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Offline Villan82

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2175 on: November 09, 2021, 03:02:07 PM »
We all like Dean and wish it had worked out. He wasn't sacked because we weren't top half, he was sacked because we are averaging less than a point per game and were heading for the relegation zone if it continued. We have also had a poor 2021 overall with 18 defeats in 35.

He wasn't sacked because he wasn't in the top half, he was sacked because for 11 months we stopped progressing.
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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2176 on: November 09, 2021, 03:02:30 PM »
Purslow bringing in Gerrard would be like when Doug appointed DOL because they'd met previously at the airport.

This does have a whiff of the Ellisian about it.

Hopefully more Elysian than Ellisian.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2177 on: November 09, 2021, 03:02:48 PM »
Is Scouse actually nice? I'm not sure I've ever met someone who has eaten it.

Yep, it's just a stew like Lancashire Hotpot. Nice and filling on a cold evening.

I've always assumed (based on nothing) that it's sausage-based. Is it sausage based?

Another lowbrow joke has become available, but it's a genuine question!

Nope, it's pieces of lamb with slow-cooked veg like potatoes and carrots, in a stew/cassarole. Usually served with (pickled) red cabbage on the side. I'm certain that everybody would have had something similar in their lives at some point. We used to make a big saucepan full of stuff like that when I was at uni, as it was cheap and filling.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2178 on: November 09, 2021, 03:03:45 PM »
Are we as fans too scared of what happened with the bad appointments of managers since O Neil upto Deano to see this rationally.
We know we have the players to be in a better position than we are. Gerrard is having a bad press on this thread but maybe he will bring fresh ideas and enthusiasm. He may not, but there is no guarantee any appointment.

Again this is true but part of getting things right is to judge them.

It's a gamble and, like any gamble, people who study and understand the game/sport and make decisions based statistics and experience win much more often than the people who pick a horse in the grand national because they like the name. The vast majority of people putting Gerrard forward are doing the latter.

It’s a gamble not sacking Dean, a gamble keeping him and a gamble whoever replaces him. The timing I think they’ve got right as far too often we have tended to hang in there.
I'm hoping the calibre of players we have this time compared to the last relegation will be a big factor in us improving. There was much pleasure in seeing Arsenal struggling last season but in the end finished above us. Chelsea muddled along until they swapped Lampard with Tuchel then went on to win the Champions League with the same players.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2179 on: November 09, 2021, 03:05:37 PM »
Is Scouse actually nice? I'm not sure I've ever met someone who has eaten it.

Yep, it's just a stew like Lancashire Hotpot. Nice and filling on a cold evening.

I've always assumed (based on nothing) that it's sausage-based. Is it sausage based?

Another lowbrow joke has become available, but it's a genuine question!

Nope, it's pieces of lamb with slow-cooked veg like potatoes and carrots, in a stew/cassarole. Usually served with (pickled) red cabbage on the side. I'm certain that everybody would have had something similar in their lives at some point. We used to make a big saucepan full of stuff like that when I was at uni, as it was cheap and filling.

I thought you were referring to Andrew Flintoff in your first post Risso.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2180 on: November 09, 2021, 03:08:22 PM »
Is Scouse actually nice? I'm not sure I've ever met someone who has eaten it.

Yep, it's just a stew like Lancashire Hotpot. Nice and filling on a cold evening.

I've always assumed (based on nothing) that it's sausage-based. Is it sausage based?

Another lowbrow joke has become available, but it's a genuine question!

Nope, it's pieces of lamb with slow-cooked veg like potatoes and carrots, in a stew/cassarole. Usually served with (pickled) red cabbage on the side. I'm certain that everybody would have had something similar in their lives at some point. We used to make a big saucepan full of stuff like that when I was at uni, as it was cheap and filling.

Sounds good!

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2181 on: November 09, 2021, 03:08:56 PM »
We all like Dean and wish it had worked out. He wasn't sacked because we weren't top half, he was sacked because we are averaging less than a point per game and were heading for the relegation zone if it continued. We have also had a poor 2018 overall with 18 defeats in 35.

He wasn't sacked because he wasn't in the top half, he was sacked because for 11 months we stopped progressing.
Agreed - and if the rest of the season, we don't see progress from where we are now to the top half, the same thing can be fairly landed at the new managers door

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2182 on: November 09, 2021, 03:09:26 PM »
Purslow bringing in Gerrard would be like when Doug appointed DOL because they'd met previously at the airport.

This does have a whiff of the Ellisian about it.

Hopefully more Elysian than Ellisian.

God, could two words be more poles apart in their meaning.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2183 on: November 09, 2021, 03:13:31 PM »
2. I work with competitors of the Economist and you'd be amazed at how many staff they have in seemingly unrelated fields so I found the idea totally unsurprising

Tangent here, but The Economist employ a big tech team in Brum. Poached some of our staff recently.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2184 on: November 09, 2021, 03:13:35 PM »
Purslow bringing in Gerrard would be like when Doug appointed DOL because they'd met previously at the airport.

This does have a whiff of the Ellisian about it.

Hopefully more Elysian than Ellisian.
You're Bonzo Johnson, and I claim my £5.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2185 on: November 09, 2021, 03:19:13 PM »
The club is very obviously moving away from the old football manager way of doing things, which is why Smith was called "Head Coach" and why they've brought in the new fangled ideas people like Danks and MacPhee. My guess is that they think that somebody younger like Gerrard will be more receptive to that way of working.

His only experience is as an old-school, controls everything manager at Sevco though?

I don't know. Looking at their wiki page, they have all sorts of technical sounding positions, like "Head of Performance Analysis", "Technical Coach", "Head of Preparation" etc so they may think that Gerrard is already working in the same sort of structure that they're trying to create.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2186 on: November 09, 2021, 03:24:05 PM »
The club is very obviously moving away from the old football manager way of doing things, which is why Smith was called "Head Coach" and why they've brought in the new fangled ideas people like Danks and MacPhee. My guess is that they think that somebody younger like Gerrard will be more receptive to that way of working.

His only experience is as an old-school, controls everything manager at Sevco though?

I don't know. Looking at their wiki page, they have all sorts of technical sounding positions, like "Head of Performance Analysis", "Technical Coach", "Head of Preparation" etc so they may think that Gerrard is already working in the same sort of structure that they're trying to create.

But he's above them in the hierarchy. That wouldn't be the case with Lange here.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2187 on: November 09, 2021, 03:25:36 PM »
so my Glasgow mate rings me up . I obviously ask him , if he is going .

replies Nah

I said do you rate him ..  he replies of course I do .

Well down here looks like hes coming .

He replies he aint going nowhere and If he goes there will be riots .
he said they have great results in Europe not that will bother Villa and  the football is entertaining .

but as we know hes playing a few poor teams really.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2188 on: November 09, 2021, 03:28:10 PM »
so my Glasgow mate rings me up . I obviously ask him , if he is going .

replies Nah

I said do you rate him ..  he replies of course I do .

Well down here looks like hes coming .

He replies he aint going nowhere and If he goes there will be riots .
he said they have great results in Europe not that will bother Villa and  the football is entertaining .

but as we know hes playing a few poor teams really.

Hmm what would be worse, appointing him, or him turning us down

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2189 on: November 09, 2021, 03:30:16 PM »
Turning us down would clearly please most on here as he would not be coming. I can't see us approaching him if he isn't on board though.

 


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