Newcastle v Villa Post Match Thread

[LukeJames]

Most of them had just had the best part of three weeks off.

Gerrard talked about training being full on like matchday.

We also had 2 friendly games on top of that. I don’t think the players were given a holiday.

Maybe they really should have had three weeks off, which of course, is the purpose of the mid-season break!

We also don't have a calm head in the team, someone who can just slow things down a bit and help us to regather ourselves.

Thats the only way Luiz can play.

[The Edge]

We were poor yesterday very poor however there was two big moments in the game that were decisive. That wall for their goal was shambolic. I mean what the actual fuck? And the fact that we employ a specialist set piece coach makes it even more baffling. He needs to be shown the door and pronto. And var can just fuck right off. I know I'm repeating myself here but it is impossible to be so precise from the angle we were shown. It's a guess and it's just ludicrous that they persist with it. But I guess the Premier league hierarchy will be thrilled that Newcastle were thrown a lifeline. All that lovely dosh that the human rights abusers have will be kept in the Prem. The whole thing is vomit inducing.

[sid1964]

Why did our goal keeper (Emi) dive for the free kick from Trippier even with the deflection his shot was going straight down the middle of his goal at knee height?

The performance yesterday was awful, hopefully on Saturday we will see Gerrard stamp his authority on this team, and if he has to drop a few of the "undroppables" then so be it (hopefully he wont think that the answer is to start Ashley)!

Hopefully Gerrard will sort this lot out in the summer, it seems as though it will be another summer of players being brought in and a fair few leaving

[kippaxvilla2]

Luiz reminds me of Craig David.  He doesn’t turn up on a Monday, or a Tuesday can’t be arsed on a Wednesday Thursday Friday or Saturday or Sunday.

[LeeB]

Did I hear it correctly that the ref has been in charge for the last 3 Villa away matches? Surely something should be said about this? It cannot be right as things get spilled over from one match to the next. Also how come Newcastle had committed 21 free kicks yet had few yellow cards whereas a Villa player seemed to pick up a card after every foul.

I thought the ref was abysmal.

He was fucking awful, he basically booked McGinn, who'd won the ball, because he'd been arguing with him a minute earlier about another foul he hadn't given. Ramsey was fouled in the lead up to their goal too, about a minute after he'd given a free kick against Watkins for standing next to Trippier who just fell over.

[Clark W Griswold]

I’d have Sanson in for Luiz and Ings for Watkins and leave it otherwise. If McGinn isn’t doing it I’d hook him at half time for Chucky.

It probably won’t make much difference but it’s got to be done. Luiz just needs dropping full stop and in terms of Watkins and McGinn, they just need pulling out of the firing line for a bit and see if it does them good. They’re both good players that I think still have a good future with us.
Otherwise Gerrard has to put some fire in the belly and kick them up the arse. We have to have more intensity and desire amongst the whole team than was shown yesterday. And he cannot and must not fail to bring in a top quality DCM in the next window to come in for Sanson/Luiz.

[LeeB]

I’d have Sanson in for Luiz and Ings for Watkins and leave it otherwise. If McGinn isn’t doing it I’d hook him at half time for Chucky.

It probably won’t make much difference but it’s got to be done. Luiz just needs dropping full stop and in terms of Watkins and McGinn, they just need pulling out of the firing line for a bit and see if it does them good. They’re both good players that I think still have a good future with us.
Otherwise Gerrard has to put some fire in the belly and kick them up the arse. We have to have more intensity and desire amongst the whole team than was shown yesterday. And he cannot and must not fail to bring in a top quality DCM in the next window to come in for Sanson/Luiz.

I think we need to look at adding a big bastard in one of the midfield roles too, with Watkins all over the shop and Archer coming back next season, the front half of the team would look like it could play five a side for Snow White.

[Risso]

I’d have Sanson in for Luiz and Ings for Watkins and leave it otherwise. If McGinn isn’t doing it I’d hook him at half time for Chucky.

