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Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1335 on: November 08, 2021, 09:26:23 AM »
Remember Houllier's press conference when he joined? When he started talking about Liverpool and how this job wasn't in the same league as Liverpool manager?

Or when we played at Anfield and he tapped the sign over the tunnel? That?

With Gerrard we would be getting that sort of vibe, only much stronger, with the added impetus of the Liverpool job being in his future rather than his past.

No thanks.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1336 on: November 08, 2021, 09:29:24 AM »
I dont want Eddie Howe for the simple reason he looks like he should be related to the Gardners.

And the fact he just became Newcastle manager about 2 days ago?

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1337 on: November 08, 2021, 09:31:44 AM »
Gerrard would raise our profile, no doubt about that which could be the thinking behind it. Would need to be backed to the hilt though to attract the sort of players maybe Smith couldn't.
Genuine question - Joe aside, would a footballer really want to choose Gerrard over say West Ham, Spurs, Arsenal etc - who we want to be competing with? 

My concern is, the way the clubs is run, a lot of key decisions aren't made by the manager, or at least not alone - so I think that limits us to a Head Coach type manager.

I think some of these appointments in coaching an recruitment were force on Dean to some degree

Probably not given the choice, but if you outbid them then maybe you'd come to us for an extra 40k a week which the others won't pay.

I don't know how much clout gerrard would have to be honest but if the board sanctioned 25m for a midfielder in January, but wouldn't give Smith that money, then he's got an advantage straight away. Doesn't stop him buying the wrong guy or not coaching him as well as Smith though.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1338 on: November 08, 2021, 09:32:27 AM »
Remember Houllier's press conference when he joined? When he started talking about Liverpool and how this job wasn't in the same league as Liverpool manager?

Or when we played at Anfield and he tapped the sign over the tunnel? That?

With Gerrard we would be getting that sort of vibe, only much stronger, with the added impetus of the Liverpool job being in his future rather than his past.

No thanks.

Indeed. Unbearable. Plus, there's no actual evidence that he's seriously much as a manager either. I accept that someone like Pochettino was a gamble for Southampton, but this is surely too much.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1339 on: November 08, 2021, 09:33:32 AM »
Gerrard would raise our profile, no doubt about that which could be the thinking behind it. Would need to be backed to the hilt though to attract the sort of players maybe Smith couldn't.
Genuine question - Joe aside, would a footballer really want to choose Gerrard over say West Ham, Spurs, Arsenal etc - who we want to be competing with? 

My concern is, the way the clubs is run, a lot of key decisions aren't made by the manager, or at least not alone - so I think that limits us to a Head Coach type manager.

I think some of these appointments in coaching an recruitment were force on Dean to some degree

Probably not given the choice, but if you outbid them then maybe you'd come to us for an extra 40k a week which the others won't pay.

I don't know how much clout gerrard would have to be honest but if the board sanctioned 25m for a midfielder in January, but wouldn't give Smith that money, then he's got an advantage straight away. Doesn't stop him buying the wrong guy or not coaching him as well as Smith though.

Oh he'd raise our profile alright, but I'm pretty certain it would be for all the wrong reasons.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1340 on: November 08, 2021, 09:34:20 AM »
I dont want Eddie Howe for the simple reason he looks like he should be related to the Gardners.

And the fact he just became Newcastle manager about 2 days ago?

Not yet

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1341 on: November 08, 2021, 09:34:34 AM »
Not that I want Gerrard but, at the moment, any ambitious manager is going to see Villa as a stepping stone to whatever their dream job is.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1342 on: November 08, 2021, 09:36:55 AM »
I dont want Eddie Howe for the simple reason he looks like he should be related to the Gardners.

And the fact he just became Newcastle manager about 2 days ago?

Not yet

Give it 10 minutes.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1343 on: November 08, 2021, 09:38:42 AM »
I think the reality is that if he were appointed the fans would be on his case very early and there would, barring some miraculous run, be calls for his head before the end of the season.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1344 on: November 08, 2021, 09:38:55 AM »
The main candidates don't seem to be very popular on here and the socials. If Steven Gerrard was to be offered and take the position with our tricky December fixtures it could see fans turning on him by the new year as it seems he isn't very liked.

Graham Potter has just above 28% win ratio with Brighton.....

Fonseca if he gets off to a tricky start will be branded the new Remi Garde.

Dean Smith had a lot of support because of his connections to the Football Club and I don't think any manager will have the same level of support from the fan base than he did.

I've said it before and I'm saying it again now, Roy Hodgson would be an ideal appointment until the summer when we can target a real top coach with a bumper budget for players

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1345 on: November 08, 2021, 09:40:16 AM »
Not that I want Gerrard but, at the moment, any ambitious manager is going to see Villa as a stepping stone to whatever their dream job is.

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I'd like to think a manager with genuine ambition could see the size of our club and the willingness of the board to spend serious money and think he could achieve all he wanted to achieve here. Anyone that doesn't think Villa can aspire to compete with the best shouldn't be anywhere near being appointed our manager.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1346 on: November 08, 2021, 09:41:47 AM »
One thing, above all else, is we need to learn from Tottenham and make sure, at least publicly, we get our first choice manager. Once we start offering and being turned down, we are dead in the water. How you do this when going after managers already in a job, asking permission to talk to them then the obvious leaks, I don't know.

Living locally, I can tell you the Brighton fans have no expectations that he will leave in what they see as a sideways move. Do we really want a manager who would do the dirty on an incumbent club?

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1347 on: November 08, 2021, 09:42:24 AM »
I think the reality is that if he were appointed the fans would be on his case very early and there would, barring some miraculous run, be calls for his head before the end of the season.

If it is him, he might surprise us. I was dead against John Terry coming in as a coach, but by the end I'd been won over by his work ethic and willingness to get his head down and learn his trade. At no time did he ever display a big headedness that you might expect from a "legend" from another club. At the end of the day though, it's all about results. Whoever comes in needs to get the team playing well and win a few games. Do that and they'll be accepted.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1348 on: November 08, 2021, 09:43:22 AM »
Do we really want a manager who would do the dirty on an incumbent club?

If they're any good, then yes. See Little, Sir Brian.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1349 on: November 08, 2021, 09:44:25 AM »
We absolutely need someone that can handle pressure. Because after Smith, there will be plenty. He took over at such a low ebb in our recent history and couldn't get us doing any worse. Instead he got us going way earlier than the plan. That he clearly understood helped massively.

We need someone who is tried and tested, because we are not a place for someone to learn. The fans have been supportive of Smith, even in some bad times, but the next guy won't have that level of support. There's a good squad of players and expectations are high.

Gerrard can fuck off, I detest him. I'd rather have Lampard, but given how he couldn't get a Chelsea squad organised that's a no. Terry can do one. Howe needs an opportunity but he's going to be a stop gap at Newcastle and it's a no from me.

The Danish guy hasn't got the experience of a big club and the day to day pressure that entails. Emery won't leave Villareal for the Real Villa so soon after committing. 

I doubt Rodgers would leave Leicester at this point, though I'd definitely have him. Thomas Frank is an interesting proposition, but I'm not convinced, same with Ralph Hasenhüttl. Fonseca? I don't know enough about him, but there's potential there and he's had Roma...

Can’t disagree with any of that, all we can hope if it’s a quick process and the board get the coach they want not Nuno style 6th choice

 


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