Chelsea vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[DB]

There's no soul with how Man City play. Absolutely everything about them is a dull corporate grey.

Would you feel this way if Villa were beating teams 5-0 and dominating possession and controlling games? What Man City do is impressive and to be honest what I'd like to see more than anything is Villa looking like a team that can dominate others through relentless possession of the ball and controlling the tempo of a game.

We rarely look like we can do that and until we can we won't be knocking on the door of European football.

If we were doing that, we'd be doing it in our way. The Man City way is utterly tedious, death by a thousand passes. All in front of bored senseless fans, yawning away amongst the empty seats in a soulless exhibition centre, brought occasionally to colour by the blinking lights of their digital advertising hording flags. Is it over? Have we won yet? Oh yes, he's Roll With It, we must have won. Again. Time for another quarter of a billion of left backs? Is it a Tuesday night? Let's boo the anthem of the competition. Have our owners hanged any of the LGBT community recently? Who knows, who cares, our manager wears pumps and a jumper!

I want us to win trophies. I want us to never look anything like that abomination.

Good summary

[Skerra]

Been a right balls up by FIFA. Clubs that didn’t release players for South American matches won at the end of the day. No one punished. Clubs like Villa, who did release the players now have our players in Croatia. No justice at all and needs to be sorted before the next round of matches.

[brontebilly]

Why Tuanzebe gets in ahead of Hause, I don't really understand. Is that just me?

Hause is horrific in a back 3....maybe a bit of a surprise Tuanzebe played ahead of him at LCB v Brentford alright but he did well

[Sexual Ealing]

Been a right balls up by FIFA. Clubs that didn’t release players for South American matches won at the end of the day. No one punished. Clubs like Villa, who did release the players now have our players in Croatia. No justice at all and needs to be sorted before the next round of matches.

It's more of a UK government issue than a FIFA one. I don't necessarily agree or disagree with the quarantine policy, but it's hardly FIFA's problem.

[Skerra]

The problem is that FIFA said if clubs didn’t release the players, they would be banned from playing for their clubs for 5 days. They then changed their minds and allowed them all to play, which is why I think Villa were hard done by. The Villa problem was made by our government’s quarantine rules but, fifa didn’t carry out their threat either.

[Percy McCarthy]

There's no soul with how Man City play. Absolutely everything about them is a dull corporate grey.

Would you feel this way if Villa were beating teams 5-0 and dominating possession and controlling games? What Man City do is impressive and to be honest what I'd like to see more than anything is Villa looking like a team that can dominate others through relentless possession of the ball and controlling the tempo of a game.

We rarely look like we can do that and until we can we won't be knocking on the door of European football.

If we were doing that, we'd be doing it in our way. The Man City way is utterly tedious, death by a thousand passes. All in front of bored senseless fans, yawning away amongst the empty seats in a soulless exhibition centre, brought occasionally to colour by the blinking lights of their digital advertising hording flags. Is it over? Have we won yet? Oh yes, he's Roll With It, we must have won. Again. Time for another quarter of a billion of left backs? Is it a Tuesday night? Let's boo the anthem of the competition. Have our owners hanged any of the LGBT community recently? Who knows, who cares, our manager wears pumps and a jumper!

I want us to win trophies. I want us to never look anything like that abomination.

Standing ovation.

[Pat McMahon]

Disappointed with the result good first half great day out at Chelsea with friends.

Has the away end been improved or is it still a bit basic?

Seating wise, in the upper tier in the corner of the Shed it is a reasonable view. Nothing like the opposite end in the 80s + 90s which was a tip. One thing that strikes me at Chelsea is that it has roughly the same capacity as Villa Park but you are much closer to the pitch, even in the upper tier.

Yesterday was really annoying as they took their chances and we fluffed ours. The half time score was a travesty, although one problem was once they had passed our high press we were in trouble. Kovacic (sp?) had far too much time to play an admittedly good ball for their first goal. I thought we didn't take our chances cleanly and paid the price.

Mings' poor back pass was a real blow but I think that Jorginho made a massive difference to their game, and gave them much more control in midfield. Saul had been outmuscled in the first half and once Jorginho came on they just had too much know how for us. I thought Mings should have done better for the 3rd but he was already on a yellow so possibly held back from a clever foul.

Overall we played pretty well but were just not good enough in key moments. I thought McGinn and Ramsey were very good, with Watkins not too far behind. The fans responded to this and our support yesterday was the best I have heard away from home in a long time (obvious comment re Covid notwithstanding) and the players earned a very good ovation at the end.

