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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #330 on: November 02, 2021, 12:20:57 PM »
Every manager is a gamble. But one of the most sought after managers in Europe would clearly be less so than a 0-9 expert like Hassenhutl or a managerial novice like Frank Terrard.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #331 on: November 02, 2021, 12:26:14 PM »
Every manager is a gamble. But one of the most sought after managers in Europe would clearly be less so than a 0-9 expert like Hassenhutl or a managerial novice like Frank Terrard.

Quite.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #332 on: November 02, 2021, 12:27:37 PM »
Unai Emre to Newcastle- a very good move if they pull this off.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #333 on: November 02, 2021, 12:29:15 PM »
Fonseca would be a huge risk and could take us down.

There’s absolutely no way of knowing how he will fair in the premier league, especially if he is taking over a team in the relegation zone. We know he hasn’t managed in the premier league but has he ever had to “turn around” a team?

I’d much rather we went after Hasenhuttl who would almost guarantee us safety and then hopefully progression thereafter.

This line of argument is why useless twats like Bruce and Big Sam keep getting jobs.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #334 on: November 02, 2021, 12:31:05 PM »
And missed out on Moyes

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #335 on: November 02, 2021, 12:42:14 PM »
I must admit I got Fonseca confused with the one who was a good footballer.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #336 on: November 02, 2021, 12:47:42 PM »
If the Fonseca rumours are true that's somewhat encouraging, not necessarily because he's the answer but it's the right profile.
What is his brand of football?

It doesn't matter, he's shiny and sparkly and new and sounds exotic.

It might mean that for the first time in years we've realised that football is played outside of the island, and that we can 'go foreign' even though Dr. Jo and Remi Garde were failures (unlike notes successes Tim Sherwood, Paul Lambert, Alex McLeish, David O'Leary, Steve Bruce etc).

Fonseca himself might not be the answer, but if the alternative is gazing longingly at Graham Potter then appointing Lampard or Gerrard (what, was Owen Hargreaves unavailable?), then that's where I'd rather us be.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #337 on: November 02, 2021, 12:53:34 PM »
Unai Emre to Newcastle- a very good move if they pull this off.

Based on his CV I guess but he flopped badly at Arsenal. I think Emery would be mad to consider going to Newcastle but I guess Saudi Arabia will be pumping money into the club and his pocket.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #338 on: November 02, 2021, 12:55:43 PM »
Not sure Fonseca is the mythical "next level" candidate though. He record is on a par with the likes of Gerrard and Lampard.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #339 on: November 02, 2021, 12:56:42 PM »
And missed out on Moyes

I think there's a fair bit of revisionism around Moyes all over the place right now. He's been excellent in the last 18months so there's no shock people are suddenly hugely supportive of him but people need to remember why he wasn't flying high:

Took the champions to 7th having spent the best part of £100m
Had Real Sociedad in relegation battles 2 years running
Got Sunfderland relegated, and they stillhaven't rcovered from it
Just about dragged West Ham to safety but wasn't considered good enough to keep the job

Since hten he got the job back, repeated the tirkc of saving them and has done brilliantly but there's no point before this run where you'd look at any of those achievements and think he was the best man to turn you into top 6 challengers.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #340 on: November 02, 2021, 01:00:03 PM »
And missed out on Moyes

I think there's a fair bit of revisionism around Moyes all over the place right now. He's been excellent in the last 18months so there's no shock people are suddenly hugely supportive of him but people need to remember why he wasn't flying high:

Took the champions to 7th having spent the best part of £100m
Had Real Sociedad in relegation battles 2 years running
Got Sunfderland relegated, and they stillhaven't rcovered from it
Just about dragged West Ham to safety but wasn't considered good enough to keep the job

Since hten he got the job back, repeated the tirkc of saving them and has done brilliantly but there's no point before this run where you'd look at any of those achievements and think he was the best man to turn you into top 6 challengers.

Aye, there's quotes from Evra's book I think where apparently he went into Man U's dressing room and told the players they had to "teach him how to be a winner". Surprised he lasted as long as he did.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #341 on: November 02, 2021, 01:00:21 PM »
Not sure Fonseca is the mythical "next level" candidate though. He record is on a par with the likes of Gerrard and Lampard.

I trust the board to come up with the right chap though. He's got to fit in with the board's long term view in terms of style of play, way of working and possibility of taking us up a level. I think it's very clear at the moment that that man is not Dean Smith. I'll be grateful to Smith for taking us up and keeping us in the Premier League, but we can't be sentimental, and need to start catching and overtaking the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and West Ham to get into the European spots.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #342 on: November 02, 2021, 01:01:00 PM »
Can always see if Smith ever left that he comes back again like Moyes did with West Ham

Having learnt and improved.
Though I think a Smith dynasty would be more suitable
Klopp been at Liverpool 6 or 7years give Deano that time
Especially with the academy players coming through

Dean works best with players who listen to him and can be coached
« Last Edit: November 02, 2021, 01:03:45 PM by Footy-Vill »

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #343 on: November 02, 2021, 01:05:04 PM »
Not sure Fonseca is the mythical "next level" candidate though. He record is on a par with the likes of Gerrard and Lampard.

I trust the board to come up with the right chap though. He's got to fit in with the board's long term view in terms of style of play, way of working and possibility of taking us up a level. I think it's very clear at the moment that that man is not Dean Smith. I'll be grateful to Smith for taking us up and keeping us in the Premier League, but we can't be sentimental, and need to start catching and overtaking the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and West Ham to get into the European spots.

Taking us up, keeping us up and putting together a young squad which won't take much to have challenging for Europe (in my opinion). As I've said a few times now this will be (whenever it happens) the first time we've employed a new manager who won't look at the squad and think "how the fuck do I start with this lot?" I think that's the real legacy that Smith will leave behind.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #344 on: November 02, 2021, 01:10:53 PM »
Not sure Fonseca is the mythical "next level" candidate though. He record is on a par with the likes of Gerrard and Lampard.

I trust the board to come up with the right chap though. He's got to fit in with the board's long term view in terms of style of play, way of working and possibility of taking us up a level. I think it's very clear at the moment that that man is not Dean Smith. I'll be grateful to Smith for taking us up and keeping us in the Premier League, but we can't be sentimental, and need to start catching and overtaking the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and West Ham to get into the European spots.

yeah, whether Smith should stay is one argument and while I don't want him to go, I'd concede there's valid arguments for him going. I'm just one of the nervous types wondering what we'd get. I'd like an Atkinson, SGT, MON type - someone who's done it here or abroad in a top league and would only come with major backing from the owners. I realise that currently means possibly Rodgers only in this country, and obviously an equivalent from abroad. Not sure if Fonseca is that category - more a hopeful punt imo. I realise that's a high level of "next level" but there you go,
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