manager needs to learn about the squad. He shouldn’t be afraid to rotate. The players he brought in today included the starting keeper and LB for Sweden, internationals for Brazil, Poland. It should have been more than enough to beat a L2 side. These players let the club down. I’m not fully excusing the manager but the vast majority of the blame goes to players who either took this too lightly or simply didn’t do their jobs. The performance of almost all of them was simply inexcusable

When has playing a weakened team ever gone well for us? The manager took it too lightly, just like he did with the League Cup against Man U, and now we're out of both of them.

Offline CT Villan

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #117 on: January 08, 2023, 07:40:35 PM »
Complete and utter garbage.

Bailey has been awarded Stevenage MOTM.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #118 on: January 08, 2023, 07:40:59 PM »
I’ll see your Doncaster and raise you a Peterborough

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #119 on: January 08, 2023, 07:41:20 PM »
Complete and utter garbage.

Bailey has been awarded Stevenage MOTM.

Ollie Watkins also gets an assist.

 


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