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Offline Three Spires Villa

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1875 on: November 09, 2021, 05:07:29 AM »
I'm worried that we might not have our Villa back if we appoint Gerrard.

I've no doubt he'll say he loved Villa Park, massive club etc but the reality is he'll be using us as a stepping stone to another club. Which fucks me off.

I thought having “our Villa back” was more linked to owners than any head coach? I’m not sure what “having our Villa back” means. We haven’t got Villa back if SG is head coach, but we did with Dean? Is it because Dean is a Villa fan, or a head coach some people like?

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1876 on: November 09, 2021, 06:18:12 AM »
Whats gerrards transfer record like ?

If im not mistaken he has signed some relatively cheap players that have turned iut to be great.

I just hope we dont go for that maniac moreles if Gerrard is appointed

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1877 on: November 09, 2021, 06:33:08 AM »
I don't get this concern over Villa being used as a stepping stone.
Anyone, player or manager will attract interest if they perform well as has always been the case so why worry?
Whoever takes over and is hopefully successful will get noticed by the next level of team. Its the way its always been.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1878 on: November 09, 2021, 06:35:09 AM »
Another worry is Rangers finances are in a bit of a mess again, so a big pay off maybe something they would welcome.

Offline villa for life

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1879 on: November 09, 2021, 06:38:58 AM »
I don't get this concern over Villa being used as a stepping stone.
Anyone, player or manager will attract interest if they perform well as has always been the case so why worry?
Whoever takes over and is hopefully successful will get noticed by the next level of team. Its the way its always been.


Exactly! Gerrard would have to make us into a top 6 club for Liverpool to be interested in him. And if he did do that and left, we’d be able to attract an elite manager as Spurs have done.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1880 on: November 09, 2021, 06:57:03 AM »
I don't know, plenty of clubs have jumped at hiring their former heroes with little or no management experience, Fwank and Ole for example.  So long as he didn't relegate us, I can still see Gerrard being the next 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' boss.  And the thought of a Stevie G homecoming at Anfield as an opposition manager - Jesus nooooo.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1881 on: November 09, 2021, 06:58:12 AM »
I think Gerrard is number one choice anyway.

I’d find it really strange if we’d planned for that, it would seem to be just as big a risk as giving Dean another 10 games.
Agreed, I can’t believe they’d sack a popular coach for an underwhelming replacement, surely.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1882 on: November 09, 2021, 06:59:31 AM »
I don't get this concern over Villa being used as a stepping stone.
Anyone, player or manager will attract interest if they perform well as has always been the case so why worry?
Whoever takes over and is hopefully successful will get noticed by the next level of team. Its the way its always been.


Exactly! Gerrard would have to make us into a top 6 club for Liverpool to be interested in him. And if he did do that and left, we’d be able to attract an elite manager as Spurs have done.

Appointing a scouser to manage Villa would just be a hard pill to swallow. But that’s a personal issue.

The bigger issue for me is why Gerrard the manager? He is an untested quantity at the PL level, he has limited experience as a manager full stop, he has not yet shown he can handle the pressure commensurate with a club like Villa - basically it would be another Lambert like appointment (he had done well at Norwich etc) and IMO would be a disaster. Rangers are a big club in a tin pot league - success there at best is akin to success in the Championship.

I just don’t get the appeal.

Surely to god, we have higher ambition.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1883 on: November 09, 2021, 07:01:38 AM »
Gerrard is a bigger gamble than keeping Dean.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1884 on: November 09, 2021, 07:04:40 AM »
I don't get this concern over Villa being used as a stepping stone.
Anyone, player or manager will attract interest if they perform well as has always been the case so why worry?
Whoever takes over and is hopefully successful will get noticed by the next level of team. Its the way its always been.


Exactly! Gerrard would have to make us into a top 6 club for Liverpool to be interested in him. And if he did do that and left, we’d be able to attract an elite manager as Spurs have done.

Appointing a scouser to manage Villa would just be a hard pill to swallow. But that’s a personal issue.

The bigger issue for me is why Gerrard the manager? He is an untested quantity at the PL level, he has limited experience as a manager full stop, he has not yet shown he can handle the pressure commensurate with a club like Villa - basically it would be another Lambert like appointment (he had done well at Norwich etc) and IMO would be a disaster. Rangers are a big club in a tin pot league - success there at best is akin to success in the Championship.

I just don’t get the appeal.

Surely to god, we have higher ambition.
Completely agree, he has not had the experience of dealing with a run of defeats for example, because in Scotland managing Rangers that’s almost impossible.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1885 on: November 09, 2021, 07:05:33 AM »
It is a Purslow vanity project. I don't think it will be a disaster, but this is driven by one man's ego.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1886 on: November 09, 2021, 07:05:48 AM »
Get Potter in and get him to bring Bissouma with him

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1887 on: November 09, 2021, 07:11:16 AM »
I don't get this concern over Villa being used as a stepping stone.
Anyone, player or manager will attract interest if they perform well as has always been the case so why worry?
Whoever takes over and is hopefully successful will get noticed by the next level of team. Its the way its always been.


Exactly! Gerrard would have to make us into a top 6 club for Liverpool to be interested in him. And if he did do that and left, we’d be able to attract an elite manager as Spurs have done.

Appointing a scouser to manage Villa would just be a hard pill to swallow. But that’s a personal issue.

The bigger issue for me is why Gerrard the manager? He is an untested quantity at the PL level, he has limited experience as a manager full stop, he has not yet shown he can handle the pressure commensurate with a club like Villa - basically it would be another Lambert like appointment (he had done well at Norwich etc) and IMO would be a disaster. Rangers are a big club in a tin pot league - success there at best is akin to success in the Championship.

I just don’t get the appeal.

Surely to god, we have higher ambition.
I'd hope so.
Steven Gerrard would be a punt as he's probably the least experienced out of all of the candidates I've seen.
 Whoever gets the privilege of managing us I'll support but I'm not worrying about his future employment with others.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1888 on: November 09, 2021, 07:13:17 AM »
Get Potter in and get him to bring Bissouma with him

If Bissouma was with us then I don't think Deano loses his job. But yes please!

Offline Three Spires Villa

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1889 on: November 09, 2021, 07:29:05 AM »
I don't get this concern over Villa being used as a stepping stone.
Anyone, player or manager will attract interest if they perform well as has always been the case so why worry?
Whoever takes over and is hopefully successful will get noticed by the next level of team. Its the way its always been.


Exactly! Gerrard would have to make us into a top 6 club for Liverpool to be interested in him. And if he did do that and left, we’d be able to attract an elite manager as Spurs have done.

Appointing a scouser to manage Villa would just be a hard pill to swallow. But that’s a personal issue.

The bigger issue for me is why Gerrard the manager? He is an untested quantity at the PL level, he has limited experience as a manager full stop, he has not yet shown he can handle the pressure commensurate with a club like Villa - basically it would be another Lambert like appointment (he had done well at Norwich etc) and IMO would be a disaster. Rangers are a big club in a tin pot league - success there at best is akin to success in the Championship.

I just don’t get the appeal.

Surely to god, we have higher ambition.

Dean Smith had never managed in the Premier league, never had the pressure of managing a big club, but virtually everyone welcomed him with open arms. Was it because he was a Villa fan? Dean had never got a team promoted and his highest finish was 11th. That appointment turned out ok. I am not saying that I want SG as manager / head coach, but some of the things I read are strange considering we took a gamble on (at the time) a mid championship manager.

 


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