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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #1305 on: May 26, 2022, 01:26:38 PM »
We don't seem to be short of coaching staff, anyway. When we won the first four games of Smith's second season in the Prem, quite a few people said it was down to Shakespeare's influence as assistant head coach. Then when things went a bit south, this was also his fault. I'm not sure that assistants are THAT important or difficult to replace.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #1306 on: May 26, 2022, 01:27:59 PM »
I confess I'd never heard of him before today. I thought McAllister was the assistant manager.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #1307 on: May 26, 2022, 01:39:45 PM »
I confess I'd never heard of him before today. I thought McAllister was the assistant manager.
There was an awful lot of stuff written about him at the time of the appointment.  I think if you had seen it you might understand the issue.  Beale is very highly regarded in the game.  Even Gerrard was quoted as saying somehting like Beale knows far more than he does so he lets him get on with it.

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« Reply #1308 on: May 26, 2022, 01:41:45 PM »
I still don't see the issue. Unless you're appointing some bloke in his 60s/70s, you have to accept that assistant managers will sometimes leave to pursue management jobs. If it is going to happen, end of May when there are no matches or even training sessions seems as good a time as any.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #1309 on: May 26, 2022, 01:45:54 PM »
I still don't see the issue. Unless you're appointing some bloke in his 60s/70s, you have to accept that assistant managers will sometimes leave to pursue management jobs. If it is going to happen, end of May when there are no matches or even training sessions seems as good a time as any.

Anyone leaving in any capacity the issue is surely how they are replaced. In this case it appears that Gerrard trusted him which is obviously important and that’s not going to automatically follow with a new coach.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #1310 on: May 26, 2022, 01:48:49 PM »
Beale would be a huge loss in my opinion. Hoping that the bookies are wrong this time!

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #1311 on: May 26, 2022, 01:51:59 PM »
Gerrard has an army of coaches. Surely the others will have picked up some of Beale's knowledge and coaching skills.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #1312 on: May 26, 2022, 01:56:22 PM »
I still don't see the issue. Unless you're appointing some bloke in his 60s/70s, you have to accept that assistant managers will sometimes leave to pursue management jobs. If it is going to happen, end of May when there are no matches or even training sessions seems as good a time as any.
What part of losing a very valuable cog in the team don't you understand?  Of course the timing is as good as it can be, but that doesn't mean we're not losing an incredibly important member of the team.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56298826

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #1313 on: May 26, 2022, 01:56:25 PM »
This Diego Carlos one seems to be gathering momentum.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #1314 on: May 26, 2022, 01:58:24 PM »
We'll definitely find out what Gerrard is made of if he goes.

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« Reply #1315 on: May 26, 2022, 02:00:49 PM »
I still don't see the issue. Unless you're appointing some bloke in his 60s/70s, you have to accept that assistant managers will sometimes leave to pursue management jobs. If it is going to happen, end of May when there are no matches or even training sessions seems as good a time as any.
What part of losing a very valuable cog in the team don't you understand?  Of course the timing is as good as it can be, but that doesn't mean we're not losing an incredibly important member of the team.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56298826

https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/michael-beale-rangers-steven-gerrard/

I understand it, thanks. I'm just not as upset that something that happens all the time might happen. Assistant managers leave sometimes. The club will probably still, just about, carry on.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #1316 on: May 26, 2022, 02:02:47 PM »
Well, if Gerrard can attract the likes of Coutinho to join the playing staff, if Beale does leave I wouldn't put it past him to be able to find an excellent assistant as well.

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« Reply #1317 on: May 26, 2022, 02:08:25 PM »
If he's that important we should show Gerrard the door and give Beale the job.
What a daft post.  You don't see there being any value in them working as a team?

It is a daft post. But I honestly have no idea what Beale does or doesn't do.
I just don't subscribe to the idea that Gerrard will be all at sea without him.

He might even bring in somebody better.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #1318 on: May 26, 2022, 02:15:19 PM »
This Diego Carlos one seems to be gathering momentum.

Diego Carlos to Aston Villa is ‘rapidly progressing’, with the players agent meeting with Sevilla officials to make a ‘firm offer.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #1319 on: May 26, 2022, 02:27:43 PM »
I still don't see the issue. Unless you're appointing some bloke in his 60s/70s, you have to accept that assistant managers will sometimes leave to pursue management jobs. If it is going to happen, end of May when there are no matches or even training sessions seems as good a time as any.
What part of losing a very valuable cog in the team don't you understand?  Of course the timing is as good as it can be, but that doesn't mean we're not losing an incredibly important member of the team.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56298826

https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/michael-beale-rangers-steven-gerrard/

I understand it, thanks. I'm just not as upset that something that happens all the time might happen. Assistant managers leave sometimes. The club will probably still, just about, carry on.
But you've said you had know idea who he was.  He's the coach and seemingly the brains behind the whole philosophy of how we play.

Of course the club would 'just about carry on,' as it would if we sold all our best players.  It may, however, not carry on as successfully as we hoped in the short term.  It's not about bed wetting etc, but he's clearly a very important part of the set up.  Losing him would undoubtedly be a blow just as we were hoping to go into a period of growth and improvement.  Yes we'll replace him, but I'd guess replacing what he brings to Gerrards team isn't as easy as going out and getting a back up fullback.

 


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