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Author Topic: Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 3 Post Match Thread.  (Read 16757 times)

Offline AGRIPPA

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Re: Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 3 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #30 on: December 26, 2022, 08:56:26 PM »
Still better than 90% of the shit served up under Gerrard….

Offline rougegorge

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Re: Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 3 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #31 on: December 26, 2022, 09:00:04 PM »
I can only agree with most of the comments above.

We were good at times but bad at other times.
I thought Kamara and Digne were our best today.
 
Buendía's judgment and passing was awry, the central defenders were at sixes and sevens, although admittedly not helped by a bizarre high line against pacy forwards.

Bailey was reverting back to his usual level of impact. He has as much pace as Núñez, who was admittedly wasteful himself at times, but used it to little effect. I was surprised Emery didn't try Bailey down the left at some stage although the way he was playing it probably wouldn't have mattered.


Offline Villatillidie25

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Re: Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 3 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #32 on: December 26, 2022, 09:00:32 PM »
Despite creating several chances, I thought we were shocking on the pitch and sideline today. Bar about a 10 min spell after we scored we never had any sense of control. Emery is chiefly to blame for me with his kamikaze tactics and failure to proactively change things at 1-2 Deano style. First game back so players were never likely to be at full pelt and tactically we should have adjusted for that.

Tactics aside, Konsa worries me now, I always thought he would come back to form but that seems increasingly unlikely. He looks finished to be honest, physically weak, cowardly on the ball and one paced. Mings time under Emery will be short lived too. There weren't many positives bar the much maligned McGinn who had his best game in a long time. Watkins scored the hardest chance of his three, sums him up. Bailey and Buendia particularly were woeful.

Olsen 5, Young 5, Konsa 2, Mings 2, Digne 4, Luiz 6, Kamara 7, McGinn 8, Buendia 3, Bailey 4, Watkins 6. Emery 3.

Pretty brutal ratings. If today gets those ratings I hate to think what some of our other matches have scored. We were much better than these scores imo.

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Re: Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 3 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #33 on: December 26, 2022, 09:05:22 PM »
We were on top for most of the second half, so much so that Klopp strengthened at the back and slowed the game down. So much to like about Watkins but he will never be a natural finisher, agree with most that we need three or four top players bought in, lets hope.

Offline Clive W

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Re: Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 3 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #34 on: December 26, 2022, 09:10:28 PM »
Physically and mentally too weak
No sense of leadership on the pitch and we noticeably gave up when the 3rd went in

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Re: Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 3 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #35 on: December 26, 2022, 09:13:59 PM »
Watching Konsa chase whichever it was of Salah or Nunez (probably both) was like watching Gareth Barry chase Ozil in that match against Germany in 2010.

Offline steamer

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Re: Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 3 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2022, 09:16:30 PM »
Both Pundits Owen and Ex Arse guy who I don not like were trying to be polite at half time saying, Watkins tries hard, they both love him but at best he is an average finisher. Not good enough.
Go along with Bronti scorecard except for Luiz who I would give 4 and Watkins who only gets a mention because of his goal.
Commentator said, best cross of the game and Watkins could not miss
Townsend also right, team full of players who deserve to finish 12th
Money to be spent wisely on players that can make a difference if we expect any different outcomes

Offline coreyfeldman

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Re: Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 3 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2022, 09:16:45 PM »
Yeah I think the lack of leadership on the pitch is a real problem. The spine of the team with Carlos and Martinez is much stronger, but we need at least one attacker with composure and belief

Offline Clive W

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Re: Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 3 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2022, 09:20:34 PM »
Watching Konsa chase whichever it was of Salah or Nunez (probably both) was like watching Gareth Barry chase Ozil in that match against Germany in 2010.

That was the problem throughout the whole match

If you are playing a high line then you need pacy defenders to be able to turn and recover when the ball gets played through the middle

None of our back four today are speed merchants and we got caught out time and again

Thankfully their finishing was almost as bad as ours

Offline Skerra

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Re: Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 3 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2022, 09:23:09 PM »
Just so you know, talksport made Watkins the motm. Not sure what they were watching!

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Re: Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 3 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2022, 09:24:50 PM »
I feel we missed the pace and power of Ramsey. Buendia struggled.

2nd half was good but the heads dropped when the 3rd went in with 10+ to go. We don't yet have a top team mentality, I'm confident Emery changes that.



Agree about Ramsey, I said it during the game. His running would have made a difference. I didn't think we were that bad overall  and defiantly not 'shocking' as Bronte put it, that's is just his usual  nonsense.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2022, 09:26:58 PM by Clampy »

Offline RamboandBruno

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Re: Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 3 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2022, 09:27:39 PM »
Despite creating several chances, I thought we were shocking on the pitch and sideline today. Bar about a 10 min spell after we scored we never had any sense of control. Emery is chiefly to blame for me with his kamikaze tactics and failure to proactively change things at 1-2 Deano style. First game back so players were never likely to be at full pelt and tactically we should have adjusted for that.

Tactics aside, Konsa worries me now, I always thought he would come back to form but that seems increasingly unlikely. He looks finished to be honest, physically weak, cowardly on the ball and one paced. Mings time under Emery will be short lived too. There weren't many positives bar the much maligned McGinn who had his best game in a long time. Watkins scored the hardest chance of his three, sums him up. Bailey and Buendia particularly were woeful.

Olsen 5, Young 5, Konsa 2, Mings 2, Digne 4, Luiz 6, Kamara 7, McGinn 8, Buendia 3, Bailey 4, Watkins 6. Emery 3.

Pretty brutal ratings. If today gets those ratings I hate to think what some of our other matches have scored. We were much better than these scores imo.

Agree, ridiculously reactionary comments and scores. We let them have too much time on the ball from the back 1st half and Trent was pulling the strings a bit. Far better 2nd half, and we deserved a draw i thought. Don’t Like scapegoats, but Olsen rushing out like a nutter was mad, if he stays in his line, I don’t think they score.
I also dont know what subs Emery could of made really. Watkins missed chances, but was holding it up and winning flick ons, not Ings game, not sure anyone else would of made a difference tonight.
Im going to Spurs, i can see us winning.

Offline Grande Pablo

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Re: Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 3 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2022, 09:31:50 PM »
A real mixed bag.  Liverpool wobble when put under pressure, but one ball over our pretty pedestrian backline meant we were always in trouble.

Kamara, McGinn & Watkins excellent.  Luiz & Buendia not so.  Bailey could be a game changer if he didn't tie his shoelaces togehter.

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Re: Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 3 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #43 on: December 26, 2022, 09:32:46 PM »
I think he does it for effect now and its getting boring. We were not shocking at all.

Offline django

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Re: Aston Villa 1 Liverpool 3 Post Match Thread.
« Reply #44 on: December 26, 2022, 09:33:51 PM »
I thought we did alright, certainly seen us play far worse. There was some inexplicable miscuing from Bailey in particular and Olsen gives the defence a panicky feel from kick off. But the result was in the balance till the last ten minutes against a team and squad who are much stronger than us.

Play to that level against most sides in the league and we’ll be fine.

 


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