Leicester City (0) vs Aston Villa (0) Post-Match Thread

[ChicagoLion]

The amount of attacks that ended with Watkins first touch.

[rob_bridge]

And how are Newcastle six points and six places above us.

Simple they hired an experienced PL manager who could arrange the existing resources more effectively and supplement them with some additional good players.

We didn’t

But Rob you have to admit however clueless on the pitch our Steven is great interviewee?

Well to ve fair he has always been very media friendly. Who knows maybe with an entourage of helpful sycophants talking him up if makes him a great one

[Beard82]

Sorry this thing that it’s clear that the style under Gerrard will be awful is at best assumptive and at worst just bollocks. We’re not playing flowing football at the moment clearly, but it’s a team low on confidence. We have also played really well under Gerrard. It just strikes me that people are cherry picking to suit their argument. A team being in poor form does not mean the manager is clueless or hopeless. It also doesn’t say he’ll turn it round and be a success. But it’s nonsense to call him Sherwood or write him off yet.

He shouldnt be compared to Sherw**d - he has intergrity and hes no chancer. 

He might not turn out to be a good fit for us, and I have been pretty critical of him, but to compare him to Tatics Tim isn't fair

[charleeco7]

First half was as boring a match as I’ve been to in a while. I really struggle to see what the system is or how it’s going to work if we don’t press the ball, which we didn’t. Mcginn is playing so out of position it’s really hampering his game.
Better second half but they were there for the taking and we failed to do so. Watkins worked hard, as did Cash and Young. Buendia has to start next game.
Happy to take a point but really don’t want another summer or rebuilding.

[rob_bridge]

Never been so bored at a game

Well since the Lambert days


Watkins has been getting lessons off Ashley young how to dive .

He's not good enough

I think permanent left 4% of my life in those years. Not sure when it will be returned

[Brend'Watkins]

I thought Mings was great today and dealt with everything that came into into our box effortlessly. Iroegbunam looked really good when he came on, as did Buendia.

Sounds about right, Mings got MOTM on the BBC player voting.

He was mine too. Konsa looked a bit iffy though. What’s happened with him? Bailey has been a very poor acquisition, arrives with an injury, plays a bit part v Everton and has an influence for 15 minutes, scores and is injured kicking the ball hard. He’s done nothing since except stupid fouls away in dangerous positions. He’s been a complete waste of money. I thought or was lead to believe he had pace. There’s not much evidence of that.

[Grocer]

Summary of post match comments fir our last 2 games:

Beat the goal down v Spurs, missed our chances then shipped 4 against a side gunning for Europe with 2 strikers on top form = worst Villa side in living memory.

Kept a clean sheet today and got a point  away at Leicester whose last 4 home games were 3 wins and a draw and who are in the Europa Conference semi finals = the worst Villa side since the end of WW2..

Ha, very true.

... and utter bollocks!

Its really not bollocks, its actually spot on. Lots of the ultra negative comments on here are from
Posters who have already made their minds up about Gerrard, nothing short of a thumping win would of altered some of them, in fact some of the posters would of gone awol. After 4 defeats on the bounce, ill take a scrappy niggly draw at Leicester with a clean sheet.

Thank you, you've saved me having to post as this is exactly what I would have commented. Granted, things are not great but this was a decent point and new managers need time. Understand emotions are always high in the post-match thread but some ridiculous hyperbole on here tonight. We're not in a position at present to go and hammer Leicester away from home, and many people commented before the game on our inability to grind out draws.

[kippaxvilla2]

It’s pretty obvious there’s a confidence issue - unsurprisingly - I wouldn’t say it’s all down to tactics. Getting a point away is a step in the right direction.

Broadcasting that they are all shit and will be flogged in the summer might have something to do with it.

Did he say that? Or words to that affect

From today’s post match interview.

“We’ll try and get as many points on the board as we can and try to finish in a position from which we can build,” he said. “Then we can look for the right players to try and have a strong pre-season.”

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

Didn’t watch the game and only followed the match thread for the first 20 mins. It didn’t sound good so I’m somewhat encouraged that we picked up a decent point away from home against a good team. I’d have taken that before the game, onwards and hopefully upwards.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

It’s pretty obvious there’s a confidence issue - unsurprisingly - I wouldn’t say it’s all down to tactics. Getting a point away is a step in the right direction.

