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Author Topic: Steven Gerrard - yes or no  (Read 60736 times)

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #345 on: November 10, 2021, 03:19:13 PM »
Let's just pray he doesn't relegate us.


Carm down carm down

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #346 on: November 10, 2021, 03:23:35 PM »
Looking desperately for positives, he should at least be a good mentor for Ramsey and Chukwuemeka. He also has a nasty streak which to be honest we could do with a little more of, we've been far too nice for too long. Maybe we will get a few refereeing decisions from some fanboy refs too.

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #347 on: November 10, 2021, 03:24:03 PM »
Gerrard questionnaire (no, I didn't make it, Ashley Preece Tweeted it).

https://t.co/78pqVWZ4yU?amp=1

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #348 on: November 10, 2021, 03:24:06 PM »
As I said yesterday I admired him a lot as a player, time will tell on his managerial capabilities.

One thing that maybe overlooked is he should have good pull in attracting some new players in January.


More than Conte, Tuchel, Arteta, Guardiola, Benitez, Bielsa, Rodgers, Moyes, Klopp, Ranieri, Vieira, potentially Lampard, and Man Utd?

Ignoring your irrelevant list, however, he should have more pull than Dean Smith.

Haha, well at least you're honest. Ignore the evidence in front of you.

If we had Favre or ten Hag, I'd understand and agree, but this is someone who has done a bit of semi-succesful managing in Scotland we're talking about.

Smith is very well liked by his players, and he's not been too shabby in terms of the ones he's attracted. I suspect there aren't many players who'd jump to Gerrard based on anything.

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #349 on: November 10, 2021, 03:25:12 PM »
Well, if he does make a success of it he will be the first since GT Mk1 who went on to further their career's after managing us.  A bit of a managerial graveyard is Villa Park.  That has more to do with who has previously been appointed than any conspiracy.

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #350 on: November 10, 2021, 03:25:29 PM »
Gary Mac is favourite to takeover at Rangers, but surely he’s an integral part of the “Gerrard team”?


Gerrard and Mac I can just about handle ( just )  . Gerrard and the Nanny  , pleaseeeeeee nnnooooooooooo

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #351 on: November 10, 2021, 03:28:58 PM »

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #352 on: November 10, 2021, 03:37:26 PM »
Gary Mac is favourite to takeover at Rangers, but surely he’s an integral part of the “Gerrard team”?


Gerrard and Mac I can just about handle ( just )  . Gerrard and the Nanny  , pleaseeeeeee nnnooooooooooo

Rangers are after Gattuso aren't they?

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #353 on: November 10, 2021, 03:45:11 PM »
Rangers are after Gattuso aren't they?

Or Lampard or Jon Dahl Tomasson or Giovanni van Bronckhorst or Deano or Colin.

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #354 on: November 10, 2021, 03:46:38 PM »
if he gets the job, I wont be listening to any manager interviews as I cannot stand hearing that bloody scouse accent.

As I said yesterday, it is a pity we can't judge people based on their record and have to bring so much pejorative stuff about where they are from, how they speak etc.

My problem is there's not enough record to judge.
In his defence, when he took over "Rangers" they'd just finished 3rd (behind Aberdeen).  I mean, they'd finished 3rd in a two horse race, 2 seasons on the trot.  Their then manager was in a bush in Luxembourg arguing with fans after they'd just been knocked out of Europe by some obscure side from that country. 

Now they look like they'll qualify for the knockout rounds of the UEFA Cup, and have won the Scottish Premier League unbeaten.  He's broken the club record for a winning streak that's been in place since 1906.  Each season he's been in charge, they've scored more goals than they did the season before, and conceded fewer.  It's not really fair on the lad to say that he's not got a record to judge.  He's still a young & inexperienced manager, but he's done pretty well there IMO.

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #355 on: November 10, 2021, 03:51:52 PM »
Is there actually any more to this story than there was yesterday?

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #356 on: November 10, 2021, 03:52:22 PM »
It is basically  six possible outcomes to a mathematical probability problem.

1.  Klopp continues to succeed at Liverpool.  Klopp stays.
2.  Gerrard does well at Villa.  Klopp staying so Villa keep Gerrard.
3.  Klopp falters at Liverpool. Liverpool seek new manager
4.  Gerrard doing well at Villa.  Liverpool sign Gerrard.
5.  Gerrard doing badly at Villa.  Liverpool do not sign Gerrard.
6.  Gerrard and Klopp are both replaced at Villa and Liverpool by managers who are not Gerrard or Klopp.

The precis is that if Gerrard does well with us we lose him.  If he does badly we keep him.

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #357 on: November 10, 2021, 03:53:03 PM »
Is there actually any more to this story than there was yesterday?

He got off a train at Euston.

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #358 on: November 10, 2021, 03:53:29 PM »
Interesting reads: https://www.skysports.com/football/story-telling/11788/12236762/the-evolution-of-gerrards-rangers; https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/mar/07/steven-gerrard-pressure-rangers-champions.

Good reads, both. Thanks.

Yes, the detail of the Sky report especially.

Indeed. The Sky report did nothing to convince me he's the right man for the job, quite the opposite in fact. He certainly won't be given the time he had up there and will be expected to hit the ground running. The only crumb of comfort is we have a bloody good squad for him to work with from Day 1.

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Re: Steven Gerrard - yes or no
« Reply #359 on: November 10, 2021, 03:58:38 PM »
Is there actually any more to this story than there was yesterday?

He got off a train at Euston.

He's now 25/1 on to be our next manager with 3 bookies. Jack was only 7/1 on to leave when he did go.

 


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