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Offline PaulWinch again

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #225 on: August 16, 2021, 08:28:31 PM »
I think gelling is less of an issue than fitness. Targett and Buendia clearly weren’t fit and were exposed as a result.

Because it comes out of the big bag of excuses

Same as if players haven’t played for a while they are rusty
If they have played two games in the same week they are tired
Two or three new players in a team need time to gell
the same players in a team grow stale
Play rubbish first game of the season, no preseason
Play a player that’s over 32 he’s too old
Play a young player he’s not experienced enough
Player has a shit game, he’s obviously not fit

Honestly you can go on forever
It’s endless the excuses you can find




True, but some are more reasons than excuses. If you play players who aren’t fit enough against a team who seem to be physically ready you’re hindering yourselves, particularly if one of your unfit players is matched up against the oppositions best player. It’s not the reason for defeat in isolation, but it’s an important factor.

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #226 on: August 16, 2021, 08:39:09 PM »
I think gelling is less of an issue than fitness. Targett and Buendia clearly weren’t fit and were exposed as a result.

Because it comes out of the big bag of excuses

Same as if players haven’t played for a while they are rusty
If they have played two games in the same week they are tired
Two or three new players in a team need time to gell
the same players in a team grow stale
Play rubbish first game of the season, no preseason
Play a player that’s over 32 he’s too old
Play a young player he’s not experienced enough
Player has a shit game, he’s obviously not fit

Honestly you can go on forever
It’s endless the excuses you can find

If they’re all bullshit excuses, why didn’t we win then?


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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #227 on: August 16, 2021, 08:39:14 PM »
I think gelling is less of an issue than fitness. Targett and Buendia clearly weren’t fit and were exposed as a result.

Because it comes out of the big bag of excuses

Same as if players haven’t played for a while they are rusty
If they have played two games in the same week they are tired
Two or three new players in a team need time to gell
the same players in a team grow stale
Play rubbish first game of the season, no preseason
Play a player that’s over 32 he’s too old
Play a young player he’s not experienced enough
Player has a shit game, he’s obviously not fit

Honestly you can go on forever
It’s endless the excuses you can find
Because it’s more palatable to come up with excuses than face reality.
How about, we were not prepared, we picked the wrong team and we failed to react during the match.

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #228 on: August 16, 2021, 08:57:44 PM »
Still can’t get over how good we made Tom Cleverley look

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #229 on: August 16, 2021, 09:00:46 PM »
Still can’t get over how good we made Tom Cleverley look

When you have Nakamba as your dm in a 2, we'd make Drinkwater look good.

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #230 on: August 16, 2021, 09:02:55 PM »
I think gelling is less of an issue than fitness. Targett and Buendia clearly weren’t fit and were exposed as a result.

Because it comes out of the big bag of excuses

Same as if players haven’t played for a while they are rusty
If they have played two games in the same week they are tired
Two or three new players in a team need time to gell
the same players in a team grow stale
Play rubbish first game of the season, no preseason
Play a player that’s over 32 he’s too old
Play a young player he’s not experienced enough
Player has a shit game, he’s obviously not fit

Honestly you can go on forever
It’s endless the excuses you can find
Because it’s more palatable to come up with excuses than face reality.
How about, we were not prepared, we picked the wrong team and we failed to react during the match.


Or people are trying to find reasons why a team that we all think can challenge for Europe looked poor. Giving reasons for a poor performance isn't excuses and it's getting really fucking tiring reading the same people moan about 'all the excuses' all the time.

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #231 on: August 16, 2021, 09:03:18 PM »
I think gelling is less of an issue than fitness. Targett and Buendia clearly weren’t fit and were exposed as a result.

Because it comes out of the big bag of excuses

Same as if players haven’t played for a while they are rusty
If they have played two games in the same week they are tired
Two or three new players in a team need time to gell
the same players in a team grow stale
Play rubbish first game of the season, no preseason
Play a player that’s over 32 he’s too old
Play a young player he’s not experienced enough
Player has a shit game, he’s obviously not fit

Honestly you can go on forever
It’s endless the excuses you can find
Because it’s more palatable to come up with excuses than face reality.
How about, we were not prepared, we picked the wrong team and we failed to react during the match.

But aren’t they your excuses?

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #232 on: August 16, 2021, 09:15:19 PM »
I think gelling is less of an issue than fitness. Targett and Buendia clearly weren’t fit and were exposed as a result.

Because it comes out of the big bag of excuses

Same as if players haven’t played for a while they are rusty
If they have played two games in the same week they are tired
Two or three new players in a team need time to gell
the same players in a team grow stale
Play rubbish first game of the season, no preseason
Play a player that’s over 32 he’s too old
Play a young player he’s not experienced enough
Player has a shit game, he’s obviously not fit

Honestly you can go on forever
It’s endless the excuses you can find
Because it’s more palatable to come up with excuses than face reality.
How about, we were not prepared, we picked the wrong team and we failed to react during the match.