Broadcasting that they are all shit and will be flogged in the summer might have something to do with it.

Did he say that? Or words to that affect

From today’s post match interview.

“We’ll try and get as many points on the board as we can and try to finish in a position from which we can build,” he said. “Then we can look for the right players to try and have a strong pre-season.”

I’m not overly enthusiastic about wholesale changes although accept that we need reinforcements in key positions, Gerrard certainly needs to get more out of the present squad and work with what he’s got.

[Baldy]

Today was all about the result not the performance. Gerrard basically said that before the match. A draw at Leicester is a good result. Mission accomplished.

Beat Norwich next week and the pressure is off. Stevie G then has the license to take more risks, see what we have in the locker before assembling his own squad.

A good day at the office.

[Nev]

I went to IKEA today rather than watch the game.

[itmustbe_it is!]

Summary of post match comments fir our last 2 games:

Beat the goal down v Spurs, missed our chances then shipped 4 against a side gunning for Europe with 2 strikers on top form = worst Villa side in living memory.

Kept a clean sheet today and got a point  away at Leicester whose last 4 home games were 3 wins and a draw and who are in the Europa Conference semi finals = the worst Villa side since the end of WW2..

Ha, very true.

... and utter bollocks!

Its really not bollocks, its actually spot on. Lots of the ultra negative comments on here are from
Posters who have already made their minds up about Gerrard, nothing short of a thumping win would of altered some of them, in fact some of the posters would of gone awol. After 4 defeats on the bounce, ill take a scrappy niggly draw at Leicester with a clean sheet.

Thank you, you've saved me having to post as this is exactly what I would have commented. Granted, things are not great but this was a decent point and new managers need time. Understand emotions are always high in the post-match thread but some ridiculous hyperbole on here tonight. We're not in a position at present to go and hammer Leicester away from home, and many people commented before the game on our inability to grind out draws.

Good post

[Three Spires Villa]

Well, I was at the game, and not a great game but we got dug in and got a good point, so we’ll done Villa, I had a good day.

[Allan C]

And how are Newcastle six points and six places above us.

Simple they hired an experienced PL manager who could arrange the existing resources more effectively and supplement them with some additional good players.

We didn’t

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Where is this list of experienced managers who were available that suddenly could have been so much better than what we got? That’s not me saying Gerrard was the best available but to think we missed out on so much better and so much more experience simply has no merit. We had an experienced manager and he got fired. Rafa Benitez has a very successful history in the game and he was awful. Managers coming in from another country are not guaranteed succeed. Klopp didn’t walk in and magically turn Liverpool into what they are now. Ragnick at Man U has been a failure. Moyes failed multiple times before being reborn, second time around at West Ham. He was fired by them before. Conte would never have come to us.

There is simply no guarantee that “experience” equates to success. And we have also seen Vieira take Palace to the cup semi final, Arteta in a couple of seasons turn Arsenal into a side that might qualify for the CL. And he’s taken all manner of criticism. So before we hammer Gerrard after 6 months in the job let’s see how it plays out.

Yes correct. Gerrard was the the best candidate from the realistic list of candidates at the time of Smiths sacking. Now he’s here, we’ve got to give him time to develop what is largely Smith’s squad. Smith was allowed that with Bruce’s squad so why is Gerrard not being allowed it?? Potters name cropped up again which made me chuckle, mighty Brighton a full 3 points ahead of us and played a game more!!!

Hes clearly going to get time - so its a mute point.  But, what Smith did was show improvement until the point he didnt and then he was sacked.  Hand on heart, how many people can say the Gerrard has been an improvement on where we were under smith. 

Thats not saying anything is right or wrong, but I dont think the narrative is correct to say that Dean was given time - he earnt that time.

I agree to a point but Smith earnt his time in a substandard league. The following season with Bruce’s squad we were Awful but he was given time to build his own set up with relative success last season. Gerrard has gone straight into the PL with a squad that was failing under Smith. They were likely (have) failed under Gerrard too.