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Author Topic: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.  (Read 35864 times)

Offline VinnieChase84

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #255 on: November 01, 2021, 12:16:28 PM »
I tell you what, I'm becoming more convinced on Rice. I didn't think much of him before but he's a top player isn't he?

Prob my favourite non Villa player in the league. Lads quality

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #256 on: November 01, 2021, 12:33:14 PM »
Man U should have gone for Rice rather than Sancho in the summer.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #257 on: November 01, 2021, 12:35:07 PM »
I tell you what, I'm becoming more convinced on Rice. I didn't think much of him before but he's a top player isn't he?

Prob my favourite non Villa player in the league. Lads quality

Me too, I thinks he's superb. I've been very impressed ever since the second game we had against them last season. Also every time he plays for England he's excellent.


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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #258 on: November 01, 2021, 12:36:49 PM »
I tell you what, I'm becoming more convinced on Rice. I didn't think much of him before but he's a top player isn't he?

Prob my favourite non Villa player in the league. Lads quality

Me too, I thinks he's superb. I've been very impressed ever since the second game we had against them last season. Also every time he plays for England he's excellent.



I'd written off as a bit of a clogger but I'll eat my words, he was imperious yesterday.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #259 on: November 01, 2021, 12:39:25 PM »
Man U should have gone for Rice rather than Sancho in the summer.

100%. Best player on the park yesterday by some distance.

Reflecting on the result a day after I do believe the 4-1 was a harsh result on us, but that's the way things go when you're in a bad run of form.

The next three games are pivotal in whether Smith goes or stays. He's definitely built up enough credit to be allowed that time to turn it round - if we get 6+ points from those three we could potentially move back into the top half.

However, if the performances and results over these three games follow the trend of October, with easier opponents in Southampton, Brighton and Palace, then no excuses - he'll have had a third of a season and shown no progress in moving us forward post-Joe, with a decent, top-half-capable squad - and I think the owners would be justified in looking at replacements.

One positive should the worst case scenario occur is that we have a very good interim option in Craig Shakespeare on our bench already, with plenty of experience managing in the PL - so we wouldn't need to rush for an appointment and could take our time (relatively) in getting the right man in.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #260 on: November 01, 2021, 12:45:51 PM »
I would be astonished if he got another 3 games.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #261 on: November 01, 2021, 12:52:30 PM »
Not a great time to be playing any of them!

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #262 on: November 01, 2021, 12:52:56 PM »
Jorginho or Rice?
Only one is a technician in my eyes.
Busquets or Soucek ?
Only one is a technician in my eyes.
Nah, sorry: disagree with you. All 4 mentioned are technically gifted and physically imposing.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #263 on: November 01, 2021, 12:56:26 PM »
Very disappointed with the game yesterday and it was also freezing at Villa Park the highlight for me was talking to Mr John Russell it was a pleasure to chat to him before the game.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2021, 01:01:48 PM by darren woolley »

Offline VinnieChase84

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #264 on: November 01, 2021, 01:02:51 PM »
I would be astonished if he got another 3 games.


You wont have to be astonished mate

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #265 on: November 01, 2021, 01:12:18 PM »
I think Dean Smith has 1 game to save himself. If we don't get a good performance at the Saints and concede yet another 3 or 4 goals it's Au Revoir.

Reasoning is there is then a 2 week gap in which to recruit a new man, sort the defence out first by making us hard to break down and using something called 'coaching' to transition the ball from defence to midfield to the forwards without hoofing it or trying to throw the ball further.

It's possible that Mings had a go at Smith, Smith had a go back and benched him. Players aren't happy. This is the best squad for years we are in the bottom 6!

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #266 on: November 01, 2021, 01:28:21 PM »
Man U should have gone for Rice rather than Sancho in the summer.

100%. Best player on the park yesterday by some distance.

Reflecting on the result a day after I do believe the 4-1 was a harsh result on us, but that's the way things go when you're in a bad run of form.

The next three games are pivotal in whether Smith goes or stays. He's definitely built up enough credit to be allowed that time to turn it round - if we get 6+ points from those three we could potentially move back into the top half.

However, if the performances and results over these three games follow the trend of October, with easier opponents in Southampton, Brighton and Palace, then no excuses - he'll have had a third of a season and shown no progress in moving us forward post-Joe, with a decent, top-half-capable squad - and I think the owners would be justified in looking at replacements.

One positive should the worst case scenario occur is that we have a very good interim option in Craig Shakespeare on our bench already, with plenty of experience managing in the PL - so we wouldn't need to rush for an appointment and could take our time (relatively) in getting the right man in.
Palace beat Citeh and Brighton came from 2 goals down to draw with Liverpool. Easier opponents?

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #267 on: November 01, 2021, 01:48:35 PM »
Plus we're terrible at Selhurst Park and never beat Brighton.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #268 on: November 01, 2021, 01:54:39 PM »
I tell you what, I'm becoming more convinced on Rice. I didn't think much of him before but he's a top player isn't he?

Prob my favourite non Villa player in the league. Lads quality
I said exactly the same during the game….until he scored then I decided I don’t like him after all.

He is a top player.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #269 on: November 01, 2021, 02:12:18 PM »
I would be astonished if he got another 3 games.


You wont have to be astonished mate
Just your opinion or do you know something Vinnie?

 


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