Burnley v Aston Villa Pre-Match

[Footy-Vill]

Yes, it’s impossible to imagine how we’ll beat a team below us in the table who have been shit for almost their entire existence.

Hope you don't mind my correction.

I'm always amazed there isn't much much more resepect given and made of the 12 founding members of the football league. The vulgarisation of Prem has part seem to that.
But for football history and tradition Aston Villa of course plus likes of Burnley should be far more honoured and respected in English football history. I think it's noted the prestige we have and they occasionally through up the fact for likes of Everton , Sheff Utd or WBA to suit the narrative when they are ever in these relegation from top league danger but maybe it's always been like that as time has evolved

Anyway think my point is Burnley are a good old club and that really for traditional English football lovers this match Vs our great selves should be celebrated and have far more coverage than it gets.

[Chris Smith]

It’s 2 inconsistent teams. We’ve won 5 more games than Burnley but they’ve lost 3 fewer than us this season and they’ve just won 3 in a row. It would be an excellent result for us if we win up there but not something anyone can be confident about.

[Ads]

Yes, it’s impossible to imagine how we’ll beat a team below us in the table who have been shit for almost their entire existence.

Hope you don't mind my correction.

I'm always amazed there isn't much much more resepect given and made of the 12 founding members of the football league. The vulgarisation of Prem has part seem to that.
But for football history and tradition Aston Villa of course plus likes of Burnley should be far more honoured and respected in English football history. I think it's noted the prestige we have and they occasionally through up the fact for likes of Everton , Sheff Utd or WBA to suit the narrative when they are ever in these relegation from top league danger but maybe it's always been like that as time has evolved

Anyway think my point is Burnley are a good old club and that really for traditional English football lovers this match Vs our great selves should be celebrated and have far more coverage than it gets.

If I think Tottenham are shithouse post code lottery merchants, who've not won the title since colour television was invented, why would I want to be generous to a side who have won and done even less? They're a bunch of racist Tory voting bastards, who've stunk the league out with their thuggish and diabolical football for the past few years, since they remerged from the lower league swamp that they ought to disappear back into. Fuck Burnley, fuck Tottenham too. Ben Mee is vulgar. I hope we smash them into next week.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I should say that I haven't watched Burnley at all this season, and certainly not since they sacked their manager, so I don't know too much about them or how they'll play - but I imagine we'll have to fight to earn the right to play football. Get that done and I want us to tear them apart. Control the game - we don't do that enough - and make our chances count.

A Burnley supporting mate has recently described them as "entertaining" (last match) and "main thing today was that we actually played football and we out fought them" (previous match). He was all prepared and actually looking forward to seeing them in the Championship but since Dyche has gone he's changed his mind.

I know it's difficult to imagine Burnley playing decent football but hopefully they won't be trying to kick us all over the pitch tomorrow.

[Mister E]

If I think Tottenham are shithouse post code lottery merchants, who've not won the title since colour television was invented, why would I want to be generous to a side who have won and done even less? They're a bunch of racist Tory voting bastards, who've stunk the league out with their thuggish and diabolical football for the past few years, since they remerged from the lower league swamp that they ought to disappear back into. Fuck Burnley, fuck Tottenham too. Ben Mee is vulgar. I hope we smash them into next week.

Well, let's hope the Villa team have as much passion for tomorrow's game as you have, Ads!

[Villa Lew]

I'd bring Emi and Marv in for Bailey and Tim and if Ramsey is not fit, Sanson.

[Ads]

Martinez

Cash
Chambers
Mings
Digne

Marv
McGinn
Luiz

Coutinho
Buendia

Watkins

[Sexual Ealing]

Yes, it’s impossible to imagine how we’ll beat a team below us in the table who have been shit for almost their entire existence.

Hope you don't mind my correction.

I'm always amazed there isn't much much more resepect given and made of the 12 founding members of the football league. The vulgarisation of Prem has part seem to that.
But for football history and tradition Aston Villa of course plus likes of Burnley should be far more honoured and respected in English football history. I think it's noted the prestige we have and they occasionally through up the fact for likes of Everton , Sheff Utd or WBA to suit the narrative when they are ever in these relegation from top league danger but maybe it's always been like that as time has evolved

Anyway think my point is Burnley are a good old club and that really for traditional English football lovers this match Vs our great selves should be celebrated and have far more coverage than it gets.

If I think Tottenham are shithouse post code lottery merchants, who've not won the title since colour television was invented, why would I want to be generous to a side who have won and done even less? They're a bunch of racist Tory voting bastards, who've stunk the league out with their thuggish and diabolical football for the past few years, since they remerged from the lower league swamp that they ought to disappear back into. Fuck Burnley, fuck Tottenham too. Ben Mee is vulgar. I hope we smash them into next week.

Have you had an epiphany, Ads?!

[LeeB]

Good on you Ads, keep the red flag flying high comrade!