4 points from 4 games is a poor return compared to the fab start last season, so we really need to get 3 points from Everton next week with trips to Manyoo and Spurs to follow.

[Allan C]

I don't know what aspurations are but I'd be aspiring to something better than we have - Potter in.

Sorry but absolutely not

[Allan C]

Why Tuanzebe gets in ahead of Hause, I don't really understand. Is that just me?

Apparently Manure are very insistent on the terms they loan players out.
So instead of Mings taking Lukaku and Hause left side, he pushes Mings to the Left to accommodate Tuazabe at centre half and we saw how that turned out.
1-0 Chelsea.

Another reason why I hate loans

[The Edge]

There's no soul with how Man City play. Absolutely everything about them is a dull corporate grey.

Would you feel this way if Villa were beating teams 5-0 and dominating possession and controlling games? What Man City do is impressive and to be honest what I'd like to see more than anything is Villa looking like a team that can dominate others through relentless possession of the ball and controlling the tempo of a game.

We rarely look like we can do that and until we can we won't be knocking on the door of European football.

If we were doing that, we'd be doing it in our way. The Man City way is utterly tedious, death by a thousand passes. All in front of bored senseless fans, yawning away amongst the empty seats in a soulless exhibition centre, brought occasionally to colour by the blinking lights of their digital advertising hording flags. Is it over? Have we won yet? Oh yes, he's Roll With It, we must have won. Again. Time for another quarter of a billion of left backs? Is it a Tuesday night? Let's boo the anthem of the competition. Have our owners hanged any of the LGBT community recently? Who knows, who cares, our manager wears pumps and a jumper!

I want us to win trophies. I want us to never look anything like that abomination.

Great rant sir!

[eamonn]

Another one who missed the most of the game as I was watching the Gaelic Football final and hoping Mayo would finally stop being the Sunderland of GAA. I did worry at half time that Deano would be saying "More of the same guys, well done" as it was inevitable Tommy Tippee would change things for Chelsea given how good we had been, the quality on their bench and their debutant Saul Goodman not being quite at the races. Sure enough, Jorginho comes on and steadies their ship. They get a gimme of a second goal and we then sacrifice our best player, young JJ to try and get back in the game. Surely Luiz was the one to be hooked in that instance?

[Brazilian Villain]

Another one who missed the most of the game as I was watching the Gaelic Football final and hoping Mayo would finally stop being the Sunderland of GAA.

A bit harsh on Sunderland as they won at Wembley this year. Can you imagine if we'd lost 10 FA Cup finals in 25 years and 6 since 2012? We'd be a bit miffed to say the least.

[Brazilian Villain]

Has the away end been improved or is it still a bit basic?

Seating wise, in the upper tier in the corner of the Shed it is a reasonable view. Nothing like the opposite end in the 80s + 90s which was a tip. One thing that strikes me at Chelsea is that it has roughly the same capacity as Villa Park but you are much closer to the pitch, even in the upper tier.

I've only ever been in the lower tier,  not great inside from what I remember.

[eamonn]

Another one who missed the most of the game as I was watching the Gaelic Football final and hoping Mayo would finally stop being the Sunderland of GAA.

A bit harsh on Sunderland as they won at Wembley this year. Can you imagine if we'd lost 10 FA Cup finals in 25 years and 6 since 2012? We'd be a bit miffed to say the least.

I discount Sunderland winning a Zenith Data equivalent, just like I would cringe at us adding the play-off trophy to our list of honours. It would be like counting Mayo winning an O'Byrne Cup or whatever, although the poor bastards have probably never managed that either.

[Brazilian Villain]

Another one who missed the most of the game as I was watching the Gaelic Football final and hoping Mayo would finally stop being the Sunderland of GAA.

A bit harsh on Sunderland as they won at Wembley this year. Can you imagine if we'd lost 10 FA Cup finals in 25 years and 6 since 2012? We'd be a bit miffed to say the least.

I discount Sunderland winning a Zenith Data equivalent, just like I would cringe at us adding the play-off trophy to our list of honours. It would be like counting Mayo winning an O'Byrne Cup or whatever, although the poor bastards have probably never managed that either.

I'd be very impressed if they won the O'Byrne as it's for Leinster teams, in Connacht it's the Dwyer Cup (FBD League).

Tottenham's FA Cup semi-final final record is probably the closest comparison in England as both they and Mayo have been top 6/8 teams for about 30 years now and won diddly-squat.