Newcastle v Villa Post Match Thread

[LeeB]

On the disallowed goal the ball reached Watkins off a Newcastle defender.  I think there may be something about him needing to try and play the ball but surely by looking to block a shot that's exactly what he is doing hence Watkins is onside?

Watkins is offside (well his fucking toe is, maybe) when Coutinho shoots, so the subsequent touches are irrelevant.

I have no doubt however that within a month tops, we'll be watching a goal awarded to Man City/ Man Utd/ Liverpool that will be given because of the subsequent touch by a defender, and then they'll come out and say the rule was changed at 3am on Boxing Day last year and everybody should know that, duh.

[baddowvillans]

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A deflection is not a pass.
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I bet it is some days when it happens to us. 

[LukeJames]

For me, progress next year would be a villa team that is harder to beat. We have lost a staggering amount of games in each of the three years we have been back. Too often we fail to grind out a point from days like yesterday and it drags us down.

Good point, we should not have lost that yesterday as both teams were as bad as each other. Horrific advert for the EPL.

[ASHTONVILLA]

Yep.

Not going the extra mile for Bissouma feels like the mistake we all knew it would be.

Even so, our starting 11 is FAR better that both Leeds and Newcastle's and to come away with 1 point is pathetic.

It will be if we miss out on him, but I'm not sure there was enough left to chase this season to justify paying over the odds now. Had we been close to the top six and/or still in the cup then maybe they'd have gone for it.

Of course it's all speculation, but if for example we'd got him, had  a great second half of the season, finished 6, 7 or 8th we would have been far better placed in the summer to kick on, persuade Coutinho to stay and look for the next piece of the jigsaw.  If on the other hand the season fizzles out and we finish 12-14 it's going to be a tough summer.  I'm obviously making massive assumptions, but I do wonder if just paying the extra for such a pivitol position may have been worth it.

As it is I'd be amazed if we get Bissouma in the summer.  If he doesn't get a top 4 team or Spurs / Arsenal, then my money would be on him going to Newcastle.

Looks like a fuck up to not get him.

I seem to recall there was a significant number of people who didn't want to sign him because of his legal issues.

I agree with Lee's take on it.

Myself included - what if he gets found guilty? Doesn't mean I think we shouldn't have signed a decent DM though, and there must be more than one player out there. What are we paying Lange for? I would have gone for a loan to see the season out and gone back for Bissouma in the summer. Suspect we went for Chambers so he could fill in for Nakamba until fit, and wouldn't suprised to see him start there against Watford.

[chrisw1]

We've been over this, but IF we bid for him (and it seems we did) it will be beacuse our lawyers are absolutely convinced that there's nothiing for him to answer to.

Konsa is out for two games, so Chambers will be starting at centrre back against Watford.

[olaftab]

Emi was at fault for the free kick. He's almost touching his left hand post when the ball is kicked. Whereas keeper positions the wall someone should be assigned to look at keeper's position as well.

[Brazilian Villain]

Trippier now out for an extended period with a fractured foot. Bit late for us.

[Chris Smith]

I see Trippier has fractured a bone in his foot, pity it didn’t happen half an hour earlier.

[ChicagoLion]

Emi was at fault for the free kick. He's almost touching his left hand post when the ball is kicked. Whereas keeper positions the wall someone should be assigned to look at keeper's position as well.

it was him lining up Buendia in no mans land that was the problem

[LeeB]

Emi was at fault for the free kick. He's almost touching his left hand post when the ball is kicked. Whereas keeper positions the wall someone should be assigned to look at keeper's position as well.

it was him lining up Buendia in no mans land that was the problem

I've had a bugbear about keeper's walls for years now, they're always the wrong side. I'm sure there's plenty of data suggesting otherwise, but I think the wall should cover the far and not near side of the goal. If the keeper stands nearside, the ball has to travel further over the wall potentially giving a split second extra to get to it.

[AV82EC]

Did the ball deflect off Buendia?

[LeeB]

Did the ball deflect off Buendia?

Yes, and on one view I thought it knicked off another player first.
 

[London Villan]

The wall was odd - but I'd back one of the best keepers in the world having a reason for how they were lined up. If Buendia doesn't dangle his leg at it then Emi catches it.

[olaftab]

Trippier now out for an extended period with a fractured foot. Bit late for us.

We never get any luck..why doesn't god help us? I always ask for 3 points nothing more as I am not a greedy person
Is that Trippier done for the season? Shame if so

[Chris Smith]

Did the ball deflect off Buendia?

Yes, he lifted his knee and it flicked over the keeper otherwise I think he’d have saved it.