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Author Topic: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.  (Read 35927 times)

Offline Risso

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #165 on: October 31, 2021, 10:41:12 PM »
He was today, ours was dire.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #166 on: October 31, 2021, 10:43:46 PM »
Our goal was easier to stop than any of theirs.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #167 on: October 31, 2021, 10:44:35 PM »
I thought we were at our best when down to 10. There was a shift in momentum after the ref failed to play advantage when El Ghazi was through. I thought he was going to send West Ham player off given he stopped it. He then did play advantage a minute later and West Ham had their third, scored by the player who fouled Nakamba of course.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #168 on: October 31, 2021, 10:45:03 PM »
Sorry Footy but I've checked the score on the BBC, Sky and everywhere and apparently it was a 4-1 beating.  We all know what you mean but it's the same story every week amd it's not good enough.  It's great to be positive but it's also important to be realistic.  We ARE in a relegation battle and anyone who thinks we aren't are deluding themselves

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #169 on: October 31, 2021, 10:45:07 PM »
If you watched that game and surmised that Buendia was ‘very good’ then I can only assume you don’t have eyes. He was diabolical. Absolutely weak as piss and reminds me of Carles Gill, too lightweight for the premier league. 

He did well to set up our goal. Apart from that, meh.

He did but any remaining modicum of credit in the bank for that evaporated when he stormed off down the tunnel. I hope he gets fucking dropped for that

What? Should he be pleased at being substituted? If it was me I'd rather go and get in the shower than sit around on the bench stinking. Some people have decided they hate Buendia and will find any old reason to have a go at him. He wasn't brilliant today, but was still one of our better players, and shouldn't have been substituted.

What do you mean ‘what’ ? It’s fine to disagree without patronising me but in my view you stay on the bench and you don’t fuck off down the tunnel like a petulant child.  He was absolutely awful and would probably have been hooked anyway given his performance. As for ‘some people have decided….’ I’ve no issue with Buendia whatsoever, I’d love him to do well, but you stay on the bench you don’t storm off.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #170 on: October 31, 2021, 10:46:27 PM »
Generally speaking it was a very poor display though. We are leaking goals at quite an alarming rate and the team's confidence seems to be rock bottom as a consequence. So disappointing to be looking over our shoulders yet again in a Premier League season.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #171 on: October 31, 2021, 10:47:22 PM »
If you watched that game and surmised that Buendia was ‘very good’ then I can only assume you don’t have eyes. He was diabolical. Absolutely weak as piss and reminds me of Carles Gill, too lightweight for the premier league. 

He did well to set up our goal. Apart from that, meh.

He did but any remaining modicum of credit in the bank for that evaporated when he stormed off down the tunnel. I hope he gets fucking dropped for that

The Championship is far more physical than the PL, yet he excelled there. Unlike Carlos, he is a solid unit.

As for storming off, there seems to be dissent with the camp; not unusual when the wheels fall off. I agree there must be a price to pay for petulance, but at this rate all our new signings will be sidelined, and we will be pre-Joe withhout a paddle.   

I disagree, you get away with more in the Championship thanks to the wank standard of refereeing but the players aren't as strong, aren't as quick and aren't as clever.

Clever yes; quick and strong no.  IMHO.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #172 on: October 31, 2021, 10:48:12 PM »
I suppose you could argue if it would have been a 4-1 game had Konsa not gone. The only thing I can remember them doing in that first half was score from two long range goals. Don't get me wrong, we weren't great and we were always going to concede again trying to get back into it.

Just an alternative look at it.

Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #173 on: October 31, 2021, 10:48:40 PM »
Come on you think that was a 4-1 result ?
Not to me and 3 West Ham fans said same to me
Dean Smith said it
And their players and manager weren't convinced of their victory

Considering that west ham were 4th and form team they hardly outshone us

What on earth are you talking about? When you consistently allow 20+ goals on your goal, theres a good chance you will get thrashed.


I posted further down about the West ham forum link with plenty seeing that they didn't play well and it wasn't a 4-1
Nothing more needs to be said by me . Unlucky in parts tonight  in a strange game . And as everyone saw and many said we actually bossed and outplayed them with 10 men

Anyway I focus on Southampton now.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2021, 10:55:53 PM by Footy-Vill »

Offline The_ads

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #174 on: October 31, 2021, 10:49:34 PM »
I suppose you could argue if it would have been a 4-1 game had Konsa not gone. The only thing I can remember them doing in that first half was score from two long range goals. Don't get me wrong, we weren't great and we were always going to concede again trying to get back into it.

Just an alternative look at it.


We also cleared one off the line.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #175 on: October 31, 2021, 10:50:44 PM »
If you watched that game and surmised that Buendia was ‘very good’ then I can only assume you don’t have eyes. He was diabolical. Absolutely weak as piss and reminds me of Carles Gill, too lightweight for the premier league. 

He did well to set up our goal. Apart from that, meh.

He did but any remaining modicum of credit in the bank for that evaporated when he stormed off down the tunnel. I hope he gets fucking dropped for that

What? Should he be pleased at being substituted? If it was me I'd rather go and get in the shower than sit around on the bench stinking. Some people have decided they hate Buendia and will find any old reason to have a go at him. He wasn't brilliant today, but was still one of our better players, and shouldn't have been substituted.

What do you mean ‘what’ ? It’s fine to disagree without patronising me but in my view you stay on the bench and you don’t fuck off down the tunnel like a petulant child.  He was absolutely awful and would probably have been hooked anyway given his performance. As for ‘some people have decided….’ I’ve no issue with Buendia whatsoever, I’d love him to do well, but you stay on the bench you don’t storm off.

I said "what" as fail to see why anyone would care whether a substituted player walks off or stays on the bench. Substituted players leave early all the time, you see that corner of the Lower Trinity clapping them off. You've decided to make an issue out of nothing.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #176 on: October 31, 2021, 10:51:32 PM »
https://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=181625&start=680
Plenty saw it not as a 4-1 and West Ham not being so good
« Last Edit: October 31, 2021, 11:03:57 PM by Footy-Vill »

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #177 on: October 31, 2021, 10:53:56 PM »
I suppose you could argue if it would have been a 4-1 game had Konsa not gone. The only thing I can remember them doing in that first half was score from two long range goals. Don't get me wrong, we weren't great and we were always going to concede again trying to get back into it.

Just an alternative look at it.


We also cleared one off the line.

We also hit the bar at 2-1. Like I said, it wasnt great but I'm just pondering if we would have got anything out of it with 11 men. I've still not seen the sending off by the way.

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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #178 on: October 31, 2021, 10:57:19 PM »
They were miles better than us. Full of confidence, passing the ball around like they owned the place, real physical presence and a desire to win. If we played an away fixture like that we’d be slapping each other on the back into next week, we just made it offensively easy for them.

Yeah the refereeing was shit but we could replay that match ten times and we’d lose them all.

We were absolutely pathetic from start to finish. On top of that we managed to look like a team who genuinely didn’t know what they were supposed to be doing

I can’t believe anyone thinks that was anywhere near acceptable.


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Re: Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.
« Reply #179 on: October 31, 2021, 10:58:30 PM »
It was a 4-1 in the same way that lots of games are when a manager is under pressure. We did nothing particularly well and that then got added to by poor decisions from the ref, bad luck and everyone seeming to give up.

 


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