Newcastle v Villa Post Match Thread

[Small Rodent]

Same old post-match excuses - passive, poor passing and giving the ball away.

It really is that simple.

I agree totally.

[mrfuse]

Absolutely Disgraceful performance.
First 45 minutes was some of the worst Football I have seen us play. Sloppy, panicked,dreadful.

Digne looks bang average and the player to fight for his position was LOANED to today's opponents . F****g embarrassing. Only Villa could help out the richest Club in the world who on today's performance will overtake us in the league . I said at the time it would be a bad mistake .

Loaning out El Ghazi (who has scored many late goals for us) AND Trez was also a huge mistake.

Watkins and Ings look lost

Infuriating

I dont think loaning out El Ghazi and Trezeguet was a mistake . They would have made sod all difference to that pile of rubbish today.

There is no point in clamouring for Ings instead of Watkins as we are not creating chances for either and at least Ollie can create his own chances.
McGinn has turned into Shitty John McGinn and could be in danger of being dropped if anyone deserves dropping.

[DC1874]

I watched it in the pub and was grateful I could down numerous pints - feel for the suckers who paid good ££££s to go up there. That was 1/10 and can only day we have major problems - Smith or Gerrard as manager? Makes no difference! Didn't help I had the EDL Water Orton branch sitting behind me :-(

[jwarry]

We lost possession 136 times today. Shocking.

Well there you are!

[jwarry]

Well SG has now lost patience and promised changes so I expect McGuinn  Luiz and Watkins to be dropped for Watford.  And Chuck, Sanson and Ings to come in.  Will not even be surprised if Hause comes in for Mings

[Mister E]

Well SG has now lost patience and promised changes so I expect McGuinn  Luiz and Watkins to be dropped for Watford.  And Chuck, Sanson and Ings to come in.  Will not even be surprised if Hause comes in for Mings

Distribution from the back has been awful, though, so swapping Mings for Hause is like re-arranging the deckchairs on the Titantic.

[Bermuda Villa]

Gerrard made a point about the running stats in his post match interview on Wednesday however he picks the same team when he needed to freshen things up. That decision was on him and coaching staff especially given the performances of Watkins, McGinn and Luiz on Wednesday, it sent a message that you can be crap and still get picked next game.

Watkins was horrendous today with the biggest fault being he cannot control the ball and hold it up. If he could it brings the midfield into play but he lost out on at least 5 or 6 occasions with some of them basic balls into his feet that just bounce off him straight to a Newcastle player ..and then the ball just comes straight back at us. The move leading to their free kick started with Watkins not holding it up and easily getting brushed aside.

Gerrard needs to send a message by dropping players who do not perform so lets see if he is true to his word after todays comments.

UTV

[Clampy]

The first half was as bad as I've seen for a while. The second half was a tad better but not much. VAR really has ruined football.

[Bobby Boy]

It's a pity that Cameron Archer has gone out on loan because it would be an ideal opportunity to give him some Premier League game time.

We're not going to make Europe and we're not going down so it would've been a great time to play him.

Watkins has been truly awful for weeks with Ings not much better.

Incidentally can someone, anyone explain what Luiz brings to the party? Genuinely can't see it.

[The Edge]

That was rank. Can't be bothered to analyse it. Goodnight everyone

[clash city rocker]

Aston villa = one step forward one step back. For years we just seem to tread water.

[TonyD]

The worry is that so many of the players are having a dip in form, can’t get the basics right again and don’t see to know what system they are playing. 
They have so gone backwards. 

[WarszaVillan]

It's a pity that Cameron Archer has gone out on loan because it would be an ideal opportunity to give him some Premier League game time.

We're not going to make Europe and we're not going down so it would've been a great time to play him.

Watkins has been truly awful for weeks with Ings not much better.

Incidentally can someone, anyone explain what Luiz brings to the party? Genuinely can't see it.

I actually think Davis would work well in our system. He may not get many goals himself, but he could hold it up and bring others into play. None of our other strikers can do this.

[Villafirst]

For me, too many players, particularly up front have been loaned out. There's not much competition aside from Watkins and Ings, and God forbid we get an injury. JPB, Archer and Davis are doing well albeit in a lower League. Archer certainly should've stayed. Watkins is short of confidence - last season his chasing down and hold-up play was excellent and got him into the England.squad.

[ASHTONVILLA]

Was talking to my old man after the Leeds game, and said I'd sell Watkins, Luiz and McGinn if the rumoured bids came in. He reckoned he'd keep Watkins but would sell Cash as well.

Seen a few posters in the thread list those four, and all four have linked with moves out. Can't help feeling that if we raked in £32m for Luiz (Spurs were linked), £40m for McGinn (Man Utd linked), £35m for Watkins (Arsenal linked) and £25m for Cash (Atletico linked) that we could buy  players that make a more rounded team for the £133m it raked it. For sure we could get a better striker, centre back, right back and the elusive DM.

I also think that Davis would fit this system better than either Watkins or Ings, and Archer would be a better option to come on too.