Chelsea vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Scott Nielsen]

Why Tuanzebe gets in ahead of Hause, I don't really understand. Is that just me?

[Monty]

The 5-3-2 was a load of bollocks and cost us the game. It did mean that we had a proper midfield 3 for once, which is why Luiz and McGinn looked better than they usually do in that godawful 4-2-3-1 that Smith is so bafflingly enamoured with. But all having the extra man meant is that we had Tuanzebe in, who is crap, and that Mings looked confused as to where he was supposed to be, and it's a job getting him to concentrate for 90 minutes at the best of times. A proper 4-3-3 and I reckon we could have got something out of that.

Totally disagree . We set up well and matched them well apart from the first goal. The Mings catastrophe killed us , and knocked the stuffing out of the players. We would have got a draw at least but for that, we were on top.

But here's the difference. We bought Wesley for 20m, he didn't work out , everyone questions recruitment policy,manager, everything. Chelsea bought Werner for 50m, he didnt work, they replaced him with Lukaku for 97m, no-one questions anything.

The Guardian match reports says we "matched Chelsea’s 3-4-3 system" which I took the mean we played the same formation. Which made no sense looking at the players we fielded.

Yeah I thought that was strange too, as we clearly went 3-5-2. In fact this was the key to how we played, as we outnumbered them in the centre.

[Rigadon]

Ramsey is really developing nicely. I was skeptical after last season, as he didn't seem to influence games he started in and didn't seem to have a position. But he's really improved and kicked on. Made their new boy look a mug.

Agreed, he appears to have more belief in himself now. He’s made himself a genuine contender for a place rather than somebody who can step in when we’re short.

He certainly caught the eye yesterday.  Maybe (and hopefully) the lack of midfield signings in the window was because they have massive faith in the players coming through the ranks.   

[ChicagoLion]

Why Tuanzebe gets in ahead of Hause, I don't really understand. Is that just me?

Apparently Manure are very insistent on the terms they loan players out.
So instead of Mings taking Lukaku and Hause left side, he pushes Mings to the Left to accommodate Tuazabe at centre half and we saw how that turned out.
1-0 Chelsea.

[exigo]

Decent performance, and the difference ultimately was that Lukaku finished his chances, and Mendy saved the equivalent chance for Watkins.

The thing I really can't get over from yesterday was just how dead the home fans were. No atmosphere at all. For all I want us to be successful, I'd hate for Villa Park to become a soulless half-and-half scarf day trip out.

[Chris Smith]

Why Tuanzebe gets in ahead of Hause, I don't really understand. Is that just me?

Apparently Manure are very insistent on the terms they loan players out.
So instead of Mings taking Lukaku and Hause left side, he pushes Mings to the Left to accommodate Tuazabe at centre half and we saw how that turned out.
1-0 Chelsea.

I don’t see that. When Tuanzebe came on the other week he played as a holding midfield player. If Mings plays in a 3 for England it’s on the left so seemed the natural place for him.

[ChicagoLion]

Why Tuanzebe gets in ahead of Hause, I don't really understand. Is that just me?

Apparently Manure are very insistent on the terms they loan players out.
So instead of Mings taking Lukaku and Hause left side, he pushes Mings to the Left to accommodate Tuazabe at centre half and we saw how that turned out.
1-0 Chelsea.

I don’t see that. When Tuanzebe came on the other week he played as a holding midfield player. If Mings plays in a 3 for England it’s on the left so seemed the natural place for him.

I would have thought that the Senior Pro and Captain would have been detailed to handle the biggest threat.
Instead of putting the rookie loan player on the spot.

[Chris Smith]

Why Tuanzebe gets in ahead of Hause, I don't really understand. Is that just me?

Apparently Manure are very insistent on the terms they loan players out.
So instead of Mings taking Lukaku and Hause left side, he pushes Mings to the Left to accommodate Tuazabe at centre half and we saw how that turned out.
1-0 Chelsea.

I don’t see that. When Tuanzebe came on the other week he played as a holding midfield player. If Mings plays in a 3 for England it’s on the left so seemed the natural place for him.

