Question for more mature Villans re: 1982

[eamonn]

Good point. Ugh, does this mean one must feel sympathy for them?

[Sunny Villa]

The reason was the Villa allocation was officially hugely reduced due to the Anderlecht issues .

Club trips only and availability to others was a dusting need to no basis .

I was to the left of the Villa area , my mates or some of them were smack bang in the middle of the Munich fans behind the goal ...

Most of the side stand facing the cameras was a mixture of "rogue Villa " and locals and other Europeans for the most part supporting the Villa

Loads of Gladbach loons a d others .

Despite all the limitations it was a decent turnout  and the assigned Villa sections were rammed .

[Pat McMahon]

I remember the draconian messaging re tickets only being available to fans who signed up for the official trip. Once in Rotterdam I saw loads of people who had bought tickets unofficially but many would have been put off I reckon.

I met quite a few Dutch who were very anti German including a couple of Feyenoord fans in our section but never heard of the Gladbach fans. What was that about?

[astonvilla82]

The reason was the Villa allocation was officially hugely reduced due to the Anderlecht issues .

Club trips only and availability to others was a dusting need to no basis .

I was to the left of the Villa area , my mates or some of them were smack bang in the middle of the Munich fans behind the goal ...

Most of the side stand facing the cameras was a mixture of "rogue Villa " and locals and other Europeans for the most part supporting the Villa

Loads of Gladbach loons a d others .

Despite all the limitations it was a decent turnout  and the assigned Villa sections were rammed .

That where the Bayern Munich fans throw a massive firecracker at them?

[trinityoap]

I've said on here before somewhere, at the bar we were in, so far as the Dutch were concerned the war had been over for about two weeks. Their pure hatred of the Germans was visceral.

[Sunny Villa]

When there was that altercation with some Bayern fans that decided to come for a mooch at the Villa fans outside the Irish pub on all down the central reservation .....there were plenty of Dutch fans that went over to say "hello" so they Germans fired thier starting pistol and run off .

I was to the right upstairs from the Villa fans and I can confirm the Gladbach fans there were about 8 of them behind us ...and they celebrated as wildly as we did .


Tickets were a devil to get hold of despite going the Berlin ,Anderlecht prior ...

Ours were sourced by an unknown person on the Harwich to Hoek of Holland ferry .

We ended up with spares due to the unfortunate tout who was relieved of his stash by some wedgeheaded scallywags leading to tickets flying into the air outside the Villa end ...and we found a few guilders also .

[Charlie8182]

Strange to think now that other than forced substitution of Spink for Rimmer early on, we didn’t make another change for the rest of the game, Bayern actually made 2.

Also I’ve seen the game hundreds of times in the past 41 years, and I may be wrong but I don’t think either side had a corner in the entire match?

[Exeter 77]

Villa definitely had a two or three corners in the first half.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I've said on here before somewhere, at the bar we were in, so far as the Dutch were concerned the war had been over for about two weeks. Their pure hatred of the Germans was visceral.

Same here, I remember this friendly Dutch fella probably in his late 40s/50s, talking football, wishing us luck, then left us by saying 'the only good German is a dead German'.

[Exeter 77]

I'm having my annual watch of the game. What always stands out was how well Gary Williams played that night despite being the only player booked.   

Watching the game through modern eyes two other thing seems very apparent. A lot of the fouls would now be bookings and the both sides turn the ball over far more than you would see in a game today.

[dcdavecollett]

A remarkably under-rated player, Gary Williams. Full-back on either side, centre-back or defensive midfield, you'd always get a steady performance from him -a manager's dream.

[Dick Edwards]

A remarkably under-rated player, Gary Williams. Full-back on either side, centre-back or defensive midfield, you'd always get a steady performance from him -a manager's dream.

Most of that team were underrated, confirmed by the lack of international recognition for pretty much all of them. It's incomprehensible that all of our English players combined, including greats like Spink, Mortimer, Cowans, Shaw, Morley and Withe couldn't muster 30 England caps between them!

[Exeter 77]

A remarkably under-rated player, Gary Williams. Full-back on either side, centre-back or defensive midfield, you'd always get a steady performance from him -a manager's dream.

Most of that team were underrated, confirmed by the lack of international recognition for pretty much all of them. It's incomprehensible that all of our English players combined, including greats like Spink, Mortimer, Cowans, Shaw, Morley and Withe couldn't muster 30 England caps between them!

And some of the ones Sid got were while he was with Bari. I never understood Bobby Robson's thinking when he recalled him prior to the 1986 World Cup. Picked him for the friendly against Egypt in which he played well and scored and then he wasn't in the final 22 despite there being an injury doubt about Brian Robson (which recurred against Morocco) the general inexperience of the rest except Wilkins (who proceeded to get himself sent off in that games against Morocco)

[WarszaVillan]

A remarkably under-rated player, Gary Williams. Full-back on either side, centre-back or defensive midfield, you'd always get a steady performance from him -a manager's dream.

Most of that team were underrated, confirmed by the lack of international recognition for pretty much all of them. It's incomprehensible that all of our English players combined, including greats like Spink, Mortimer, Cowans, Shaw, Morley and Withe couldn't muster 30 England caps between them!

And how out of our three Scottish players only Evans was capped (4 times) (Bremner got his one cap when he was at Hibs).

[dave.woodhall]

Part of it was down to the mysterious injuries that kept our players out of under-21 games.