Aston Villa 1-4 West Ham Post match debacle.

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If you watched that game and surmised that Buendia was ‘very good’ then I can only assume you don’t have eyes. He was diabolical. Absolutely weak as piss and reminds me of Carles Gill, too lightweight for the premier league. 

He did well to set up our goal. Apart from that, meh.

He did but any remaining modicum of credit in the bank for that evaporated when he stormed off down the tunnel. I hope he gets fucking dropped for that

[charlatan]

Once again there is something toxic at Villa Park.  For me the coaching departures and recruitment need to be put under the microscope. There's too much that isn't working - and has in actual fact gone backwards since last season.

Presumably this must happen to teams in roughly half of all their seasons?

[VILLA MOLE]

Come on you think that was a 4-1 result ?
Not to me and 3 West Ham fans said same to me
Dean Smith said it
And their players and manager weren't convinced of their victory

Considering that west ham were 4th and form team they hardly outshone us

They didnt need to get of 3rd gear I am afraid that is the worry for me ,  but I admire your optimism

[Legion]

Come on you think that was a 4-1 result ?
Not to me and 3 West Ham fans said same to me
Dean Smith said it
And their players and manager weren't convinced of their victory

Considering that west ham were 4th and form team they hardly outshone us

They were all over us.

[Risso]

Come on you think that was a 4-1 result ?
Not to me and 3 West Ham fans said same to me
Dean Smith said it
And their players and manager weren't convinced of their victory

Considering that west ham were 4th and form team they hardly outshone us

Well of course Dean Smith said it, he's a delusional idiot fighting for his job. Everything about them was better than us today. Passing, movement, pressing, defence. Even befre the sending off.

[cdbearsfan]

If you watched that game and surmised that Buendia was ‘very good’ then I can only assume you don’t have eyes. He was diabolical. Absolutely weak as piss and reminds me of Carles Gill, too lightweight for the premier league. 

He did well to set up our goal. Apart from that, meh.

He did but any remaining modicum of credit in the bank for that evaporated when he stormed off down the tunnel. I hope he gets fucking dropped for that

What? Should he be pleased at being substituted? If it was me I'd rather go and get in the shower than sit around on the bench stinking. Some people have decided they hate Buendia and will find any old reason to have a go at him. He wasn't brilliant today, but was still one of our better players, and shouldn't have been substituted.

[AV82EC]

The trouble with saying it wasn’t a 4-1 kind of game ( I actually agree with it)  unfortunately for Smith it comes on the back of it not being a 3-0 vs Chelsea and it being a tight game at Spurs and not deserving what happened against Wolves and it was tighter than the 3-1 at Arsenal suggested. That to me is looking like a pattern and from his perspective he should be worried because if it continues he’ll be sacked. I personally don’t feel that’s now but I’m starting to be less convinced as the weeks go by.

[Steve67]

I have just watched the goals back and it is easy to see the laziness that has crept in.  Targett, tad harsh, but Bailey for the first goal.  No-one at all closing Rice down for the second.  Third was on the break but players well out of position and the fourth, whilst not directly El Ghazi's fault, he was literally walking and watching from the edge of the box.  They look like they are not playing for the manager.   I also hadn't realised at the time that Nakamba has rolled and rolled, making the tackle he received from Fornals seemingly a lesser offence and I wonder if that is why the referee hasn't sent Fornals off for the challenge.   As for Buendia, no-one should celebrate getting substituted but I would have preferred for him to sit on the bench and support his team-mates instead of walking down the tunnel in a sulk, almost, but not quite as petulant as anything Barkley did, or Sanson.

[adrenachrome]

If you watched that game and surmised that Buendia was ‘very good’ then I can only assume you don’t have eyes. He was diabolical. Absolutely weak as piss and reminds me of Carles Gill, too lightweight for the premier league. 

He did well to set up our goal. Apart from that, meh.

He did but any remaining modicum of credit in the bank for that evaporated when he stormed off down the tunnel. I hope he gets fucking dropped for that

The Championship is far more physical than the PL, yet he excelled there. Unlike Carlos, he is a solid unit.

As for storming off, there seems to be dissent with the camp; not unusual when the wheels fall off. I agree there must be a price to pay for petulance, but at this rate all our new signings will be sidelined, and we will be pre-Joe withhout a paddle.   

[LukeJames]

Come on you think that was a 4-1 result ?
Not to me and 3 West Ham fans said same to me
Dean Smith said it
And their players and manager weren't convinced of their victory

Considering that west ham were 4th and form team they hardly outshone us

What on earth are you talking about? When you consistently allow 20+ goals on your goal, theres a good chance you will get thrashed.

[aj2k77]

The work rate isn't there at the moment, we've gone back to giving the opposition 20 shots a game. The discipline isn't there, either in keeping shape, decision making or sniping and kicking out at opponents. The clarity of thought isn't there from the manager, muddled decisions and formations. He's done a decent job, had a huge whack to spend which has obviously helped him but for me we need someone with more nous to help us make the next step.

Buendia is so weak, compare him to a strong, quick, clever Grealish. He can pick a pass if given time but is too easy for the opposition to physically dominate out of a game. Very underwhelming and his little tantrum highlights the lack of discipline running throughout at the moment.

The long throws. Utter tripe. Defending set pieces and continually being mismatched with smaller players expected to mark much bigger ones, confusing. Hacking at the ball whenever crosses come in to the box, I lose count of the number of times a game we invite pressure on by failing to deal with balls in to the box first time, thanks to a swipe.

It's really really poor viewing at the moment. If I spent £300 million i'd be wanting a lot more than excuses and Nakamba, Ramsey and McGinn as my centre midfield.

[Footy-Vill]

Well I'll leave it there as we can all have different takes.
Facts are we lost which isn't great.

Will see how we get on next match.
Hope for something bettwr and more luck as was all disappointing in the end when full of hope at start and even at half time.

[aj2k77]

If you watched that game and surmised that Buendia was ‘very good’ then I can only assume you don’t have eyes. He was diabolical. Absolutely weak as piss and reminds me of Carles Gill, too lightweight for the premier league. 

He did well to set up our goal. Apart from that, meh.

He did but any remaining modicum of credit in the bank for that evaporated when he stormed off down the tunnel. I hope he gets fucking dropped for that

The Championship is far more physical than the PL, yet he excelled there. Unlike Carlos, he is a solid unit.

As for storming off, there seems to be dissent with the camp; not unusual when the wheels fall off. I agree there must be a price to pay for petulance, but at this rate all our new signings will be sidelined, and we will be pre-Joe withhout a paddle.   

I disagree, you get away with more in the Championship thanks to the wank standard of refereeing but the players aren't as strong, aren't as quick and aren't as clever.

[charlatan]

Come on you think that was a 4-1 result ?
Not to me and 3 West Ham fans said same to me
Dean Smith said it
And their players and manager weren't convinced of their victory

Considering that west ham were 4th and form team they hardly outshone us

Well of course Dean Smith said it, he's a delusional idiot fighting for his job. Everything about them was better than us today. Passing, movement, pressing, defence. Even befre the sending off.

Not their goalkeeper

[charlatan]

Come on you think that was a 4-1 result ?
Not to me and 3 West Ham fans said same to me
Dean Smith said it
And their players and manager weren't convinced of their victory

Considering that west ham were 4th and form team they hardly outshone us

What on earth are you talking about? When you consistently allow 20+ goals on your goal, theres a good chance you will get thrashed.

Good point. We never score 20.