Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

[SoccerHQ]

Learning on the job especially at the top level is always going to be hard to do. That’s the biggest risk in all of this. But the board will have seen Vieira start to do it at Palace without significant experience most recently. Gerrard will certainly raise the profile of the club and possibly attract a certain type of footballer. We all hope that if it is him more than anything he finds the ability quickly to perform as a PL manager. All of the other stuff around him is just noise.

Vieira is on his third club.

One of those was in MLS so pretty much two jobs he's had in his career.

[sickbeggar]

Well if anything Percy and/or the club have come up with a new definition of ambitious.

Ambitious (a) Like Derby County but on steriods

[Sexual Ealing]

Learning on the job especially at the top level is always going to be hard to do. That’s the biggest risk in all of this. But the board will have seen Vieira start to do it at Palace without significant experience most recently. Gerrard will certainly raise the profile of the club and possibly attract a certain type of footballer. We all hope that if it is him more than anything he finds the ability quickly to perform as a PL manager. All of the other stuff around him is just noise.

Vieira is on his third club.

One of those was in MLS so pretty much two jobs he's had in his career.

Gerrard's is in the Scottish Premiership so pretty much no jobs.

[cdbearsfan]

All really good points.

I think fundamentally, we all want what is right for Aston Villa.  We’re all on the same page with that even though they’ll be some in the for Gerrard camp and some in the against.

I probably won’t post again about it given I’ll get behind whoever gets the job but some really strong arguments for and against.

I admire the sentiment, but there really aren't any good arguments in favour.

Check the Birmingham Live poll. Plenty want Gerrard

People listen to Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

[SoccerHQ]

All really good points.

I think fundamentally, we all want what is right for Aston Villa.  We’re all on the same page with that even though they’ll be some in the for Gerrard camp and some in the against.

I probably won’t post again about it given I’ll get behind whoever gets the job but some really strong arguments for and against.

I admire the sentiment, but there really aren't any good arguments in favour.

Check the Birmingham Live poll. Plenty want Gerrard

People listen to Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

And play 3-5-2.

[Behind Bluenose Lines]

Simon Jordan gets it.
Like he always does with us.

Indeed. He's got a soft spot for us, anyway, and he usually talks sense.

I reckon the whole thing's a smokescreen.

[cdbearsfan]

All really good points.

I think fundamentally, we all want what is right for Aston Villa.  We’re all on the same page with that even though they’ll be some in the for Gerrard camp and some in the against.

I probably won’t post again about it given I’ll get behind whoever gets the job but some really strong arguments for and against.

I admire the sentiment, but there really aren't any good arguments in favour.

Check the Birmingham Live poll. Plenty want Gerrard

People listen to Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

And play 3-5-2.

I hate people! We definitely shouldn't appoint a manager from any club that claims to be them.

[Billy Walker]

The positives on Gerrard
✔Winner played and won at highest level
✔huge name in the game
✔has a excellent coaching team around him
✔mccalister knows the club
✔gerrards tough. He wont take no nonsense from someone like mings
✔passion - no one can question  that.
✔can attract massive names to the club

The negatives
❌could use us a stepping stone
❌ no experience in england
❌liverpool wankfest when we play them

Those "positives" are all absolute nonsense.

✔Winner played and won at highest level

Complete irrelevance, see Bruce, Di Matteo, Sherwood, etc.

✔huge name in the game

So was Diego Maradona, didn't make him a good manager

✔has a excellent coaching team around him

If they're so excellent why have they won less than St Johnstone?

✔mccalister knows the club

So do Eric Black and Kevin MacDonald, should we bring them back?

✔gerrards tough. He wont take no nonsense from someone like mings

Absolute drivel, and what evidence do you have of any "nonsense" from Mings?

✔passion - no one can question  that

Great news! If we are appointing a manager based on traits that were considered vital by Little Englander Chairmen in about 1973. Exactly the same logic that would have made Tim Sherwood seem an ideal candidate.

✔can attract massive names to the club

We are Aston Villa and we have loads of money. Our Board should be able to do that. If it is just based on the Gerrard name, how many megastars play for "Rangers"? Did Ronaldo consider joining Derby County because Rooney is there?

Spot on.

[The_ads]

All really good points.

I think fundamentally, we all want what is right for Aston Villa.  We’re all on the same page with that even though they’ll be some in the for Gerrard camp and some in the against.

I probably won’t post again about it given I’ll get behind whoever gets the job but some really strong arguments for and against.

I admire the sentiment, but there really aren't any good arguments in favour.

Check the Birmingham Live poll. Plenty want Gerrard

That's not a strong argument.

Well….nearly 1500 voted that they’d want him and all must have their own reasons. As I said, going to go and sit on the fence for a bit and see what happens.

[cannock villa]

Can't help but see a strikingly similarity to the end of the Brian Little era. A Villa man through and through struggling to get results with a talented squad near the relegation spots. Could Gerrard be our new John Gregory, learning his trade down the lower leagues (swop Rangers for Wycombe. Lets's face it Gregory didn't have the experience then to manage us and we were a far more established side then but did extremely well for a few seasons.

[Billy Walker]

All really good points.

I think fundamentally, we all want what is right for Aston Villa.  We’re all on the same page with that even though they’ll be some in the for Gerrard camp and some in the against.

I probably won’t post again about it given I’ll get behind whoever gets the job but some really strong arguments for and against.

I admire the sentiment, but there really aren't any good arguments in favour.

Check the Birmingham Live poll. Plenty want Gerrard

Liverpool fans? Blues fans, Baggies fans? The world and their dog can vote on that, unfortunately.

[Clive W]

I think it’s going to be a matter of luck whoever we appoint
Past records and achievements don’t necessarily guarantee future success.

Someone may prove me wrong, but when I quickly scanned down the list of potential candidates, I got the impression that they had all been either sacked, or resigned under dubious circumstances, at least once in their managerial careers.

I think that it was in Harold Wilson’s day that someone coined the phrase “all political careers end in failure”

The same could be said of football managers/coaches - SAF and Wenger the very rare exceptions

We can only hope that  our next appointment will give us 2/3 years of success to build from where we are now before the inevitable 5 match losing run and the merry go round starts up again.

[Monty]

I'm willing to bet some money that most of the people who'd voted for him in that poll would have done so for some variation on 'he's a winner'.

[andyh]

I'm willing to bet some money that most of the people who'd voted for him in that poll would have done so for some variation on 'he's a winner'.

And many would be of the mindset that Dean shouldn’t have gone because it was only 5 games, and we sold our best player so it wasn’t his fault etc.

[The_ads]

All really good points.

I think fundamentally, we all want what is right for Aston Villa.  We’re all on the same page with that even though they’ll be some in the for Gerrard camp and some in the against.

I probably won’t post again about it given I’ll get behind whoever gets the job but some really strong arguments for and against.

I admire the sentiment, but there really aren't any good arguments in favour.

Check the Birmingham Live poll. Plenty want Gerrard

Liverpool fans? Blues fans, Baggies fans? The world and their dog can vote on that, unfortunately.

Fair point