Aston Villa 1 Jorge Mendes clients 1 post match thread.

[LeeB]

In an ideal world Leeds as well, but Bournemouth and Southampton are going to take two spots. Mind, they're no loss either.

[PeterWithe]

Our two CH did see an awful lot of the ball, because Wolves worked very hard to block off any passing options into the midfielders. That looked to be the plan and they did it very well first half.

[pauliewalnuts]

Wolves are at no risk of going down. They've got a top quality manager now. If they back him in January, they'll climb the table pretty quickly.

[PeterWithe]

They looked to be a mobile striker away from being a very decent team.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Would much, much, much rather see Everton and West Ham get sucked into the bottom 3 than this lot.

I watched a Toffee TV discussion last night on their current collapse, it reminded so much of our relegation season, if not worse. Apparently Lampard going or staying won't change a think as their players are absolute twats who don't give a shit. They have absent owners who won't put any money into the club, not that they have a clue about the club or the fans as they're never at games and there's zero dialogue between Lampard, the club owners or the fans.

Highlight was the claim that during the recent minutes silence for Pele, Dominic Calvert-Lewin thought it was for Viviane Westwood.

[Toronto Villa]

Wolves are at no risk of going down. They've got a top quality manager now. If they back him in January, they'll climb the table pretty quickly.

They’ve also got some really good players. The types of technical players that will flourish under a manager who knows what he’s doing. In a way, as much as we have underachieved with our players they have every bit as much of not more so. And I would argue that we have actually overachieved under Emery because it is clear that in a few areas we need strengthening with the types of players he needs. The Wolves manager probably has more players suited to his style than we have to the one our manager wants at the club.

[john e]

Would much, much, much rather see Everton and West Ham get sucked into the bottom 3 than this lot.

I watched a Toffee TV discussion last night on their current collapse, it reminded so much of our relegation season, if not worse. Apparently Lampard going or staying won't change a think as their players are absolute twats who don't give a shit. They have absent owners who won't put any money into the club, not that they have a clue about the club or the fans as they're never at games and there's zero dialogue between Lampard, the club owners or the fans.

Highlight was the claim that during the recent minutes silence for Pele, Dominic Calvert-Lewin thought it was for Viviane Westwood.

Saw the same, thought the same

[Rudy Can't Fail]

They looked to be a mobile striker away from being a very decent team.

Just like the Portuguese national team since 1966 and Eusebio. Co-incidence?

[Toronto Villa]

Would much, much, much rather see Everton and West Ham get sucked into the bottom 3 than this lot.

I watched a Toffee TV discussion last night on their current collapse, it reminded so much of our relegation season, if not worse. Apparently Lampard going or staying won't change a think as their players are absolute twats who don't give a shit. They have absent owners who won't put any money into the club, not that they have a clue about the club or the fans as they're never at games and there's zero dialogue between Lampard, the club owners or the fans.

Highlight was the claim that during the recent minutes silence for Pele, Dominic Calvert-Lewin thought it was for Viviane Westwood.

Saw the same, thought the same

They are in a lot of trouble. Financially they have spent an absolute fortune and are seemingly even worse off now. And if you have a manager not experienced at coaching and managing players at the level combined with handling the attitudes of some as things get worse it only ends one way as we know too well. 

[Percy McCarthy]

Wolves are a decent side and now they have a good manager I don’t think they will be in any danger of going down

first half was awful as bad as anything churned out by previous managers
Second half a lot better but still not great to be honest, of the two goalkeepers Martinez had the most to do and I was in the end quite pleased not to lose even though we might have nicked it at the end

We are going to have to sort out the progression from defence to attack
At the moment, it’s too slow and relies on Mings and Konsa who are the two least technical players we have in team, Mings is fine defensively but he is not the ball player he thinks he is and sees far too much of the ball as if he’s a playmaker
Konsa just needs to be replaced with someone far better

