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Offline astonvilla82

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #135 on: August 14, 2021, 09:55:59 PM »
I am also fed up with excuses,as people said those at the top won't accept excuses and nor they shouldn't

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #136 on: August 14, 2021, 09:58:24 PM »
Tel you what we are the Kings of, Excuses
We’ve got bucket loads of them

One’s for playing top teams ones for playing bottom teams ones for playing newly promoted teams,
Cup games, League games, Big games, games played without Grealish
Games played with new signings, You name it there’s always a reason for playing shit

I’m sick of it
With our investment we should be beating Watford who have cleverly in midfield ffs
Or at least match them in every area on the pitch even if it doesn’t go our way

There is not one single thing that happened to the day that wasn’t predicted before the match
And we could do nothing about it

It was shocking, no excuses

Fucking this!

We have the best investment in our history.

We have one of the best youth systems in our history.

The opportunity to push us to an unparalleled level is there.

Dont fuck this up Villa.

Would help though if we had a much better historical record at replacing key players. Not sure when was the last time we lost a major player at prem level and actually improved. Obviously didn't happen in 2015 or 2011 so guessing Barry when he went in 2009 and we eventually slotted Milner in central.

Long time ago now that was. If we had Leicester's record of replacing key first team players then you'd have a reliable air of confidence but we're miles off that so the worry is the season will quickly unravel if we don't win either of the next two given how tough September looks.

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #137 on: August 14, 2021, 09:58:41 PM »
I thought that after queueing one and a half hours to get through the Dartford Tunnel on the way to the game things would only get better.
They didn't.
Agree with most of the above.
Targett had a 'mare. Put that one down to a bad day at the office.
Somebody should tell Cash he is not as good as he thinks he is. He might get mistaken for Joe. But he isn't. Should concentrate on getting the defensive basics right before he tries to be a winger.
But the main problem is we need a decent midfield, and we don't have one. McGinn might have scored a goal, but otherwise he was ineffective. Braveheart impersonations are not what are needed at this level.
On the subject of impersonations, Buendia did the headless chicken, complete with tantrums every time he lost the ball, which was often. I don't think he is good enough.

Plus points.

Bailey looked good.
And Traore changed the game when he came on.
Deano reacted and made changes at half-time for a change, rather than the 73rd minute. Probably should have taken more risks given the game was almost  lost. Maybe Philogene instead of Ramsey (too light weight and flatters to deceive).

Could be a long season.




Offline caster troy

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #138 on: August 14, 2021, 10:07:09 PM »
The writing was on the wall with the selection. El Ghazi can’t play right wing, that’s been obvious whenever we’ve tried him there before. Nakamba’s limitations are always exposed against teams we expect to be on the front foot against. Buendia recovering from injury. Young hasn’t played left wing for about six years? They must have been thrilled to see our lineup.


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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #139 on: August 14, 2021, 10:12:08 PM »
I haven't been impressed  with pre season so today was hardly a shock. The charitable view is that it looks as though the season is starting a couple of weeks too early for us. Nevertheless Deano said before the game that they had some inside knowledge  of Watford from Shakespeares time there . I'm afraid I saw previous little evidence of it.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2021, 10:44:24 PM by passport1 »

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #140 on: August 14, 2021, 10:45:12 PM »
Tel you what we are the Kings of, Excuses
We’ve got bucket loads of them

One’s for playing top teams ones for playing bottom teams ones for playing newly promoted teams,
Cup games, League games, Big games, games played without Grealish
Games played with new signings, You name it there’s always a reason for playing shit

I’m sick of it
With our investment we should be beating Watford who have cleverly in midfield ffs
Or at least match them in every area on the pitch even if it doesn’t go our way

There is not one single thing that happened to the day that wasn’t predicted before the match
And we could do nothing about it

It was shocking, no excuses

There are explanations though and it's pretty obvious that's what people are looking for. No one is happy with today, including, pretty clearly, Smith but if everyone just says it was shit and walks away how does it get fixed? I want the coaches looking for reasons and if you want to see that as excuses then feel free but that's a shitty attitude to take on the first day of the season.

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #141 on: August 14, 2021, 11:04:37 PM »
The line up was wrong in the first place. With the players we have now, El Ghazi shouldn’t be starting matches. Nakamba is too light weight for that role and, Smith needs to find a way of playing McGinn further up the pitch. Hopefully, Ollie can figure next week but, knowing Villa injuries, he’ll probably be out for 3 months. Let’s hope Smith has quickly learned that you have to press and attack your opponent, starting with Newcastle next Saturday.
You can still see a huge gulf between us and the really top teams who had no problem in dispatching their opponents today.

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #142 on: August 14, 2021, 11:06:49 PM »
All three subs improved us, that alone points to getting the starting eleven wrong and thats down to DS. I am curious as to why we bought a well accredited playmaker who is not a goal scorer and then use him as support for Ings, that and the fact that was definately still carrying an injury. Buendia will be great when he plays in his natural role. When I saw AEG was starting and our leading goalscorer was out I thought at best a draw.
The next few weeks will tell us plenty, but one thing is certain now, as most have said we are desperate for not one but two dominent midfielders, we were overun time and time again leaving the defence exposed. Get it done Dean.

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #143 on: August 14, 2021, 11:20:11 PM »
We were crap but their second goal, that basically decided the result, was the luckiest/spawniest one imaginable. The bloke is crossing the ball to nobody and Mings inadvertently wrong-foots Martínez.

The quality of McGinn's goal will probably get forgotten given it was a consolation. But that was a beauty, and should be in the Goal of the Month contenders.

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #144 on: August 14, 2021, 11:24:23 PM »
How many goals a season does Mings deflect the ball into his own net?

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« Reply #145 on: August 14, 2021, 11:26:14 PM »
I feel bad for him - he's already capable of coming up with his own clangers!

Dean mentioned in the post-match interview that we might have nicked a point had someone gone down for a second penalty at the death. Haven't seen it on the highlights so I presume he is clutching at straws?

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #146 on: August 15, 2021, 12:02:47 AM »
Yep.

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« Reply #147 on: August 15, 2021, 12:20:08 AM »
How many goals a season does Mings deflect the ball into his own net?

Sounds like lyrics to a Bob Dylan song

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #148 on: August 15, 2021, 12:29:51 AM »
Wince, now you say that, I remember the Dylan song about how many roads etc.

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #149 on: August 15, 2021, 12:30:05 AM »
The answer my friend, is blowing in the Mings?

 


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