The Villa Clearout

[ChicagoLion]

It’s easier to say who I really want to keep.

[Des Little]

I’d agree with everything in the OP, although I’d keep Konsa personally, as I think he’s been hampered by playing alongside an erratic Mings.

I can see Coutinho packing his bags (who could blame him), which would give Buendia his chance for a way back in.

There are two or three in that starting line up who I don’t even think will
play again this season after that shit show in the second half.

[Risso]

There's the potential for a good team as shown by the first half display. My first departures would be McGinn and Luiz though. Neither have been consistently good enough for all the time we've been in the Premier League and thee years is ample evidence. A defensive midfielder who can't defend, and an attacking midfielder who can't pass or score goals are of very little use. I don't care what Luiz does for Brazil or that McGinn has scored a few goals against shit countries for Scotland.

Next in line would be Watkins. Every inch the lower league player given a golden ticket for the big time.

[chrisw1]

We can’t change 5 or 6 of our starting players so I think the clear out will be a lot more modest than people think.  I wouldn’t be surprised if Watkins, Luiz move on and I suspect we’ll try to ship out Sanson, Traore & Bailey.

I think we would be giving ourselves too much to do if we need to find a top quality centre back and striker in addition to a DM so I can’t see us ripping it up much beyond that this window.

[N'ZMAV]

easier to look at the keep list.

Keep:
Martinez
Cash
Digne
Chambers
Ramsey
Coutinho
Buendia
Archer

I don't mind Luiz, Konsa, Mings and McGinn staying - but they need to be pushed harder for their positions - I don't like the fact that they're guaranteed to play if they're fit - they need to be replaced and pushed down the pecking order.

[N'ZMAV]

Traore, El Ghazi and Trez need to go whatever happens. Even if we have to release them all.

[oldhill_avfc]

easier to look at the keep list.

Keep:
Martinez
Cash
Digne
Chambers
Ramsey
Coutinho
Buendia
Archer

I’d add Konsa, McGinn and Watkins.  Their form is poor but on the whole when not being messed around they’ve got a proven record.

Not fussed about continho - his wages would pay for 2 or 3 other options.

[N'ZMAV]

easier to look at the keep list.

Keep:
Martinez
Cash
Digne
Chambers
Ramsey
Coutinho
Buendia
Archer

I’d add Konsa, McGinn and Watkins.  Their form is poor but on the whole when not being messed around they’ve got a proven record.

Not fussed about continho - his wages would pay for 2 or 3 other options.

yeah I edited my post with a few that we could keep but they'd need to be pushed down the pecking order

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

No way are Villa going to be "clearing out" some of the names being mentioned on here. The likes of Konsa, Watkins, McGinn and Mings have lost confidence under our manager, but that doesn't make them bad players. Can they be upgraded? Of course they can, but that takes time and plenty of cash. We can't keep throwing money at the problem though.
We need a combination of good coaching and management to work with the good players we have allied to clear upgrades in positions we are desperately short of quality in eg dcm.

[Drummond]

We've got some good players, but for where we want to head, a number of them need to become squad rather than starters.

[bilsim]

Cash, Martinez and Ramsey are the ones you unequivocally say "Keep".

Digne will be our first choice LB. Coutinho looks likely to stay just because he wants regular football and I think Gerrard has sold him the "project".

McGinn is a cult hero and will always be remembered fondly, but has been woeful for some time now and we'd certainly make a tidy profit if we sell him.

Mings is a tough one because, whilst I think a large group of our fan base are far too quick to criticise him and I am proud to have him associated with the club for his off the pitch stuff... He ain't a good enough player to get us to where we want to be. Again, we would get good money for him as an established England International.

Konsa, who was a Rolls-Royce of a defender, looks like a red-card/goal conceded waiting to happen. His drop off in form this season has been startling. Could see him going.

Luiz, again has been playing out of position for so long it's hard to really know what his role is, but he looks lazy and disinterested to me. Sell sell sell.

Buendia struggled at the start of the season, played himself into form and was then usurped by Coutinho. A shame for him, but I definitely see a future for him at the club.

Watkins, for all of his industry, fits into that mould of simply not being clinical enough. And the whole looking miserable when anyone but him scores thing makes me irrationally angry. Another one we could make big money on.

Danny Ings is a proven goalscorer and if we hadn't bought him last summer, he's exactly the type of player we'd be looking at as a no-brainer to bring in this summer. So of course it hasn't worked for him here. I guarantee that if he leaves, he'll score 20+ for his new club. That's just the way it goes.

Special mention to Ashley Young who has been a disaster of a signing. I honestly thought his Villa legacy couldn't be anymore taunted than it was when he threw himself down to win United a penalty against us, but here we are.

Finally we have the likes of Sanson, Bailey and Traore. A combination of bad luck, injuries and limited impact being made in their time on the pitch. I don't see a future for any of them here.

Now, there is absolutely no way that we are going to sell nine of our first team squad in the summer... But I wouldn't be shocked or disappointed at any of those I've mentioned leaving. It's all starting to feel a bit precarious.

[Clark W Griswold]

We don't need to be looking to move on anyone except the players who haven't been involved this season and for the most part looked sub standard before, Guilbert, Hause, Hourahane, Trezeguet, Wesley, El Ghazi, Davis and then anyone who is 'not at it' behind the scenes who i would guess would be Sanson and Bailey and then anyone whos interested in moving and isn't too good anyway (Luiz). I think i'd also move Young on due to his age. That's still 11 players, plus the GK loanee will be sent back and we'll have Steer back. For me, Luiz is the worst player that has been a regular in the starting 11 this season.
Anyone else in the squad we should be aiming to keep unless we get silly money offers and have a good plan of who to replace with, with the exception of Martinez who we should be trying to keep at all costs as we simply won't find a GK as good as him let alone better.
So that leaves;
Martinez, Another, Steer
Cash, Another, Konsa, Chambers, Mings, Another, Dinge, Targett
Nakamba, Another, Another, McGinn, Ramsey, Another
Another, Buendia
Traore
Ings, Watkins, Another, Archer. (24 players)
Not included Chuk due to the contract situation or Coutinho as i don't think he'll sign.
We could promote a few others as well as Archer to the first team squad but that's potentially 8 new signings without offloading many of the current starters that people want to shift. There's only so much you want to do in one go. I'd prefer us to play the 2 up front with one behind rather than wingers and big money needs to be spent on a DM, Coutinho replacement, CF and CB. For the others we can look for value for money punts, or maybe promote youth players.

[Mister E]

I think there will be a big clear-out - just hope it starts early and is properly coordinated to manage integration for incomers.
Trez
AEG (£10m)
Wesley
Luiz (£25m)
Watkins (£40m)
Ings (£12m)
Targett (£15m)
Konsa (£20m)
Bailey (£15m)
Traore (£6m)
Davis (£15m)

Circa £160-170m generated - Add £50m from the owners and we could bring in 5 upgrades to be blended in with remaining first team squad members and some youngsters.
Wage bill will probably go up by 30-40%.

[Ads]

Ramsey is the only midfielder I like and he is so inconsistent, ad you'd expect. That's a huge problem.

For all the money we've spent, the middle of the park is a little light in every department. A rough metric, but with Marv, Luiz, McGinn, Sanson, Ramsey who are pur options, the outlay is £37m-ish. Our full backs cost about the same.

[wittonwarrior]

wouldn't surprise me if McGinn, Watkins and Mings move on.  Gerrard has doubts about our defence, Mings is the biggest asset money wise; McGinn who I fear would look good in a decent team is at the moment giving ball after ball away; as for Watkins we need a reliable striker read into it what you want.