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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1845 on: November 08, 2021, 11:40:06 PM »
Mistake....this is turning into a complete shit show. Stevie fucking G and his one SPL title....McLeish won two and at a time when both Glasgow clubs were a lot stronger.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1846 on: November 08, 2021, 11:43:57 PM »
Nobody is suggesting Stevie G as player manager are they, at least not yet.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1847 on: November 08, 2021, 11:45:11 PM »
Gerrard has never managed in the SPL. I don't like being a pedant*, but you people keep forcing me into it.


*I do.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1848 on: November 08, 2021, 11:47:27 PM »
What's with this 'command respect' bollocks? He's a 'winner'. I don't care what he has done as a player, it means next to nothing. Roy Keane should 'command respect' and is a 'winner' but it turns out he's a pretty shit coach.

Side note: the odd mention of Lampard bringing through youth at Chelsea, wasn't this because they had an embargo so he had no choice?

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1849 on: November 08, 2021, 11:47:33 PM »
We shouldn’t write off  any* manager off before they’ve even walked through the door.

There’s a selection of the fan base that continue to have the temerity to write people off before they’ve had chance to prove themselves. Those that scoff at what Gerrard has achieved had absolutely no problem welcoming Dean Smith with open arms  despite having never finished above 11th in the Championship.

Those that claim they dislike the Liverpool connection will be the same people that will foam at the mouth when Grealish doesn’t clap the Holte end when he reappears in November. It’s blinkered, it’s weird, it’s not what we should be about. I get people have opinions and that’s what makes reading and participating in fan forums good but please let’s just get behind whoever is appointed.

FWIW I think Gerrard is a winner, he commands respect, he would bring with him a top class coaching set up and, if it happens, we should get right fucking behind him.


*everyone except Sam Allardyce

For a winner he hasn't, y'know, won much.

Every domestic honour more than twice over bar the big one, European cup, UEFA cup and European Super cup.  But yeah - not much
Shit didn’t realise Rangers won the champions league  😂.





Sorry only joking

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1850 on: November 08, 2021, 11:48:51 PM »
We shouldn’t write off  any* manager off before they’ve even walked through the door.

There’s a selection of the fan base that continue to have the temerity to write people off before they’ve had chance to prove themselves. Those that scoff at what Gerrard has achieved had absolutely no problem welcoming Dean Smith with open arms  despite having never finished above 11th in the Championship.

Those that claim they dislike the Liverpool connection will be the same people that will foam at the mouth when Grealish doesn’t clap the Holte end when he reappears in November. It’s blinkered, it’s weird, it’s not what we should be about. I get people have opinions and that’s what makes reading and participating in fan forums good but please let’s just get behind whoever is appointed.

FWIW I think Gerrard is a winner, he commands respect, he would bring with him a top class coaching set up and, if it happens, we should get right fucking behind him.


*everyone except Sam Allardyce

For a winner he hasn't, y'know, won much.

With Liverpool  - FA cup (x2), Football League Cup (x3), FA Charity Shield, European Cup, UEFA Cup, European Super Cup

But apart from that…what have the Romans done for us?

And since 1996 we have won…what exactly?

Discounting his playing career, because it's completely irrelevant, he has won one trophy. In three years.

Not sure if I've mentioned it, but St Johnstone manager Callum Davidson won twice as many trophies in one year.

The idea that Gerrard is in any way a successful manager stems back, yet again, to pathetic Liverpool fanwankery.

I'm well aware of how long it is since Villa last won a trophy, that's why I'd rather we appointed the best manager possible to end the drought, rather than getting gooey-eyed with excitement over someone because they used to play for Liverpool.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2021, 11:52:05 PM by cdbullyweefan »

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1851 on: November 08, 2021, 11:50:20 PM »
Gerrard would be an utterly fucking boneheaded appointment which would make me think the real problem here is Purslow.

What is the fucking point in an appointment like that?

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1852 on: November 08, 2021, 11:52:04 PM »
Side note: the odd mention of Lampard bringing through youth at Chelsea, wasn't this because they had an embargo so he had no choice?

But that’s why he got the job, he’d done well at Derby bringing through young players and that was what Chelsea needed in those circumstances

He’d make more sense as an appointment than Gerrard. But not much

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1853 on: November 08, 2021, 11:54:00 PM »
Because he's a mate from their days at another club. There's no other reason, old boys network. Sacking a Villa man, albeit a failing one, for a inexperienced Non league manager because he's mate with the chief exec. Fucking shit.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1854 on: November 08, 2021, 11:57:01 PM »
We shouldn’t write off  any* manager off before they’ve even walked through the door.

There’s a selection of the fan base that continue to have the temerity to write people off before they’ve had chance to prove themselves. Those that scoff at what Gerrard has achieved had absolutely no problem welcoming Dean Smith with open arms  despite having never finished above 11th in the Championship.

Those that claim they dislike the Liverpool connection will be the same people that will foam at the mouth when Grealish doesn’t clap the Holte end when he reappears in November. It’s blinkered, it’s weird, it’s not what we should be about. I get people have opinions and that’s what makes reading and participating in fan forums good but please let’s just get behind whoever is appointed.

FWIW I think Gerrard is a winner, he commands respect, he would bring with him a top class coaching set up and, if it happens, we should get right fucking behind him.


*everyone except Sam Allardyce

For a winner he hasn't, y'know, won much.

With Liverpool  - FA cup (x2), Football League Cup (x3), FA Charity Shield, European Cup, UEFA Cup, European Super Cup

But apart from that…what have the Romans done for us?

And since 1996 we have won…what exactly?

Discounting his playing career, because it's completely irrelevant, he has won one trophy. In three years.