Mings ball over the top was superb, but I’m more talking about playing out from the back it’s dreadfully slow, and they really haven’t got a clue what to do with it to be honest
There’s no wonder Emery is allegedly looking to bring in a centre half

A bit disappointed with the performance overall because it showed we aren’t quite as far forward as maybe we were thinking and I for one was probably getting a bit carried away,

Still very positive for the future though, we have a manager that seems to know what he wants and what he’s doing
I think there may be a few changes in the next two or three windows and we will be a totally different team from the one we saw last night

Also, just to wind up Risso and Percy I thought we missed McGinn’s energy and busyness last night in midfield, especially the first half
He is a very underrated player on this forum and it showed last night

Funnily enough I thought we missed him too. More to do with Cash not understanding his position though. He stayed too wide leaving us outnumbered whereas McGinn knows when to become part of a three in centre-mid.

[Olof's Beard]

Emery will have learnt a lot from the last three games. He was pretty pragmatic in his approach to games before the World Cup (especially Brighton) because he didn't have time to work with the players. Now he's implementing his own style of play.

He's an elite manager who wants to play an elite brand of football. High line to squeeze the pitch, build from the back and keep possession when we have the ball, press from the front to turn over the ball quickly when we don't and try and expose teams before they can reset (or 'in the transition' in modern football lingo innit).

To play entirely that way, we'll need recovery pace in defence and midfield and lots of efficiency, ruthlessness and good decision making up front to take advantage of those transitions. We also need every player from goalkeeper to centre forward to be comfortable on the ball. I'm not sure we have enough of any of those attributes. We have some players who have the right skills but are frustratingly inconsistent.

Emery will make this more than the sum of his parts and his in-game changes are generally ace. The subs looked a bit odd yesterday but they worked a treat and I really like Dendoncker. But the players were slow to start and some of those who played well at the weekend, were poor last night. Consistency is key and we know the likes of Buendia, Bailey, McGinn, even Luiz don't have it.

Pretty much the whole league is prone to inconsistency though - even Liverpool, Chelsea and Spuds this season. We're not alone. It's frustrating because we can't seem to build any upward momentum but I'm feeling confident that the manager will sort that out over time. I didn't come away from B6 too disheartened, Wolves are proof that there's no utterly shite teams in this league and in the end it was an ok point to earn and a fair result.

[Toronto Villa]

I think we do have upward momentum. With a team that lost 5 straight before he arrived in the next 5 we have taken 10 points. Over a season that’s 76 points. I get things don’t work that way but it’s a hell of a lot better than the shit we have been served up by the end of Dean Smith and almost all of Lego man’s tenure

[Louzie0]

Emery will have learnt a lot from the last three games…

He's an elite manager who wants to play an elite brand of football…

To play entirely that way, we'll need recovery pace in defence and midfield and lots of efficiency, ruthlessness, fear, surprise and an almost fanatical devotion to Unai Emery.

Thought this reminded me of something!

[Olof's Beard]

I think we do have upward momentum. With a team that lost 5 straight before he arrived in the next 5 we have taken 10 points. Over a season that’s 76 points. I get things don’t work that way but it’s a hell of a lot better than the shit we have been served up by the end of Dean Smith and almost all of Lego man’s tenure

Yes that's fair, I suppose it's more we often fail to back up a really good win with another one in a game we might 'expect' to win. Although given how closely match most of the teams are, we can't really expect to win many. It's very much down to form on the day and the tactical battle between the managers (most of whom have good pedigree now) too.

I'm intrigued to see how we develop and the positions that Emery targets for improvements first. I suspect Bailey and Buendia would be happy to the transfer window closed now.

[Olof's Beard]

Emery will have learnt a lot from the last three games…

He's an elite manager who wants to play an elite brand of football…

To play entirely that way, we'll need recovery pace in defence and midfield and lots of efficiency, ruthlessness, fear, surprise and an almost fanatical devotion to Unai Emery.

Thought this reminded me of something!

You've lost me but I like it!