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Author Topic: Steven Gerrard - yes or no  (Read 60243 times)

Offline Clive W

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #405 on: November 10, 2021, 07:12:13 PM »
This appointment  - like absolutely any other appointment  - will either work or it won't. No managerial appointment is guaranteed to be a success and our next - regardless of who it is - is no exception. I totally get it that people are concerned that we may be a stepping-stone to Anfield but if Gerrard leaves the club in a better shape than he found it then so be it. For my part I welcome him as a World class player and a man making a name for himself in the cut-throat world of football management. Plenty of top-level ex players have been a success in the dug-out and Gerrard certainly has the air of a man who will handle it - wherever it may be.

Literally no one is saying any choice is a sure thing. Everyone that isn't happy with Gerrard is aware that he could work out fine.

Think of it like betting on the horses, you can either look at the form guide and pick a horse based on how  it's run at the same track in similar conditions, who the jockey is, etc or you can pick the one with a name you like. Which of the 2 gives you the best chance at winning the bet? The people who are a bit annoyed (t varying degrees) by this are concerned that Purslow has done the equivalent of the latter. We may be wrong and there might be some very good reasons why they've gone this way but from the outside it looks a lot like his level of fame has been the decisive factor.
Yes - I agree - its not that we all think its going to be a car crash, but just we should be aiming a lot higher
So who would be your choice?

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #406 on: November 10, 2021, 07:12:21 PM »
If Gerrard is the answer I’m not sure what the question is.
The question who should be Small Heath's next manager.

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #407 on: November 10, 2021, 07:14:26 PM »
This appointment  - like absolutely any other appointment  - will either work or it won't. No managerial appointment is guaranteed to be a success and our next - regardless of who it is - is no exception. I totally get it that people are concerned that we may be a stepping-stone to Anfield but if Gerrard leaves the club in a better shape than he found it then so be it. For my part I welcome him as a World class player and a man making a name for himself in the cut-throat world of football management. Plenty of top-level ex players have been a success in the dug-out and Gerrard certainly has the air of a man who will handle it - wherever it may be.

Literally no one is saying any choice is a sure thing. Everyone that isn't happy with Gerrard is aware that he could work out fine.

Think of it like betting on the horses, you can either look at the form guide and pick a horse based on how  it's run at the same track in similar conditions, who the jockey is, etc or you can pick the one with a name you like. Which of the 2 gives you the best chance at winning the bet? The people who are a bit annoyed (t varying degrees) by this are concerned that Purslow has done the equivalent of the latter. We may be wrong and there might be some very good reasons why they've gone this way but from the outside it looks a lot like his level of fame has been the decisive factor.

Ironically enough, Gerrard doesn't really have a 'track' record bar the equivalent of a few point to point runs around in Glasgow. His European record is a bit more promising. But there is nothing in his CV that suggests he is an upgrade from Smith, far from it in fact.

It's not quite the Sherwood level of a gamble but it ain't far off. Maybe Gerrard keeps us in the division and gets us to an FA cup final like Tactics Timmy did. Gerrard is somewhat brave taking this gig, I will give him credit for that. Fail here, as numerous previous managers have shown, and it's a career killer.

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #408 on: November 10, 2021, 07:14:47 PM »
This appointment  - like absolutely any other appointment  - will either work or it won't. No managerial appointment is guaranteed to be a success and our next - regardless of who it is - is no exception. I totally get it that people are concerned that we may be a stepping-stone to Anfield but if Gerrard leaves the club in a better shape than he found it then so be it. For my part I welcome him as a World class player and a man making a name for himself in the cut-throat world of football management. Plenty of top-level ex players have been a success in the dug-out and Gerrard certainly has the air of a man who will handle it - wherever it may be.

Literally no one is saying any choice is a sure thing. Everyone that isn't happy with Gerrard is aware that he could work out fine.

Think of it like betting on the horses, you can either look at the form guide and pick a horse based on how  it's run at the same track in similar conditions, who the jockey is, etc or you can pick the one with a name you like. Which of the 2 gives you the best chance at winning the bet? The people who are a bit annoyed (t varying degrees) by this are concerned that Purslow has done the equivalent of the latter. We may be wrong and there might be some very good reasons why they've gone this way but from the outside it looks a lot like his level of fame has been the decisive factor.
Yes - I agree - its not that we all think its going to be a car crash, but just we should be aiming a lot higher
So who would be your choice?

That's a tough question to answer because we don't know who they've spoken to or what feedback they've had. That said if they've done their job properly then we should have tried to speak to ten Hag, Favre, Emery, Potter and probably a fair few more.

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #409 on: November 10, 2021, 07:16:10 PM »
I've voted no, but was against John Terry coming here too.  I changed my mind about him so who knows!

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #410 on: November 10, 2021, 07:19:19 PM »
I wonder if he will

Keep the long throws
Bring Guilbert back
play 3 at the back
touch that Anfield sign
Play Watkins & Ings together
make a tachtical sub in the first 45 mins
Ever smile

Return Purslows affections
Get a different haircut
Request Phil Collins on matchdays

Phil Collins for Gerrard:

A Matt Cash throw - In the Air Tonight
Ashley Young penalty - I Missed Again
Klopp gets the sack - Take Me Home
Villa winning the FA Cup - Against All Odds

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #411 on: November 10, 2021, 07:20:32 PM »
The trip to Anfield - Another Day In Paradise

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #412 on: November 10, 2021, 07:21:40 PM »
You’re all sick fuckers admitting to knowing these tunes.

