Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

[Rory]

My objection to Stephen Gerrard is not personal or professional . He’s a young manager who has done ok in his short career so far , so may have potential, who knows, and he seems considered and thoughtful in the few interviews I’ve seen him do as a manager.
 My objection is to the inevitable Sky led media love in which will follow ( for him , not us) which will lead us to be known as “Stephen Gerrard’s Aston Villa” , in much the same way as we were “John Terry’s Aston Villa” for a few months, only x 10.
The story will be all about him, not Villa. If he succeeds , we will be seen as the mediocre little northern* team who got lucky solely because of his genius. If he struggles, we will have been the basket case who dragged him down and who weren’t worthy of his talents. Either way we lose.
Stevie G’s mighty Villa YNWA …. No thanks

* Northern because the Midlands doesn’t exist to Sky, obviously.

I strongly disliked him as a player and think he's a miserable prick of a man, but this sums up why the rational me doesn't want him anywhere near us.

Not arsed about the Rangers connection - if they had a really good, proven manager, I'd be happy to take him off them.

But Gerrard hasn't proven himself to be worthy of this step up, much less shown that he'd be worth having to endure the redscouse media circus that would accompany him.

[cdbearsfan]

Martinez would be a decent appointment.

Ideally with someone who knows about defending as well as attacking in tow, though.

Thierry and "Super" Shaun...

[john e]

I like Martinez always have

I like his passing and possession based football
I remember the Everton fans moaning about him saying he only had one way to play and couldn’t change from that
Thing is that one way is Ball on the ground short quick passing and movement retain possession that’s his style and he doesn’t deviate

To be honest that will do me
I also think he’s a decent respectful bloke as well and I don’t believe the bullshit that went about him turning us down that was a Whelan PR trick

He might not have won the World Cup with Belgium but hey that’s pretty tough ask no matter you’ve got
He’s been Belgium’s international manager for a few years now I honestly don’t think we are in a position to be turning the likes  of Martinez down if it’s a possibility

He has to be a better bet than Lampard Gerard etc

[brontebilly]

If we go by statistics in the Prem then Martinez with Everton and Swansea is the best of a pretty poor bunch. That, sadly means you have to ignore his abject failure at Wigwam. Plays quite decent football which may suit our players. Nuno is the second "best" pick from that "pool". 

 If we are appointing a candidate with no Prem League experience then we need to look at the "big 5" leagues and who's done well there, consistently. I would go for Lucien Favre. Kasper Hjulmand has done nothing at club level, his record in the Bundersleague is terrible, Fonseca seems to be hit and miss. Gerard shouldn't be anywhere near the list.   

Is Deano the modern Vic Crowe or Tony Barton?

Was hardly an abject failure at Wigan, they did beat Man City to win the FA Cup. Getting relegated with them was poor but didn't put off Everton too much. I'm struggling to recall why Everton fans were totally against him for a finish.

Definitely a bit of a spoofer, somehow got himself the Belgium job with Henry for whatever reason an assistant. Think he was done a good job there, second best team at last World Cup but their team now ain't what it was. No surprise to me that he would be looking to move on, surely was in the mix for the Spurs and Newcastle jobs of late.

[Villan82]

Martinez makes sense, especially with the players we have and the Philosophy we tried to develop with DS

[LeeB]

We could do worse than Martinez, though I think I'd just be whelmed, not under or over.

[Monty]

The names we've heard linked with any confidence are Gerrard, Martinez, Hasenhüttl, Fonseca and Mjolnir. Of those, only Fonseca seems like an even remotely exciting. I've definitely been a lot more whelmed in my time.

Edit: oh eff off Lee, that was my line.

[Smithy]

If we go by statistics in the Prem then Martinez with Everton and Swansea is the best of a pretty poor bunch. That, sadly means you have to ignore his abject failure at Wigwam. Plays quite decent football which may suit our players. Nuno is the second "best" pick from that "pool". 

 If we are appointing a candidate with no Prem League experience then we need to look at the "big 5" leagues and who's done well there, consistently. I would go for Lucien Favre. Kasper Hjulmand has done nothing at club level, his record in the Bundersleague is terrible, Fonseca seems to be hit and miss. Gerard shouldn't be anywhere near the list.   

Is Deano the modern Vic Crowe or Tony Barton?

Was hardly an abject failure at Wigan, they did beat Man City to win the FA Cup. Getting relegated with them was poor but didn't put off Everton too much. I'm struggling to recall why Everton fans were totally against him for a finish.

Definitely a bit of a spoofer, somehow got himself the Belgium job with Henry for whatever reason an assistant. Think he was done a good job there, second best team at last World Cup but their team now ain't what it was. No surprise to me that he would be looking to move on, surely was in the mix for the Spurs and Newcastle jobs of late.

I was looking at his Everton record, and I suspect the fans turned on him because of two back-to-back seasons of 11th place.  That's off the back a decade of David Moyes getting them 6-8th every season.  They were in the European mix pretty much every year for a decade, and then they weren't.

[Walmley_Villa]

Wonder if we will go for Villas-Boas.....who is his agent?

