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Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1140 on: November 07, 2021, 08:38:45 PM »
Out of interest what would people have said if we'd appointed Patrick Vieria in the summer if we'd made the managerial change earlier?

That's probably closest appointment in prem similar to if we get Gerrard in given his status as a player, managing in MLS which is worse than SPL and his record in a big league at Nice was indifferent.

Yet currently I'd say Palace are one of most exciting teams to watch in premier league and they've done that significantly reducing age of their first 11 doing it. Could've easily had another 4-5 points on the board and could comfortably beat us in a few weeks.

That's example of giving untested prem manager a go (as he wasn't even their first choice) but they made some really intelligent signings, have a core of experience and capable prem players and so it's a good fit for where he is in his managerial career.

Our squad is average in some areas but there are some really good players in it aswell so just think we need some new direction on a daily basis and eventually we'll see it again on matchday.

Let's see where Palace finish before we start congratulating them on appointing Vieira. But, in any case, even if he's successful he's still a gamble. A good player can make a good manager, of course, but many don't. For every Guardiola there's a Sherwood.

We should be reducing the chance of failure as much as possible, by appointing a proven manager. And we should be recruiting at a higher level than poxy Crystal Palace.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1141 on: November 07, 2021, 08:39:02 PM »
One thing I would say for Gerrard is that plenty of players would want to play and learn off him. For any young midfielder he would be a wet dream.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1142 on: November 07, 2021, 08:40:01 PM »
Its more the dislike of gerrard, rather than his limited experience, i have a problem with.

A lot of people (I’m staring at Dave Woodhall here) disliked John Terry before he came and he couldn’t have conducted himself better. Absolutely first class the minute he walked in to the minute he left

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1143 on: November 07, 2021, 08:40:38 PM »
Rodgers did well up there and has continued it with Leicester. I'll mention the other manager through gritted teeth if you make me!
Yes but...Rodgers had done very well at Swansea and Liverpool before going up there. That experience has helped him more than SPL stint at Leicester IMO.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1144 on: November 07, 2021, 08:42:54 PM »
The kind of player Vieira was and the teams he played in gave a clue as to the kind of manager he'd become. He also said all the right things. With Gerrard, the kind of player he was was not exactly cerebral, and his management style has definitely tended towards the 'passion' end of things.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1145 on: November 07, 2021, 08:44:31 PM »
Its more the dislike of gerrard, rather than his limited experience, i have a problem with.

That's fair enough. But then Terry signing didn't go down well on here (I didn't want us signing him) but he kept his head down on and off the pitch and didn't give us any negative headlines.

My main issue with Gerrard is I just think it will be another Houllier situation especially if Liverpool beat us 3 or 4 nil so will have uphill battle to win over fanbase if he gives a bad interview in that scenario.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1146 on: November 07, 2021, 08:45:37 PM »
If Gerrard thinks coming here is a stepping stone to Liverpool then he’ll be shocked.

Nobody has managed to use us as a stepping stone for the last 25(?) years?

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1147 on: November 07, 2021, 08:46:56 PM »
One thing I would say for Gerrard is that plenty of players would want to play and learn off him. For any young midfielder he would be a wet dream.

Yes, just like all those forwards learned off Diego Maradona during his incredibly successful managerial career.

You are coming out with exactly the kind of fanwank that I'm terrified we will have to put up with if we appoint the diving, DJ-beating wanker.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1148 on: November 07, 2021, 08:48:00 PM »
Cant believe people are turning their noses at low. He would be a unbelievable coup. One of the best German national sides in numerous years. Made them absolute beasts defensively and organised. Hard working and a huge name.

A manager like low can attract superstars to the club. I doubt we could attract him but if he was interested he is definitely someone we should look at.
Your reasoning is years out of date.

Thats a matter of opinion not fact

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1149 on: November 07, 2021, 08:50:11 PM »
I reckon they will go for Terry and Lampard.

Nobody ever goes for co-managers and neither would agree to be an assistant manager (Terry just left because he didn't want to be an assistant manager any more). So that won't happen.

If it did happen, though, would bookies pay out on both or neither?

Who were the last co-managers, Houllier and Evans?  An utter disaster.

Did Djemba and Djemba ever go into management?
No only Djemba did. Djemba is selling timeshares in La Palma. Property is hot there currently.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2021, 08:53:39 PM by olaftab »

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1150 on: November 07, 2021, 08:52:23 PM »
One thing I would say for Gerrard is that plenty of players would want to play and learn off him. For any young midfielder he would be a wet dream.

Yes, just like all those forwards learned off Diego Maradona during his incredibly successful managerial career.

You are coming out with exactly the kind of fanwank that I'm terrified we will have to put up with if we appoint the diving, DJ-beating wanker.

I’m telling you what young players would think about being coached by someone like that. No fan wank at all. Like Viera, as much as it’s not flavoursome for us as fans the players think differently

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1151 on: November 07, 2021, 08:54:22 PM »
It's basically just a rehash of the nonsensical good player = good manager argument, with added Liverpool fawning.

It's fanwank.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1152 on: November 07, 2021, 08:54:24 PM »
Yes, Vieira appears to be doing well for Palace, but an appointment like that is like buying a lottery ticket rather than a pension policy. We're above all that.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1153 on: November 07, 2021, 08:54:34 PM »
What does Percy say?

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1154 on: November 07, 2021, 08:54:53 PM »
Its more the dislike of gerrard, rather than his limited experience, i have a problem with.

A lot of people (I’m staring at Dave Woodhall here) disliked John Terry before he came and he couldn’t have conducted himself better. Absolutely first class the minute he walked in to the minute he left
Its more the dislike of gerrard, rather than his limited experience, i have a problem with.

A lot of people (I’m staring at Dave Woodhall here) disliked John Terry before he came and he couldn’t have conducted himself better. Absolutely first class the minute he walked in to the minute he left

Terry / Lampard combo ?

 


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