Offline Clive W

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #413 on: November 10, 2021, 07:24:05 PM »
This appointment  - like absolutely any other appointment  - will either work or it won't. No managerial appointment is guaranteed to be a success and our next - regardless of who it is - is no exception. I totally get it that people are concerned that we may be a stepping-stone to Anfield but if Gerrard leaves the club in a better shape than he found it then so be it. For my part I welcome him as a World class player and a man making a name for himself in the cut-throat world of football management. Plenty of top-level ex players have been a success in the dug-out and Gerrard certainly has the air of a man who will handle it - wherever it may be.

Literally no one is saying any choice is a sure thing. Everyone that isn't happy with Gerrard is aware that he could work out fine.

Think of it like betting on the horses, you can either look at the form guide and pick a horse based on how  it's run at the same track in similar conditions, who the jockey is, etc or you can pick the one with a name you like. Which of the 2 gives you the best chance at winning the bet? The people who are a bit annoyed (t varying degrees) by this are concerned that Purslow has done the equivalent of the latter. We may be wrong and there might be some very good reasons why they've gone this way but from the outside it looks a lot like his level of fame has been the decisive factor.
Yes - I agree - its not that we all think its going to be a car crash, but just we should be aiming a lot higher
So who would be your choice?

That's a tough question to answer because we don't know who they've spoken to or what feedback they've had. That said if they've done their job properly then we should have tried to speak to ten Hag, Favre, Emery, Potter and probably a fair few more.
But this is the problem - Favre has been sacked 3 times, Emery twice plus a couple of unexplained resignations. So can these be described as “proven” managers?
And Ten Haag is probably waiting for the Man Utd job. Potter I don’t know about

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #414 on: November 10, 2021, 07:25:08 PM »
You’re all sick fuckers admitting to knowing these tunes.

I agree with Small Rodent.

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #415 on: November 10, 2021, 07:26:15 PM »
Emery has won three UEFA Cups. That's pretty proven.

Online paul_e

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #416 on: November 10, 2021, 07:26:47 PM »
This appointment  - like absolutely any other appointment  - will either work or it won't. No managerial appointment is guaranteed to be a success and our next - regardless of who it is - is no exception. I totally get it that people are concerned that we may be a stepping-stone to Anfield but if Gerrard leaves the club in a better shape than he found it then so be it. For my part I welcome him as a World class player and a man making a name for himself in the cut-throat world of football management. Plenty of top-level ex players have been a success in the dug-out and Gerrard certainly has the air of a man who will handle it - wherever it may be.

Literally no one is saying any choice is a sure thing. Everyone that isn't happy with Gerrard is aware that he could work out fine.

Think of it like betting on the horses, you can either look at the form guide and pick a horse based on how  it's run at the same track in similar conditions, who the jockey is, etc or you can pick the one with a name you like. Which of the 2 gives you the best chance at winning the bet? The people who are a bit annoyed (t varying degrees) by this are concerned that Purslow has done the equivalent of the latter. We may be wrong and there might be some very good reasons why they've gone this way but from the outside it looks a lot like his level of fame has been the decisive factor.
Yes - I agree - its not that we all think its going to be a car crash, but just we should be aiming a lot higher
So who would be your choice?

That's a tough question to answer because we don't know who they've spoken to or what feedback they've had. That said if they've done their job properly then we should have tried to speak to ten Hag, Favre, Emery, Potter and probably a fair few more.
But this is the problem - Favre has been sacked 3 times, Emery twice plus a couple of unexplained resignations. So can these be described as “proven” managers?
And Ten Haag is probably waiting for the Man Utd job. Potter I don’t know about

Again I don't see someone as having been sacked as a negative, if they get sacked in the same circumstances, making the same mistakes then there's some red flags but that doesn't really apply to any of them.

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #417 on: November 10, 2021, 07:28:31 PM »
Every great British manager has been sacked at some point.

Offline Clive W

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #418 on: November 10, 2021, 07:30:18 PM »

Again I don't see someone as having been sacked as a negative, if they get sacked in the same circumstances, making the same mistakes then there's some red flags but that doesn't really apply to any of them.
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I think the same mistakes they made were losing too many matches

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #419 on: November 10, 2021, 07:34:36 PM »
This appointment  - like absolutely any other appointment  - will either work or it won't. No managerial appointment is guaranteed to be a success and our next - regardless of who it is - is no exception. I totally get it that people are concerned that we may be a stepping-stone to Anfield but if Gerrard leaves the club in a better shape than he found it then so be it. For my part I welcome him as a World class player and a man making a name for himself in the cut-throat world of football management. Plenty of top-level ex players have been a success in the dug-out and Gerrard certainly has the air of a man who will handle it - wherever it may be.

You won't get far with that kind of common sense around here.
I know.

 


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