Not sure if I've mentioned it, but St Johnstone manager Callum Davidson won twice as many trophies in one year.

The idea that Gerrard is in any way a successful manager stems back, yet again, to pathetic Liverpool fanwankery.

I'm well aware of how long it is since Villa last won a trophy, that's why I'd rather we appointed the best manager possible to end the drought, rather than getting gooey-eyed with excitement over someone because they used to play for Liverpool.

I wasn’t suggesting for one minute that Gerrard would be a good choice - I was merely countering the suggestion (ludicrous in my view) that he is not a “winner”

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1855 on: November 08, 2021, 11:58:21 PM »
Side note: the odd mention of Lampard bringing through youth at Chelsea, wasn't this because they had an embargo so he had no choice?

But that’s why he got the job, he’d done well at Derby bringing through young players and that was what Chelsea needed in those circumstances

He’d make more sense as an appointment than Gerrard. But not much

But it doesn't necessarily mean it is a philosophy of his which he would continue if he had the funds. I mean it might be but I'm not sure it can be stated that it's his way just yet.

Signing Gerrard just lacks ambition for me. It could work out great and hopefully it does but it won't change what it feels like now. There is some revisionism on when Moyes went back to West Ham but 95% of fans laughed when it happened and another 4% were pissed off Hammers. If it happens then hopefully it works out just as well.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1856 on: November 09, 2021, 12:00:08 AM »
Sack the Board!

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1857 on: November 09, 2021, 12:00:10 AM »
We shouldn’t write off  any* manager off before they’ve even walked through the door.

There’s a selection of the fan base that continue to have the temerity to write people off before they’ve had chance to prove themselves. Those that scoff at what Gerrard has achieved had absolutely no problem welcoming Dean Smith with open arms  despite having never finished above 11th in the Championship.

Those that claim they dislike the Liverpool connection will be the same people that will foam at the mouth when Grealish doesn’t clap the Holte end when he reappears in November. It’s blinkered, it’s weird, it’s not what we should be about. I get people have opinions and that’s what makes reading and participating in fan forums good but please let’s just get behind whoever is appointed.

FWIW I think Gerrard is a winner, he commands respect, he would bring with him a top class coaching set up and, if it happens, we should get right fucking behind him.


*everyone except Sam Allardyce

For a winner he hasn't, y'know, won much.

With Liverpool  - FA cup (x2), Football League Cup (x3), FA Charity Shield, European Cup, UEFA Cup, European Super Cup

But apart from that…what have the Romans done for us?

And since 1996 we have won…what exactly?

Discounting his playing career, because it's completely irrelevant, he has won one trophy. In three years.

Not sure if I've mentioned it, but St Johnstone manager Callum Davidson won twice as many trophies in one year.

The idea that Gerrard is in any way a successful manager stems back, yet again, to pathetic Liverpool fanwankery.

I'm well aware of how long it is since Villa last won a trophy, that's why I'd rather we appointed the best manager possible to end the drought, rather than getting gooey-eyed with excitement over someone because they used to play for Liverpool.

I wasn’t suggesting for one minute that Gerrard would be a good choice - I was merely countering the suggestion (ludicrous in my view) that he is not a “winner”

But isn't it obvious people are referring to his managerial career? Surely it's just a given in this discussion?

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1858 on: November 09, 2021, 12:06:41 AM »
We shouldn’t write off  any* manager off before they’ve even walked through the door.

There’s a selection of the fan base that continue to have the temerity to write people off before they’ve had chance to prove themselves. Those that scoff at what Gerrard has achieved had absolutely no problem welcoming Dean Smith with open arms  despite having never finished above 11th in the Championship.

Those that claim they dislike the Liverpool connection will be the same people that will foam at the mouth when Grealish doesn’t clap the Holte end when he reappears in November. It’s blinkered, it’s weird, it’s not what we should be about. I get people have opinions and that’s what makes reading and participating in fan forums good but please let’s just get behind whoever is appointed.

FWIW I think Gerrard is a winner, he commands respect, he would bring with him a top class coaching set up and, if it happens, we should get right fucking behind him.


*everyone except Sam Allardyce

For a winner he hasn't, y'know, won much.

With Liverpool  - FA cup (x2), Football League Cup (x3), FA Charity Shield, European Cup, UEFA Cup, European Super Cup

But apart from that…what have the Romans done for us?

And since 1996 we have won…what exactly?

Discounting his playing career, because it's completely irrelevant, he has won one trophy. In three years.

Not sure if I've mentioned it, but St Johnstone manager Callum Davidson won twice as many trophies in one year.

The idea that Gerrard is in any way a successful manager stems back, yet again, to pathetic Liverpool fanwankery.

I'm well aware of how long it is since Villa last won a trophy, that's why I'd rather we appointed the best manager possible to end the drought, rather than getting gooey-eyed with excitement over someone because they used to play for Liverpool.

I wasn’t suggesting for one minute that Gerrard would be a good choice - I was merely countering the suggestion (ludicrous in my view) that he is not a “winner”

Fair enough, but there is no evidence that he is "a winner" in managerial terms. Certainly not more so than, say, Alex McLeish, who won eight trophies in five years at Ibrox.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1859 on: November 09, 2021, 12:12:27 AM »
The whole thing could be some elaborate smokescreen* while the owners are sorting it under the radar. Why get rid of nearly all the back room staff BEFORE formally approaching another club for their manager (Rangers for Gerrard according to the Evening Mail & the Express)? Unless I'm missing something. Checked John Percy on Twitter: no new Villa news.

*at least I hope so!
« Last Edit: November 09, 2021, 12:14:51 AM by Behind Bluenose Lines »

 


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