Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

[LeeB]

We had 2 scouse managers that did ok or was it because their names were both Ron. Villa almost has this supernatural ability to the past. So a scouse manager might just work. Although Ron Saunders was from Birkenhead.

Actually I read up on this yesterday, and I believe your scouse if you're from Birkenhead, while Liverpool you're a plastic scouser*.


*could be talking bollocks

If Ellesmere Port counts as scouse then you can also include Graham Turner and Joe Mercer.

Who was the other scouse Ron?

Big Ron was born in Liverpool.

[Monty]

The only questions to ask are:

1) would we be looking twice at Gerrard if he weren't a famous player? and if so

2) what in his playing career compensates for the absence of evidence as to his coaching ability?

Given the answer to 1) is clearly 'no', let's look at 2). He was a famously brilliant, improvising, free-wheeling and tactically ill-disciplined player, an individualist. How many of those make great managers? Even among top players who make top managers, they tend to be like Guardiola, Ancelotti, Conte, Beckenbauer, ultimate team-players and tactical reference-points. Even Cruyff was the least individual of the great individuals, playing his role in total football.

Nothing in Gerrard's career points to his making it as a top coach. Which doesn't mean he won't, it's just that there's no evidence to support that he will. So we'd just be hiring him because he's famous.

[KNVillan]

We had 2 scouse managers that did ok or was it because their names were both Ron. Villa almost has this supernatural ability to the past. So a scouse manager might just work. Although Ron Saunders was from Birkenhead.

Actually I read up on this yesterday, and I believe your scouse if you're from Birkenhead, while Liverpool you're a plastic scouser*.


*could be talking bollocks

If Ellesmere Port counts as scouse then you can also include Graham Turner and Joe Mercer.

Who was the other scouse Ron?

Ron Atkinson is the other one

LeeB beat me to it

[cdbearsfan]

Houllier was effectively Scouse, if you don't limit it to purely where they were born.

[aev]

AVB was furious about Sanson being sold wasn't he and essentially walked on Marseille due to it?

AVB would be an interesting appointment.

Excellent win percentages wherever he has been, though some of them may not be the toughest gigs in the world.

Martinez over achieved at Wigan, and I can't remember what he was like at Everton. Not been a club manager in 5 years though - does that matter?

[LeeB]

Fucking Steven Gerrard for fucks sake's. It would be mark us down as a second rate feeder club.

It may be the truth but you don't have to say it so loudly.

Someone needs to send Purslow a clip of us wishing him happy birthday with much glee at the semi final.

[LukeJames]

AVB would be a disaster, fuck that!

Edit... I may be getting him mixed up with Marco Silva.

[Drummond]

On ts the villa fans who called in have said they want Gerrard.  One even said he wants Lampard.  Jesus

Lampard would be a absolute disaster and ia no upgrade on smith. Id have rather have kept Smith than Lampard.

Hell no to frank

He's done a great job with Brentford though?

[Drummond]

One thing, above all else, is we need to learn from Tottenham and make sure, at least publicly, we get our first choice manager. Once we start offering and being turned down, we are dead in the water. How you do this when going after managers already in a job, asking permission to talk to them then the obvious leaks, I don't know.

Living locally, I can tell you the Brighton fans have no expectations that he will leave in what they see as a sideways move. Do we really want a manager who would do the dirty on an incumbent club?

They think Brighton to Aston Villa is a sideways move? We all love our own clubs equally but that is straight up delusional.

Not if you look at the table it isn't..... (but obviously it is)

[LeeB]

AVB would be a disaster, fuck that!

I'm not sure he would, but there's that stain of being a figure of ridicule over here that would be difficult to shift.

Also with Unai Emery, a man who appears to be a fine and capable manager, unfortunately in English he has a thin, reedy voice, is a bit goofy and has a kind of Michael Howard 'something of the night' vibe. As shallow as it is, I think that did for him as much as any footballing reason.

[SaddVillan]

Nuno
Lampard
Gerrard
Rooney
Pearson
Big Sam
Farke
Hassenhutl
Dyche

None of the above.

[JUAN PABLO]

AVB was furious about Sanson being sold wasn't he and essentially walked on Marseille due to it?

Another odd thing why Dean Smith never played him . 

[villabear]

I remember how I felt when we were looking at Dean taking over. Villa fan, nice football, excited.

Can’t help being massively underwhelmed with the names being banded about.

Let’s hope the owners ambitions mean we’re going to be surprised with a top coach. Gut feeling is it’s going to be someone off the manager merry go round.

[DeKuip]

Of all the realistic names mentioned I think the best fit for us at the moment is Lampard. Knows the league well, did well at Derby in his first job and had an outstanding season with Chelsea, putting faith in young talent and playing exciting football. The fact it didn’t go so well in his second season is an experience his next club could benefit from.
He’s done an apprenticeship now it’s time for a proper job.
Gerrard needs a few years in League One or the Championship after serving his apprenticeship in Sunday League football.

[passport1]

AVB would be a disaster, fuck that!

I'm not sure he would, but there's that stain of being a figure of ridicule over here that would be difficult to shift.

AVB would be a disaster, fuck that!

I'm not sure he would, but there's that stain of being a figure of ridicule over here that would be difficult to shift.

Also with Unai Emery, a man who appears to be a fine and capable manager, unfortunately in English he has a thin, reedy voice, is a bit goofy and has a kind of Michael Howard 'something of the night' vibe. As shallow as it is, I think that did for him as much as any footballing reason.

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A slightly sleazy used car sales man always came into my mind.