On another point who was sat behind Purslow at Southampton on Friday and chatting in his ear?

[Toronto Villa]

The thing with Dean was he came with the very reputation for football we want yet again. High press, possession football, don’t care who we are playing. Precisely the same as TSM2 at Norwich with far inferior players. And yet both ultimately failed to do that with us. We saw it at times of course. Lambert had us playing some great stuff as did Dean. But what the fuck happens when they get here? Is the club just so big that it sucks the courage right out of them?

[Ian.]

I like Martinez always have

I like his passing and possession based football
I remember the Everton fans moaning about him saying he only had one way to play and couldn’t change from that
Thing is that one way is Ball on the ground short quick passing and movement retain possession that’s his style and he doesn’t deviate

To be honest that will do me
I also think he’s a decent respectful bloke as well and I don’t believe the bullshit that went about him turning us down that was a Whelan PR trick

He might not have won the World Cup with Belgium but hey that’s pretty tough ask no matter you’ve got
He’s been Belgium’s international manager for a few years now I honestly don’t think we are in a position to be turning the likes  of Martinez down if it’s a possibility

He has to be a better bet than Lampard Gerard etc

I have always like Martinez and was gutted we never really went out to get him all those years back.
I must admit I had completely forgot until the other day he was manager of Belgium.

One concern was, if I remember was he wasn't that great at organising his defence, which may be a concern knowing our problems of late.

[LeeB]

The names we've heard linked with any confidence are Gerrard, Martinez, Hasenhüttl, Fonseca and Mjolnir. Of those, only Fonseca seems like an even remotely exciting. I've definitely been a lot more whelmed in my time.

Edit: oh eff off Lee, that was my line.

Ha, what are the chances of that? It perfectly serves where I would be with him. I don't think we'd struggle, and we'd probably be nice and neat, but I think we'd just end up treading water a bit.

[simboy]

If we go by statistics in the Prem then Martinez with Everton and Swansea is the best of a pretty poor bunch. That, sadly means you have to ignore his abject failure at Wigwam. Plays quite decent football which may suit our players. Nuno is the second "best" pick from that "pool". 

 If we are appointing a candidate with no Prem League experience then we need to look at the "big 5" leagues and who's done well there, consistently. I would go for Lucien Favre. Kasper Hjulmand has done nothing at club level, his record in the Bundersleague is terrible, Fonseca seems to be hit and miss. Gerard shouldn't be anywhere near the list.   

Is Deano the modern Vic Crowe or Tony Barton?

Was hardly an abject failure at Wigan, they did beat Man City to win the FA Cup. Getting relegated with them was poor but didn't put off Everton too much. I'm struggling to recall why Everton fans were totally against him for a finish.

Definitely a bit of a spoofer, somehow got himself the Belgium job with Henry for whatever reason an assistant. Think he was done a good job there, second best team at last World Cup but their team now ain't what it was. No surprise to me that he would be looking to move on, surely was in the mix for the Spurs and Newcastle jobs of late.

He seems the best of a not overly inspiring bunch. I like his style of play.

I like Favre as well. Just think he might be the next German "success" to manage in the Prem. [I know he's Swiss!] We have players that suit both styles ... him and Martinez.

[Monty]

The names we've heard linked with any confidence are Gerrard, Martinez, Hasenhüttl, Fonseca and Mjolnir. Of those, only Fonseca seems like an even remotely exciting. I've definitely been a lot more whelmed in my time.

Edit: oh eff off Lee, that was my line.

Ha, what are the chances of that? It perfectly serves where I would be with him. I don't think we'd struggle, and we'd probably be nice and neat, but I think we'd just end up treading water a bit.

Indeed, and probably play a lot more three at the back than would please many on here. Maybe that would be the next step though - the 'Everton cup' of 8th or so.

[BC Villain]

My objection to Stephen Gerrard is not personal or professional . He’s a young manager who has done ok in his short career so far , so may have potential, who knows, and he seems considered and thoughtful in the few interviews I’ve seen him do as a manager.
 My objection is to the inevitable Sky led media love in which will follow ( for him , not us) which will lead us to be known as “Stephen Gerrard’s Aston Villa” , in much the same way as we were “John Terry’s Aston Villa” for a few months, only x 10.
The story will be all about him, not Villa. If he succeeds , we will be seen as the mediocre little northern* team who got lucky solely because of his genius. If he struggles, we will have been the basket case who dragged him down and who weren’t worthy of his talents. Either way we lose.
Stevie G’s mighty Villa YNWA …. No thanks

* Northern because the Midlands doesn’t exist to Sky, obviously.

I strongly disliked him as a player and think he's a miserable prick of a man, but this sums up why the rational me doesn't want him anywhere near us.

Not arsed about the Rangers connection - if they had a really good, proven manager, I'd be happy to take him off them.

But Gerrard hasn't proven himself to be worthy of this step up, much less shown that he'd be worth having to endure the redscouse media circus that would accompany him.

My biggest issue with Gerrard is the feeling if he came here was that the job was filling time until the big man walks out of Anfield.