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Offline Risso

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Re: Leicester City vs Aston Villa off
« Reply #375 on: September 10, 2022, 01:19:48 PM »
Reports casual staff in the dripping-with-wealth Premier League may not be paid as a result of the cancellations. That's really in the spirit of the thing. What she would've wanted, I'm sure.

Of course they won't be. There's no guarantee that the same agency staff turn up on any given week, so who would they pay even if they wanted to? That's thousnds of the very lowest paid people in society not getting a day's pay today, because of some ridiculous notion of respect.

If Man City can work out how to do it then i'm pretty sure the other 19 could as well. If they wanted to.

And what about your average League 1 and 2 side whose owners aren't worth many billions of pounds and who struggle to get by on a weekly basis as it is?

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Re: Leicester City vs Aston Villa off
« Reply #376 on: September 10, 2022, 01:21:58 PM »
Reports casual staff in the dripping-with-wealth Premier League may not be paid as a result of the cancellations. That's really in the spirit of the thing. What she would've wanted, I'm sure.

Of course they won't be. There's no guarantee that the same agency staff turn up on any given week, so who would they pay even if they wanted to? That's thousnds of the very lowest paid people in society not getting a day's pay today, because of some ridiculous notion of respect.

If Man City can work out how to do it then i'm pretty sure the other 19 could as well. If they wanted to.

And what about your average League 1 and 2 side whose owners aren't worth many billions of pounds and who struggle to get by on a weekly basis as it is?

Fortunately the Premier League is its own entity and its members are fully capable of doing this.

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Re: Leicester City vs Aston Villa off
« Reply #377 on: September 10, 2022, 01:22:50 PM »
The point Monty made was about the Premier League. And your reply was also about the Premier League and how would they know who to pay.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2022, 01:25:45 PM by PeterWithesShin »

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Re: Leicester City vs Aston Villa off
« Reply #378 on: September 10, 2022, 01:35:31 PM »
The point Monty made was about the Premier League. And your reply was also about the Premier League and how would they know who to pay.

The point stands. All they can do is pay the agency the usual weekly amount, and hope that they pass it on.

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Re: Leicester City vs Aston Villa off
« Reply #379 on: September 10, 2022, 01:45:33 PM »
Which is something the other PL clubs could do if they wanted to. Which was my original point.

The people who would have been working in PL stadiums this weekend would already have been chosen by the agencies/clubs considering the games were only cancelled yesterday. So it would be pretty simple to pay them. If the clubs wanted to.

Offline MorrisNielson

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Re: Leicester City vs Aston Villa off
« Reply #380 on: September 10, 2022, 01:50:03 PM »
Just a bit of context, games were cancelled in 1901 and 1952 for the death off the monarch (Edward had the good grace to pop off post season 1910).

They weren't cancelled in 1952. We beat Portsmouth 2-0.
Apologies, got the dates mixed up. The gap in fixtures in early February must be for the FA Cup instead

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Re: Leicester City vs Aston Villa off
« Reply #381 on: September 10, 2022, 01:58:03 PM »
Which is something the other PL clubs could do if they wanted to. Which was my original point.

The people who would have been working in PL stadiums this weekend would already have been chosen by the agencies/clubs considering the games were only cancelled yesterday. So it would be pretty simple to pay them. If the clubs wanted to.

But most clubs aren't going to do it, are they? So people ARE going to miss out on pay, in the Premier League and at every pretty much every other football club in the country. Why should people have to rely on whether or not a club is feeling generous or not, just because of some completely ridiculous notion of "it's what she would have wanted." Then there are all the other costs, like travel and lost revenue for hospitality etc. Also, I bet virtually every single Premier League club would have chosen to play this weekend, so why should they have to voluntarily donate money to cover staff wages, when it was the Premier League's decision?

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Re: Leicester City vs Aston Villa off
« Reply #382 on: September 10, 2022, 02:24:17 PM »
Well we know most clubs aren't going to do it, a bunch of them have already said they aren't. Point is, they very easily could if they wanted to.

The rest of it has zero to do with what Monty said. I don't think the games should have been cancelled, but that's got nothing to do with what we originally replied to, same as League 1 and 2 clubs have nothing to do with it. The debate was, PL clubs choosing not to pay people. Them having to make that decision is a different debate.

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Re: Leicester City vs Aston Villa off
« Reply #383 on: September 10, 2022, 02:31:51 PM »
Well we know most clubs aren't going to do it, a bunch of them have already said they aren't. Point is, they very easily could if they wanted to.

The rest of it has zero to do with what Monty said. I don't think the games should have been cancelled, but that's got nothing to do with what we originally replied to, same as League 1 and 2 clubs have nothing to do with it. The debate was, PL clubs choosing not to pay people. Them having to make that decision is a different debate.

Well the point I made is that thousands and thousands of people aren't going to be paid, and that point remains a cold, hard fact. There will also be no way of Man City knowing who the agency ends up paying.

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Re: Leicester City vs Aston Villa off
« Reply #384 on: September 10, 2022, 02:33:06 PM »
It isn’t quite that easy.

The staff are casual labour for a third party company.

You’d be relying on that third party passing on that pay, to people to whom legally they owe no right to compensation like this

Then there’s all the other companies and traders who will have bought food supplies for today which is not going to be earning them a penny

It is a ridiculous exercise in pointless forelock tugging.

Especially when you look around and pretty much every other part of life, sporting or not, is carrying on as normal.

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Re: Leicester City vs Aston Villa off
« Reply #385 on: September 10, 2022, 02:36:37 PM »
Well we know most clubs aren't going to do it, a bunch of them have already said they aren't. Point is, they very easily could if they wanted to.

The rest of it has zero to do with what Monty said. I don't think the games should have been cancelled, but that's got nothing to do with what we originally replied to, same as League 1 and 2 clubs have nothing to do with it. The debate was, PL clubs choosing not to pay people. Them having to make that decision is a different debate.

Well the point I made is that thousands and thousands of people aren't going to be paid, and that point remains a cold, hard fact. There will also be no way of Man City knowing who the agency ends up paying.

Ok Rafa.

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Re: Leicester City vs Aston Villa off
« Reply #386 on: September 10, 2022, 02:38:58 PM »
So cricket and egg chasing is ok but not football? I don't get it and it really pisses me off. It would have been a great chance for thousands of fans to pay their respects but no only cricket and egg chasing are able to do that.

I know it's all been said before but I just need to vent.

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Re: Leicester City vs Aston Villa off
« Reply #387 on: September 10, 2022, 02:40:43 PM »
I wonder when this round of fixtures will be rescheduled. There can't be many free midweeks to utilise in this cramped season when there's no European/domestic cup/international games.

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Re: Leicester City vs Aston Villa off
« Reply #388 on: September 10, 2022, 02:47:30 PM »
I don't suppose it would be difficult for say Leicester and Villa to reschedule their game, the whole thing becomes more problematic though if an entire round of games has to be scheduled so as to enable all the 10 postponed games to take place over the course of a 2/3/4 day period.

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Re: Leicester City vs Aston Villa off
« Reply #389 on: September 10, 2022, 02:49:50 PM »
Well we know we'll be free to play a rearranged fixture on FA Cup 4th round day.

 


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