Quote from: ldavfc4eva on May 19, 2022, 10:05:55 PMThere are a lot of international players in the squad, so not too sure the mediocre ones are.Martinez, Mings, Digne,Coutinho, Luiz, Ings, Watkins all have played at the highest level and for highly ranked nations.Add Cash, McGinn, Ramsey (England U21) Olsen, Traore etc for lesser nations in the FIFA Rankings or U21, and I don’t see too many poor quality players.Getting them to gel and play consistently together seems to be the issue rather than individual player quality.So how much longer will you give them. Bang average most of them. I love Oli but he isn’t international quality
There are a lot of international players in the squad, so not too sure the mediocre ones are.Martinez, Mings, Digne,Coutinho, Luiz, Ings, Watkins all have played at the highest level and for highly ranked nations.Add Cash, McGinn, Ramsey (England U21) Olsen, Traore etc for lesser nations in the FIFA Rankings or U21, and I don’t see too many poor quality players.Getting them to gel and play consistently together seems to be the issue rather than individual player quality.
Same for Oli.
Quote from: Risso on May 19, 2022, 10:08:31 PMToo many ordinary players. Watkins, McGinn, Luiz, nowhere near good enough. If we get offered stupid money for those, I'd let all three go.
Too many ordinary players. Watkins, McGinn, Luiz, nowhere near good enough.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on May 19, 2022, 10:09:00 PMQuote from: Risso on May 19, 2022, 10:08:31 PMToo many ordinary players. Watkins, McGinn, Luiz, nowhere near good enough. If we get offered stupid money for those, I'd let all three go.Me too, although I like McGinn and Watkins they are being linked with moves for fees way above their value. Luiz I do not rate, and would take the money and run if anyone offered to buy him.Think the real challenge is in shifting on Wesley (surely our worst ever big money signing), Trez, El Ghazi, Traore, Sanson and other fringe players that are unlikely to see much gametime next season.
If we end up finishing 14th, then I think it would have gone from being mediocre to a poor season really. Just feels like a disjointed season, where we have never really got going over a consistent period of time and we just seem to produce exactly the same lacklustre performance that has haunted us for the past decade, particularly at home. We have changed every aspect of the club multiple times in that period, but we still just can't seem to shake that malaise off.We're now looking at another major overhaul in the summer and Steven Gerrard has got to get it right, because he can't really afford a poor start next season.
Quote from: tomd2103 on May 20, 2022, 12:16:54 AMIf we end up finishing 14th, then I think it would have gone from being mediocre to a poor season really. Just feels like a disjointed season, where we have never really got going over a consistent period of time and we just seem to produce exactly the same lacklustre performance that has haunted us for the past decade, particularly at home. We have changed every aspect of the club multiple times in that period, but we still just can't seem to shake that malaise off.We're now looking at another major overhaul in the summer and Steven Gerrard has got to get it right, because he can't really afford a poor start next season. I don't think it will be major overhaul at all. Yes culling of some squad players but pretty much every club from 3rd downwards will be doing that.Keeper and most of backline don't need replacing given we've just signed a full back for 25m and other has new 5 year deal.The key is to stop messing around with the DM position and sign someone with the profile we desperately need there and try to use pre season to work out a consistent forward line up as not convinced Gerrard has worked it out bar deciding Coutinho/Buendia can't really function on pitch at same time.
This is our 2nd season of mediocrity in a decade.
Quote from: Ads on May 20, 2022, 01:48:54 AMThis is our 2nd season of mediocrity in a decade.A good point. We've spent a few years aspiring to mediocrity and now we've achieved it. Think of the stress that fans of Burnley, Leeds, Forest and Huddersfield are going through, think back to what it was like, take a deep breath and relax. Bathe in warm puddle that is mediocrity and focus on future improvements. Picture yourself running through a sea of claret and blue flags. See the confetti cannons explode in a mass of claret and blue. Imagine the trauma for Baggies and Bluenoses. Villa are good. Life is good. This is our future.
Listening to Garry Thompson on WM last night on the way back from the ""bore fest" he said that for Villa to progress they need a whole new spine of the team, Centre Halves, DM and a strikerHopefully the owners will back the manager in the transfer market.