It probably won’t make much difference but it’s got to be done. Luiz just needs dropping full stop and in terms of Watkins and McGinn, they just need pulling out of the firing line for a bit and see if it does them good. They’re both good players that I think still have a good future with us.
Otherwise Gerrard has to put some fire in the belly and kick them up the arse. We have to have more intensity and desire amongst the whole team than was shown yesterday. And he cannot and must not fail to bring in a top quality DCM in the next window to come in for Sanson/Luiz.

You're probably right. While it's probably extremely tempting to drop 4 or 5 of them, too much too soon and the season will really start to fall apart.

[Beard82]

I’d have Sanson in for Luiz and Ings for Watkins and leave it otherwise. If McGinn isn’t doing it I’d hook him at half time for Chucky.

It probably won’t make much difference but it’s got to be done. Luiz just needs dropping full stop and in terms of Watkins and McGinn, they just need pulling out of the firing line for a bit and see if it does them good. They’re both good players that I think still have a good future with us.
Otherwise Gerrard has to put some fire in the belly and kick them up the arse. We have to have more intensity and desire amongst the whole team than was shown yesterday. And he cannot and must not fail to bring in a top quality DCM in the next window to come in for Sanson/Luiz.

You're probably right. While it's probably extremely tempting to drop 4 or 5 of them, too much too soon and the season will really start to fall apart.

Yeah - I think we need to avoid getting to the chuck-everthing out and start again phase.  A lot of the players are good - there just out of form

[ASHTONVILLA]

Most of them had just had the best part of three weeks off.

Gerrard talked about training being full on like matchday.

We also had 2 friendly games on top of that. I don’t think the players were given a holiday.

Maybe they really should have had three weeks off, which of course, is the purpose of the mid-season break!

We also don't have a calm head in the team, someone who can just slow things down a bit and help us to regather ourselves.

Thats the only way Luiz can play.

Except it usually serves mainly to help the opposition regather and gain composure!

[amfy]

Did I hear it correctly that the ref has been in charge for the last 3 Villa away matches? Surely something should be said about this? It cannot be right as things get spilled over from one match to the next. Also how come Newcastle had committed 21 free kicks yet had few yellow cards whereas a Villa player seemed to pick up a card after every foul.

I thought the ref was abysmal.

He was fucking awful, he basically booked McGinn, who'd won the ball, because he'd been arguing with him a minute earlier about another foul he hadn't given. Ramsey was fouled in the lead up to their goal too, about a minute after he'd given a free kick against Watkins for standing next to Trippier who just fell over.

Near the end he booked Leon Bailey for running into a player who just stopped in front of him.

[LeeB]

Did I hear it correctly that the ref has been in charge for the last 3 Villa away matches? Surely something should be said about this? It cannot be right as things get spilled over from one match to the next. Also how come Newcastle had committed 21 free kicks yet had few yellow cards whereas a Villa player seemed to pick up a card after every foul.

I thought the ref was abysmal.

He was fucking awful, he basically booked McGinn, who'd won the ball, because he'd been arguing with him a minute earlier about another foul he hadn't given. Ramsey was fouled in the lead up to their goal too, about a minute after he'd given a free kick against Watkins for standing next to Trippier who just fell over.

Near the end he booked Leon Bailey for running into a player who just stopped in front of him.

I know we're all biased when it comes to refs, but I keep on watching games where we're held to different standards than our opponents. Dan Burn got away with manahandling Watkins all game too.

[kippaxvilla2]

He did give us loads of free kicks as well.  We were just utterly useless with them.

[Mister E]

We are desperate for a prime Gareth Barry & Petrov type of midfield. One to run around kicking people and the other actually making passes.

Watched Declan Rice vs Ndidi after our game: now, there are two decent CMF! It illustrated what we are lacking.

[chrisw1]

I’d have Sanson in for Luiz and Ings for Watkins and leave it otherwise. If McGinn isn’t doing it I’d hook him at half time for Chucky.

Yep.

Not going the extra mile for Bissouma feels like the mistake we all knew it would be.

Even so, our starting 11 is FAR better that both Leeds and Newcastle's and to come away with 1 point is pathetic.