I would have thought that the Senior Pro and Captain would have been detailed to handle the biggest threat.
Instead of putting the rookie loan player on the spot.

You can’t have 3 centre backs constantly having to swap over depending on when the striker pops up.

[Bobby Boy]

There's no soul with how Man City play. Absolutely everything about them is a dull corporate grey.

Would you feel this way if Villa were beating teams 5-0 and dominating possession and controlling games? What Man City do is impressive and to be honest what I'd like to see more than anything is Villa looking like a team that can dominate others through relentless possession of the ball and controlling the tempo of a game.

We rarely look like we can do that and until we can we won't be knocking on the door of European football.

[Ads]

There's no soul with how Man City play. Absolutely everything about them is a dull corporate grey.

Would you feel this way if Villa were beating teams 5-0 and dominating possession and controlling games? What Man City do is impressive and to be honest what I'd like to see more than anything is Villa looking like a team that can dominate others through relentless possession of the ball and controlling the tempo of a game.

We rarely look like we can do that and until we can we won't be knocking on the door of European football.

If we were doing that, we'd be doing it in our way. The Man City way is utterly tedious, death by a thousand passes. All in front of bored senseless fans, yawning away amongst the empty seats in a soulless exhibition centre, brought occasionally to colour by the blinking lights of their digital advertising hording flags. Is it over? Have we won yet? Oh yes, he's Roll With It, we must have won. Again. Time for another quarter of a billion of left backs? Is it a Tuesday night? Let's boo the anthem of the competition. Have our owners hanged any of the LGBT community recently? Who knows, who cares, our manager wears pumps and a jumper!

I want us to win trophies. I want us to never look anything like that abomination.

[darren woolley]

Disappointed with the result good first half great day out at Chelsea with friends.

[Brazilian Villain]

The thing I really can't get over from yesterday was just how dead the home fans were. No atmosphere at all. For all I want us to be successful, I'd hate for Villa Park to become a soulless half-and-half scarf day trip out.

Same here. I follow a Brazilian girl from Belem on Twitter since she tweeted on Grealish. She likes Jack but is a keen Chelsea "fan", pictures in her Chelsea shirt etc. During the international break she was was posting videos of the England team (nothing on Brasil), retweeted Mings' statement with an "Amo" (I love) and tweets about watching the PL all day on Saturday instead of drinking with her mates. Just a random example of the PL's spread and the how some clubs such as Chelski have "supporters" with no natural affiliation to the club.

[RamboandBruno]

Only saw last 20 of either half as watching Mayo lose again. I dont really like praising us when get thumped, almost like the mentality of being a happy loser. However, from what i saw, we actually did play really well.
To my mind if we can play like that every week, we will win a lot more than we will lose. Just want us to get some points on the board quickly now to take the pressure of. Despite their good start, Everton are beatable, looking forwards to that next week.

[Brazilian Villain]

Disappointed with the result good first half great day out at Chelsea with friends.

Has the away end been improved or is it still a bit basic?

[dave.woodhall]

There's no soul with how Man City play. Absolutely everything about them is a dull corporate grey.

Would you feel this way if Villa were beating teams 5-0 and dominating possession and controlling games? What Man City do is impressive and to be honest what I'd like to see more than anything is Villa looking like a team that can dominate others through relentless possession of the ball and controlling the tempo of a game.

We rarely look like we can do that and until we can we won't be knocking on the door of European football.

If we were doing that, we'd be doing it in our way. The Man City way is utterly tedious, death by a thousand passes. All in front of bored senseless fans, yawning away amongst the empty seats in a soulless exhibition centre, brought occasionally to colour by the blinking lights of their digital advertising hording flags. Is it over? Have we won yet? Oh yes, he's Roll With It, we must have won. Again. Time for another quarter of a billion of left backs? Is it a Tuesday night? Let's boo the anthem of the competition. Have our owners hanged any of the LGBT community recently? Who knows, who cares, our manager wears pumps and a jumper!

I want us to win trophies. I want us to never look anything like that abomination.

But we will, and we all know it.