Crystal Palace v Aston Villa Post Debacle Thread

[TonyD]

We either bring in another couple of quality players, sensible, winners, or we are going to struggle.  I don't know whether it's the Manager or the purchases as we seem as ordinary a fuck.  I used the term Frankenstein's monster in the match thread and will stick to that.

You could sign peak playing era Viera, Zidane and Shearer and we'd still look rank with these tactics.
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We either bring in another couple of quality players, sensible, winners, or we are going to struggle.  I don't know whether it's the Manager or the purchases as we seem as ordinary a fuck.  I used the term Frankenstein's monster in the match thread and will stick to that.

You could sign peak playing era Viera, Zidane and Shearer and we'd still look rank with these tactics.

Spot on.  He would make them look like shite within a month. 

[Rudy65]

This has all the evidence of a team / squad who aren't playing for the manager. Its been going on since Jan with the exception of Leeds x 2 and Southampton home

[Jane]

He's Tim Sherwood but without the charisma and tactical awareness.

Perfectly put.

[CT Villan]

Konsa, McGinn and Digne stinking the place out...and bloody hoofball is back.

Bruce out !

Passing, defending, crossing, possessing, football iq all absent. I expect a 14-16th place finish if SG gets the whole season.

[Vegas]

This has all the evidence of a team / squad who aren't playing for the manager. Its been going on since Jan with the exception of Leeds x 2 and Southampton home

I don’t agree with that. Think it’s a lack of quality and tactics not dissent at this point.  Although it might not be long

[TonyD]

You could see us getting overrun in the midfield early on - and he did fuck all to combat it.

[littleoldme]

On the fence so long it's collapsed under the weight of expectation, i pray someone somewhere can pull us away from the hole we seem determined to dig for ourselves, is it organisation, personnel, i have no idea, at least i'm not alone on that front.

[john2710]

Fucking bastards.

Out muscled & out fought at every point of the game. Too easy to play against & too easy to score against. Where's the fight?

We need to go back to basics.

[Nii Lamptey]

Almost as shit as the Villa Park HT catering service, which just about edges it.

[KevinGage]

Must have been nice to be in that Palarse dressing room at half time, near certain that you were going to win this one.

[Flin5tone]

And people call me a moaner and negative.
The club IS being destroyed by Purslow and co.
We've lost our identity , we talk up our chances or Europe and increase the prices. Yet today we had ONE different player on the pitch from last season.

The manager hasn't got a clue but the problems are far bigger than changing the manager

[PaulWinch again]

Pretty horrible. There are several problems but one of the obvious ones is you can’t play attacking wingbacks and leave yourself so open. That’s a real flaw.

[brontebilly]

Complete shit show. Basics of football, or any team sport, is that firstly you have to be able to physically compete. We aren't, we are getting bullied in nearly every area of the pitch. Other fundementals like team spirit are also sadly lacking, watch Ramsey's effort to track Hughes for that chance at the end as just one example. I think it all stems from tactical confusion really and a manager completely out of his depth.
Martinez 6 - couple of smart saves but very poor distribution at times and strangely stuck to his goal line throughout. Including the last goal.
Cash 4 - destroyed by an on fire Zaha. Got into loads of promising positions but Buendia chance aside made a mess of most of them.
Konsa 5 - dreadful first half but thought he was much better in the second, saving our bacon on a few occasions.
Mings 6 - the reverse of Konsa. But they got zero support from non existent full backs and midfield
Digne 2 - bullied by Jordan Ayew! Soft as shite and a dreadful signing.
Kamara 3 - complete passenger
Ramsey 3 - see above
McGinn 3 - see above, ref bottled giving him a deserved second yellow too
Bailey 5 - brilliant assist and shot but far too often he didn't protect the ball well enough, lost in this formation anyway
Watkins 5 - started well and an early goal. Then his shins turned into timber again and couldn't hold anything up. That was a sitter he missed at the end too.
Buendia 7 - excellent first half. Missed a big chance. Quieter after the break but ridiculous decision to hook him for Gerrard's mate.

Luiz was decent when he came on, despite not looking particularly fit. Other two hardly had a kick.

[pauliewalnuts]

We won't win many matches if we just meekly surrender the midfield week after week.

We got away with it against a piss poor side in Everton, but Bournemouth and Palace both dominated us in that part of the pitch.

I don't see how he and Critchley, McAllister, Danks and Rick Wakeman can sit on Monday and rewatch that shit show and not see the problem.

For a team that looks entirely uncoached, we have a massive coaching team.

[Steve67]

We either bring in another couple of quality players, sensible, winners, or we are going to struggle.  I don't know whether it's the Manager or the purchases as we seem as ordinary a fuck.  I used the term Frankenstein's monster in the match thread and will stick to that.

Adding further expensive signings to the mix is like using £50 notes as sticking plasters! We have a squad MORE THAN capable of competing in the top half of the table - The manager however, far from it!

Either sack the manager, or back him.  If we don't, we are potentially in a relegation scrap.