Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

[Dave]

If Spurs can get Conte, I'd ask why Villa couldn't get somebody of that ilk too.

Similar to Man City getting Guardiola, it didn't just happen - it's the end result of months of setting the structue of the club up in such a way that its designed for him, and it sees the people who were previously in charge accepting that they are going to be pushed out of the day-to-day running of the club.

[cdward]

I don't want to be a Frank Lampards Aston Villa, or Steven Gerrards Aston Villa. I would love to see someone like AVB, PL experience, CL experience, experienced enough to be his own man, but relatively young and success driven.
I'm just glad we've moved on from the Mark Hughes, Steve McLaren, Sam Allardyce usual suspects

[chrisw1]

I don't think Gerrard would be right, but I'm a bit surprised by the levels of personal dislike for him on here.

To me he just came accross as a combative, excellent midfielder.  I'd have no problem with his personality whatsover.  His limited management experience is what would primarily put me off and I have to admit "Gerrards Aston Villa" would also grate a bit.  I'd expect him to be professional enough not to fall into the fawning over Liverpool trap but I wouldn't have a problem with a few complimentary words here and there building up to a fixture against them.  If he had done well enough for Liverpool to then want him as their next manager then surely that means we would be on the right track, which can't be that bad a thing?

So it would be a 'no' from me, but probably not for the same reasons as a number of people seem to have.  And if we did go for him I'd be 100% behind him and pretty excited to see what he could achieve.

[ozzjim]

AVB was furious about Sanson being sold wasn't he and essentially walked on Marseille due to it?

[SoccerHQ]

Remember Houllier's press conference when he joined? When he started talking about Liverpool and how this job wasn't in the same league as Liverpool manager?

Or when we played at Anfield and he tapped the sign over the tunnel? That?

With Gerrard we would be getting that sort of vibe, only much stronger, with the added impetus of the Liverpool job being in his future rather than his past.

No thanks.

I'm pretty sure Dave Woodhall has posted in the past of amount of players and managers we appoint who don't realise what a big club we actually are behind the scenes until they sign for us.

Obviously they come and play v us and VP is impressive ground but only when you're a player/manager would you get a feel of what the training ground and other parts of the ground are like. Didn't Dean Saunders once say we could be as big as Liverpool, we just don't believe it?

Think it would be great to get a manager who gets it all straight away and is confident enough to pitch that to future new signings...rather than just downplaying it and making us feel like underdogs all the time as Steve Bruce did.

A Ron Atkinson type somewhere in his 40s-50s would be brilliant as he got what we were about exactly. Probably O'Neill did aswell and they had the status to get reasonably big name players interested in joining us aswell.

[SoccerHQ]

If Spurs can get Conte, I'd ask why Villa couldn't get somebody of that ilk too.

Similar to Man City getting Guardiola, it didn't just happen - it's the end result of months of setting the structue of the club up in such a way that its designed for him, and it sees the people who were previously in charge accepting that they are going to be pushed out of the day-to-day running of the club.

THink difference aswell is for all their faults Spurs have qualified for some form of european competition since 2009 whereas that was the year we last played in knock outs of europa competition.

Think that would play on mind of any manager of Conte ilk e.g. even when things go wrong at Spurs they're still not that far off top 6 whereas for us loads of things have got to go right for us to be making europe in a season.

[Demitri_C]

On ts the villa fans who called in have said they want Gerrard.  One even said he wants Lampard.  Jesus

Lampard would be a absolute disaster and ia no upgrade on smith. Id have rather have kept Smith than Lampard.

Hell no to frank

[Percy McCarthy]

We had 2 scouse managers that did ok or was it because their names were both Ron. Villa almost has this supernatural ability to the past. So a scouse manager might just work. Although Ron Saunders was from Birkenhead.

Actually I read up on this yesterday, and I believe your scouse if you're from Birkenhead, while Liverpool you're a plastic scouser*.


*could be talking bollocks

If Ellesmere Port counts as scouse then you can also include Graham Turner and Joe Mercer.

Who was the other scouse Ron?

[SoccerHQ]

Terry was working under an experienced coach. Gerrard...I mean, I'd love to be wrong, but my first reaction is that it's basically embarrassing, small time starfuckery.

Gerrard did a year coaching at Liverpool under Klopp didn't he?

Worked with their under 23 team so little different to Mark Delaney here.

[SamTheMouse]

"Gerrard has done well with Rangers"

Oh thanks mate, you've just set my PTSD off again.

[ian c.]

Steve Gerrard Gerrard
He’s big and he’s fucking hard
He’s the gaffer at Villa Park
Steve Gerrard Gerrard

Oh Steve Me, Steve Me
You tried to snap Boateng's knee
Please stay in obscurity
Stevie Me, Steve Me.

[SoccerHQ]

On ts the villa fans who called in have said they want Gerrard.  One even said he wants Lampard.  Jesus

Lampard would be a absolute disaster and ia no upgrade on smith. Id have rather have kept Smith than Lampard.

Hell no to frank

I'm listening aswell. In minority but I actually like listening to Danny Murphy. However he's certainly got an issue with us. Him just dismissing the Villa fan who said how well West Ham were doing after battling us in relegation in 19/20 was ridiculous.

Didn't he pen an article a few years back saying he found Villa Park a really drab place to play at compared to likes of Elland Road?

[Ian.]

"Gerrard has done well with Rangers"

Now that is uncalled for. Shudders

[The Edge]

One thing, above all else, is we need to learn from Tottenham and make sure, at least publicly, we get our first choice manager. Once we start offering and being turned down, we are dead in the water. How you do this when going after managers already in a job, asking permission to talk to them then the obvious leaks, I don't know.

Living locally, I can tell you the Brighton fans have no expectations that he will leave in what they see as a sideways move. Do we really want a manager who would do the dirty on an incumbent club?

They think Brighton to Aston Villa is a sideways move? We all love our own clubs equally but that is straight up delusional.

[Rory]

Remember Houllier's press conference when he joined? When he started talking about Liverpool and how this job wasn't in the same league as Liverpool manager?

Or when we played at Anfield and he tapped the sign over the tunnel? That?

With Gerrard we would be getting that sort of vibe, only much stronger, with the added impetus of the Liverpool job being in his future rather than his past.

No thanks.

Indeed. Unbearable. Plus, there's no actual evidence that he's seriously much as a manager either. I accept that someone like Pochettino was a gamble for Southampton, but this is surely too much.

Agreed and, like Drummond, there aren't many people in the game I have hated as consistently and passionately as I hate Gerrard.