[Brazilian Villain]

I'm always amazed there isn't much much more resepect given and made of the 12 founding members of the football league. The vulgarisation of Prem has part seem to that.
But for football history and tradition Aston Villa of course plus likes of Burnley should be far more honoured and respected in English football history. I think it's noted the prestige we have and they occasionally through up the fact for likes of Everton , Sheff Utd or WBA to suit the narrative when they are ever in these relegation from top league danger but maybe it's always been like that as time has evolved

Anyway think my point is Burnley are a good old club and that really for traditional English football lovers this match Vs our great selves should be celebrated and have far more coverage than it gets.

If I think Tottenham are shithouse post code lottery merchants, who've not won the title since colour television was invented, why would I want to be generous to a side who have won and done even less? They're a bunch of racist Tory voting bastards, who've stunk the league out with their thuggish and diabolical football for the past few years, since they remerged from the lower league swamp that they ought to disappear back into. Fuck Burnley, fuck Tottenham too. Ben Mee is vulgar. I hope we smash them into next week.

Have you had an epiphany, Ads?!

I assumed it was either satire or his account had been hacked. I agree with him on Spurs but like FV don't mind Burnley.

[Ads]

Good on you Ads, keep the red flag flying high comrade!

Rule 1: know your audience.

[dave.woodhall]

If you're impressed by Burnley having a couple of years not being shit, 60 odd years ago, then surely you'd be equally impressed by the Albion or the Wolves. And nobody is impressed by them.

As I have always said, them in stripes are the biggest club in our history and we've had our moments with Wolves.

That sounds close to a compliment about them you know!

It's the truth. We've had more big games against the Albion than any other club. In fact, you could argue that we've had more in the past eight seasons than we have against Small Heath in almost 150 years.

Quarter final in 2010 and the derby in 2019 were the only big games for us. You could argue that the League Cup in 93/94, with it being the 2nd round wasn't particularly big in context. Then it's back to the League Cup in 63 and I'm not sure how much stock anybody put in it then.

The 2 Play Off games were obviously massive for us against Sandwell. Their "bestest team ever" finished 4th and we won the league, so big shrug. But beyond that we're going back generations to Ronnie Allen relegating us and before that, events of 100+ years.

Wouldn't disagree that there's history, I just don't think there's too many alive and kicking who've ever seen our local rivals actually matter an iota to us in competitive terms, beyond a handful of games, if that.

Take out the name of the opposition and for Small Heath you have a League Cup quarter final in 2010-11 and a final in the same competition that we treated so importantly we knocked a stand down the week before. 

Against Albion there's the play-offs (lose them and who knows what would have happened), our first home FA Cup quarter final in almost sixty years, before that the Brendan Batson backpass game, then loads more over the years In fact, it was only in about 1998 that us two lost the record of the most-played FA Cup final. As is often the case, Peter Morris sums it up far better than I - "what a fascinating pattern their blue and white stripes have woven into Villa's history". 

[Ads]

If you're impressed by Burnley having a couple of years not being shit, 60 odd years ago, then surely you'd be equally impressed by the Albion or the Wolves. And nobody is impressed by them.

As I have always said, them in stripes are the biggest club in our history and we've had our moments with Wolves.

That sounds close to a compliment about them you know!

It's the truth. We've had more big games against the Albion than any other club. In fact, you could argue that we've had more in the past eight seasons than we have against Small Heath in almost 150 years.

Quarter final in 2010 and the derby in 2019 were the only big games for us. You could argue that the League Cup in 93/94, with it being the 2nd round wasn't particularly big in context. Then it's back to the League Cup in 63 and I'm not sure how much stock anybody put in it then.

The 2 Play Off games were obviously massive for us against Sandwell. Their "bestest team ever" finished 4th and we won the league, so big shrug. But beyond that we're going back generations to Ronnie Allen relegating us and before that, events of 100+ years.

Wouldn't disagree that there's history, I just don't think there's too many alive and kicking who've ever seen our local rivals actually matter an iota to us in competitive terms, beyond a handful of games, if that.

Take out the name of the opposition and for Small Heath you have a League Cup quarter final in 2010-11 and a final in the same competition that we treated so importantly we knocked a stand down the week before. 

Against Albion there's the play-offs (lose them and who knows what would have happened), our first home FA Cup quarter final in almost sixty years, before that the Brendan Batson backpass game, then loads more over the years In fact, it was only in about 1998 that us two lost the record of the most-played FA Cup final. As is often the case, Peter Morris sums it up far better than I - "what a fascinating pattern their blue and white stripes have woven into Villa's history". 

No I agree with the Noses. Its always been a case of us willing dragging ourselves down to their level by and large.

A question for you, would we have tolerated Ellis ticking us over like a corner shop quite as long as we did through the 90s (missing our big chance) if say the Albion or the Wolves had been competitive? Or out another way, did all of our neighbours being absolutely woeful for 20 odd years, let us off the hook.

[dave.woodhall]

Absolutely that was one of our biggest problems. We were happy to be the biggest club in the region and I lost count of the number of times I heard that if it wasn't for Ellis we'd have been like them. I didn't know how that worked then and I still don't

[ChicagoLion]

Under Ellis we basked in the superiority over our neighbours but mediocrity in respect of our peers.