Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.

[sid1964]

I am off to Cyprus for a week - last time I was in Cyprus was the day that Bruce got the sack - i do hope that over this weekend that the same fate does not happen to Dean

[olaftab]

I would be astonished if he got another 3 games.

Lose to Southampton and it's cheerio I am afraid.

[Allan C]

I think Dean Smith has 1 game to save himself. If we don't get a good performance at the Saints and concede yet another 3 or 4 goals it's Au Revoir.

Reasoning is there is then a 2 week gap in which to recruit a new man, sort the defence out first by making us hard to break down and using something called 'coaching' to transition the ball from defence to midfield to the forwards without hoofing it or trying to throw the ball further.

It's possible that Mings had a go at Smith, Smith had a go back and benched him. Players aren't happy. This is the best squad for years we are in the bottom 6!

I think we need to be careful not making something where there’s nothing. The vast majority on here suggested that Mings needed dropping and Smith did it. There didn’t need to be an argument. He’s been poor and he was dropped

[Bobby Boy]

West Ham had their first choice eleven out. They were well organised, well drilled, every player knew their role, their job.

We had a new formation, new personnel. There was no cohesion, we were disjointed and lost. As you might expect.

Who is surprised that West Ham won?

If Dean won't work out what he wants can we get someone in who does?

[LukeJames]

West Ham had their first choice eleven out. They were well organised, well drilled, every player knew their role, their job.

Apart from the most under rated right back in the League.

[saint13]

Man U should have gone for Rice rather than Sancho in the summer.

I have been saying that for weeks. He would have made them 50% better & cannot believe they didn't get him instead paying well over the odds for the type player they already have 3 of.

[astonvilla82]

Truthfully I expected West Ham to win going on current form, but like the arsenal and spurs game,it was the manner in which we lost,

[Ad@m]

That performance wasn't as bad as the Spurs or Arsenal performances.

[LukeJames]

That performance wasn't as bad as the Spurs or Arsenal performances.

It was similar to the Spurs one, the Arsenal one we couldn't of complained if we'd lost 6-1

[Steve67]

That performance wasn't as bad as the Spurs or Arsenal performances.

I think West Ham are a better side than both of those, but Villa were terrible yesterday.

[Ad@m]

That performance wasn't as bad as the Spurs or Arsenal performances.

It was similar to the Spurs one, the Arsenal one we couldn't of complained if we'd lost 6-1

The thing with the Spurs game was that they (OK, Son) were carving us open at will. It could've easily been 4 or 5 if Kane wasn't such a mardy bum and actually tried.

But West Ham did sod all other than a couple of speculative hits where we gave them too much time and up until the sending off, just like the Wolves game, on another day it could've easily been a draw.

[Steve67]

That's part of the issue though Ad@m with us standing so far off them, giving them far too much respect and many of our players either ambling back or simply standing and watching as West Ham attacked.  The efforts of Taggart, Bailey and El Ghazi yesterday for the goals were absolutely awful. All about opinions I guess but I thought large elements of yesterday's game was as bad as the Arsenal game. A six and two three's, so to speak!

[martin o`who??]

The worst part about yesterday was we EXPECTED to lose and we did.
Best West Ham side I can remember - quality all over the pitch and they never stepped running. If Declan Rice continues to step up he is going to be some player - not that he already isn't. The only plus point from yesterday was Ollie looked a bit more like the Ollie of last season even though he had fuck-all to feed off. We keep hearing how well we bought in pre-season but only Ings was proven Premiership quality. We've now conceded 12 goals in four games and lost the lot. We went as soon as the fourth went in but my mind went back to that 4:1 obliteration of the Hammers on boxing day 1976 and the optimism it generated  - that seems a million years gone at the minute.

[brontebilly]

That's part of the issue though Ad@m with us standing so far off them, giving them far too much respect and many of our players either ambling back or simply standing and watching as West Ham attacked.  The efforts of Taggart, Bailey and El Ghazi yesterday for the goals were absolutely awful. All about opinions I guess but I thought large elements of yesterday's game was as bad as the Arsenal game. A six and two three's, so to speak!

I thought we were really poor at 11 v 11. Sure Martinez should be saving both their first two goals but we completely ceded control of our midfield to them. With the exception of Watkins, we were putting no pressure on them without the ball. With the ball, there was no cohesion at all really bar a fine move for our goal which was completely out of the blue. A bit of a fightback at 1-2 with 10 men but three of our rearranged back four lost their heads completely. Konsa can have no complaints for me with that stupid decision he made and as for the other 2 with their MMA tackles. All out of character. What's got into our players?

[VinnieChase84]

I would be astonished if he got another 3 games.

You wont have to be astonished mate

Just your opinion or do you know something Vinnie?

Posted last week on what the situation was and lay of the land (that sounds Dickish and don’t mean it to) but
Think I’ve tried to be as honest as I can be with the situation. Nothing changed