Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post Debacle Thread

[Toronto Villa]

I would say that things could have been very different if we score rather than nearly break the crossbar. But at the same time, that doesn't alter how poor we were for most of the game.

We are relying on moments of magic versus playing well for the majority of the game. Even if we had scored in all likelihood they would have scored again because we were overall really very poor.

[Paul.S]

Very true.

[brontebilly]

Konsa 5 - dreadful first half but thought he was much better in the second, saving our bacon on a few occasions.

Does their third goal not count? What is Konsa doing by the throw-in line?

Dragged over helping Cash out. Cross from a deep position, 1v1 in box and Mings should be dealing with it. Martinez can't be watching a striker volley in from the six yard box line either in that situation. Konsa was dreadful for the first, letting Zaha have a free shot with his left. Cash also rubbish for that one.

[Somniloquism]

Throwing them under the bus again, that's not good.

How about taking some responsibility yourself?

Unbelievable.

This man hasn’t a clue how to manage. The fans are wavering, would you like the dressing to do the same, Steven?

This seemed quite obvious when you saw how Coutinho starred in the first matches after being signed without being "coached" by our staff to how he is now.

[rob_bridge]

I would say that things could have been very different if we score rather than nearly break the crossbar. But at the same time, that doesn't alter how poor we were for most of the game.

We are relying on moments of magic versus playing well for the majority of the game. Even if we had scored in all likelihood they would have scored again because we were overall really very poor.

That was his whole career which is why he was dire for England. Fine when you have 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' set up for you with Alonso and Torres. Less fine when the equivalents are Ramsey and Ollie

He’s gotta go.

[Clampy]

Game 'was in the balance' according to Sherwood 2.0

At 1-1, it was.

[Footy-Vill]

Game 'was in the balance' according to Sherwood 2.0

At 1-1, it was.

If Bailey had scored(he hit the bar) Villa would have been 2-1 up.
It was also not a penalty.
These are the margins.
However, the overall performance was disappointing.
This season, Villa have appeared to be struggling to find the right team balance away from home.

I was hoping we would build on last week's victory.
It's inconsistent, but it's still early in the season. It seems we could continue to have a mixed season as we strive to get where we want to go.

Though such a defeat again today can help Gerrard learn and improve what went wrong within the team and tactics.

[jwarry]

The bizarre thing is that our last game against citeh we looked pretty good but now I can’t see anything that remotely resembles our food if last season. And worse Gerrards post-match comments make me think it was a fluke

[RamboandBruno]

Didnt see it but listened to whole game on talkshite 2. They sounded the better team, so f we go 2-1 up from Bailey who knows, but they sounded like they were slicing through our midfield.
Perry Groves co-commentating, said their offside goal was offside, bit their penalty was in no way a penalty, later on he also said we were dire and the main difference in the sides was Palace looked well coached and that the Villa players didn’t look like they had a clue what they were supposed to be doing. Pretty damming unfortunately.

Could of really done with a point at least with the three  league games coming up, unless something radically clicks into gear starting to look a bit iffy. Fooking all a load of shite.

[Clampy]

I'm not saying we played great (and in the second half we definatley didn't)  but var and the ref spent a fucking age looking at a handball and they still got it wrong.  Some calming done and perspective is needed. (Blimey. I sound like footy).

[Paul.S]

My frustration is that he hasn’t yet worked out that we can’t play with a midfield 3 with what we’ve got now. Kamara apart, they’ve been regularly overrun for a few seasons now and West Ham will do exactly the same next week. We cannot compete physically so let’s hope we get another in to sort it.

[PhilVill]

Lets face it, other than the odd moment of joy, its been pretty toss for 12 years now. What a bloody shit show.

[PaulWinch again]

My frustration is that he hasn’t yet worked out that we can’t play with a midfield 3 with what we’ve got now. Kamara apart, they’ve been regularly overrun for a few seasons now and West Ham will do exactly the same next week. We cannot compete physically so let’s hope we get another in to sort it.

I think it’s a combination of a couple of things. The personnel in midfield aren’t doing what they need to do if you’re setting up the team like this. At the same time the full backs are playing ultra attacking and the wide forwards aren’t tracking back (consistently). So it just means teams end up with huge pockets of space to attack.

[Paul.S]

These owners have been fantastic for our club. I really do hope they are ruthless when it comes to underperforming. 

[villadelph]

I'm not saying we played great (and in the second half we definatley didn't)  but var and the ref spent a fucking age looking at a handball and they still got it wrong.  Some calming done and perspective is needed. (Blimey. I sound like footy).

At the same token.. their goal ruled off was incredibly close.

Let’s be honest, the could’ve hit 5 or 6 if secret double agent Ayew didn’t spare us the blushes.

We were terrible and they were ready to take advantage of it.