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Offline simboy

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1545 on: November 08, 2021, 01:32:17 PM »
I don't think Gerrard will be getting the Liverpool job any time soon. Klopp's only 54, I can see him being there for the next ten years at least.


Gerrard? No thanks.

No experience of the Prem as a manager [which was a major criticism of Smith]. No experience of English club football as a manager. Plays in a league where he's won 1 trophy, despite being the second biggest team. I'd rather have Fat Frank ... and that is saying something!


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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1546 on: November 08, 2021, 01:32:21 PM »
It feels like every time we have a managerial vacancy, we have to put up with supporters of all kinds of tinpot clubs saying that Villa should know their place and the idea of them attracting a really top manager is delusional, why would anyone good want to join Villa?

And just about every time, we prove them right.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1547 on: November 08, 2021, 01:34:35 PM »
I don't think Gerrard will be getting the Liverpool job any time soon. Klopp's only 54, I can see him being there for the next ten years at least.


Gerrard? No thanks.

No experience of the Prem as a manager [which was a major criticism of Smith]. No experience of English club football as a manager. Plays in a league where he's won 1 trophy, despite being the second biggest team. I'd rather have Fat Frank ... and that is saying something!



I wasn't suggesting him, just saying that I don't think we'd be any kind of stepping stone for the Liverpool job.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1548 on: November 08, 2021, 01:35:01 PM »
It feels like every time we have a managerial vacancy, we have to put up with supporters of all kinds of tinpot clubs saying that Villa should know their place and the idea of them attracting a really top manager is delusional, why would anyone good want to join Villa?

And just about every time, we prove them right.
This 100%

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1549 on: November 08, 2021, 01:37:09 PM »
My usual feeling when we start a new manager search is one of excitement and anticipation. This time I just don't get that feeling at all.

Unless there's someone seriously good available to us, we'll be left doing this again soon. I'm just hoping that the background work and developijg the whole club will pay off.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1550 on: November 08, 2021, 01:37:38 PM »
Stevie G still the favourite but Martinez's odds shortening with all the bookies. :(

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1551 on: November 08, 2021, 01:38:44 PM »
I thought Everton looked okay under Martinez up until they sold Lukaku. But I don’t remember too much in truth.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1552 on: November 08, 2021, 01:48:35 PM »
 My objection to Stephen Gerrard is not personal or professional . He’s a young manager who has done ok in his short career so far , so may have potential, who knows, and he seems considered and thoughtful in the few interviews I’ve seen him do as a manager.
 My objection is to the inevitable Sky led media love in which will follow ( for him , not us) which will lead us to be known as “Stephen Gerrard’s Aston Villa” , in much the same way as we were “John Terry’s Aston Villa” for a few months, only x 10.
The story will be all about him, not Villa. If he succeeds , we will be seen as the mediocre little northern* team who got lucky solely because of his genius. If he struggles, we will have been the basket case who dragged him down and who weren’t worthy of his talents. Either way we lose.
Stevie G’s mighty Villa YNWA …. No thanks

* Northern because the Midlands doesn’t exist to Sky, obviously.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1553 on: November 08, 2021, 01:49:53 PM »
If we go by statistics in the Prem then Martinez with Everton and Swansea is the best of a pretty poor bunch. That, sadly means you have to ignore his abject failure at Wigwam. Plays quite decent football which may suit our players. Nuno is the second "best" pick from that "pool". 

 If we are appointing a candidate with no Prem League experience then we need to look at the "big 5" leagues and who's done well there, consistently. I would go for Lucien Favre. Kasper Hjulmand has done nothing at club level, his record in the Bundersleague is terrible, Fonseca seems to be hit and miss. Gerard shouldn't be anywhere near the list.   

Is Deano the modern Vic Crowe or Tony Barton?

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1554 on: November 08, 2021, 01:52:01 PM »
It's fucking Leicester mate. We did it before, and if we're serious we could do it again.

Leicester are better than us. Alot better and have been for years. Thats the sad reality.

Not going to happen

Christ - I'm glad you're not our CEO.

The way you're going on we'd be lucky to tempt Fat Dave away from his role managing a mid-table Sunday League team!

Im glad your not our ceo as you would embarass our club by the amount of rejections we would get if you would go for managers like rodgers.

No offence mate but if you think we are getting rodgers i think your in fantasy land.

Why on earth would he give up europe to come to come to a team un 15th and in draedful form? Forget your a villa fan for a second explain why anyone would? They just won a  fa cup and have a very strong side.

It makes absolutely zero sense for him ro join us right now


Of course - why would he want to manage Aston Villa when he could be managing Leicester against Legia Warsaw.

FFS, managing in the Europa League isn't quite the dream ticket you seen to think it is. Any manager with ambition wants to manage in the Champions League and he's not going to be doing that regularly at Leicester.

But if he gets things right with us, and our gazillionaire owners, he could be.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1555 on: November 08, 2021, 01:52:29 PM »
If Martinez is 'ambitious' (Percy) then we should all pack up and go home.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1556 on: November 08, 2021, 01:54:35 PM »
Getting the Belgium manager would be ambitious, I reckon. It doesn't mean it would be right, though.

That said, I'd certainly give him a chance ahead of that twat Gerrard if those are our two main candidates.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1557 on: November 08, 2021, 01:54:42 PM »
Martinez failed at Wigan? A club 40 years ago playing in the Cheshire League, regularly staying up in the top flight and winning the FA Cup?

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1558 on: November 08, 2021, 01:55:29 PM »
I dont know much about the Ajax manager but I dont see why we should write off being able to attract him if we wanted him?

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #1559 on: November 08, 2021, 01:56:50 PM »
Martinez would be a decent appointment.

Ideally with someone who knows about defending as well as attacking in tow, though.

 


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