But aren’t they your excuses?
Reasons excuses, you take your picks.
Many like to live in a world where it’s no one’s fault.

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #233 on: August 16, 2021, 09:26:50 PM »
I think gelling is less of an issue than fitness. Targett and Buendia clearly weren’t fit and were exposed as a result.

Because it comes out of the big bag of excuses

Same as if players haven’t played for a while they are rusty
If they have played two games in the same week they are tired
Two or three new players in a team need time to gell
the same players in a team grow stale
Play rubbish first game of the season, no preseason
Play a player that’s over 32 he’s too old
Play a young player he’s not experienced enough
Player has a shit game, he’s obviously not fit

Honestly you can go on forever
It’s endless the excuses you can find
Because it’s more palatable to come up with excuses than face reality.
How about, we were not prepared, we picked the wrong team and we failed to react during the match.

But aren’t they your excuses?
Reasons excuses, you take your picks.
Many like to live in a world where it’s no one’s fault.

Well half of John’s list of ‘excuses’ are another way of saying we weren’t prepared, which is one of your ‘reasons’.

I just think that if there were no mitigating circumstances we’d have won, so if people want to post their opinions on what they were it’s a bit unfair to dismiss them as excuses.

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #234 on: August 16, 2021, 09:33:24 PM »
I think gelling is less of an issue than fitness. Targett and Buendia clearly weren’t fit and were exposed as a result.

Because it comes out of the big bag of excuses

Same as if players haven’t played for a while they are rusty
If they have played two games in the same week they are tired
Two or three new players in a team need time to gell
the same players in a team grow stale
Play rubbish first game of the season, no preseason
Play a player that’s over 32 he’s too old
Play a young player he’s not experienced enough
Player has a shit game, he’s obviously not fit

Honestly you can go on forever
It’s endless the excuses you can find
Because it’s more palatable to come up with excuses than face reality.
How about, we were not prepared, we picked the wrong team and we failed to react during the match.


Or people are trying to find reasons why a team that we all think can challenge for Europe looked poor. Giving reasons for a poor performance isn't excuses and it's getting really fucking tiring reading the same people moan about 'all the excuses' all the time.
maybe performances like Saturday knock that belief that we can challenge for Europe. My view is that we are not in a position to challenge for Europe and the excuses or reasons are a denial . The denial, that when Plan A fucked off up the M6 he took our chances of challenging for Europe with him.

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #235 on: August 16, 2021, 09:36:01 PM »
I think gelling is less of an issue than fitness. Targett and Buendia clearly weren’t fit and were exposed as a result.

Because it comes out of the big bag of excuses

Same as if players haven’t played for a while they are rusty
If they have played two games in the same week they are tired
Two or three new players in a team need time to gell
the same players in a team grow stale
Play rubbish first game of the season, no preseason
Play a player that’s over 32 he’s too old
Play a young player he’s not experienced enough
Player has a shit game, he’s obviously not fit

Honestly you can go on forever
It’s endless the excuses you can find
Because it’s more palatable to come up with excuses than face reality.
How about, we were not prepared, we picked the wrong team and we failed to react during the match.


Spot on.

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #236 on: August 16, 2021, 09:36:28 PM »
Nail on head

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #237 on: August 16, 2021, 09:39:32 PM »
I think gelling is less of an issue than fitness. Targett and Buendia clearly weren’t fit and were exposed as a result.

Because it comes out of the big bag of excuses

Same as if players haven’t played for a while they are rusty
If they have played two games in the same week they are tired
Two or three new players in a team need time to gell
the same players in a team grow stale
Play rubbish first game of the season, no preseason
Play a player that’s over 32 he’s too old
Play a young player he’s not experienced enough
Player has a shit game, he’s obviously not fit

Honestly you can go on forever
It’s endless the excuses you can find
Because it’s more palatable to come up with excuses than face reality.
How about, we were not prepared, we picked the wrong team and we failed to react during the match.


Or people are trying to find reasons why a team that we all think can challenge for Europe looked poor. Giving reasons for a poor performance isn't excuses and it's getting really fucking tiring reading the same people moan about 'all the excuses' all the time.
maybe performances like Saturday knock that belief that we can challenge for Europe. My view is that we are not in a position to challenge for Europe and the excuses or reasons are a denial . The denial, that when Plan A fucked off up the M6 he took our chances of challenging for Europe with him.

Fair enough. But careful though, because ‘we lost our best player’ could easily fit in John’s big bag of excuses

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #238 on: August 16, 2021, 09:57:16 PM »
I think gelling is less of an issue than fitness. Targett and Buendia clearly weren’t fit and were exposed as a result.

Because it comes out of the big bag of excuses

Same as if players haven’t played for a while they are rusty
If they have played two games in the same week they are tired
Two or three new players in a team need time to gell
the same players in a team grow stale
Play rubbish first game of the season, no preseason
Play a player that’s over 32 he’s too old
Play a young player he’s not experienced enough
Player has a shit game, he’s obviously not fit

Honestly you can go on forever
It’s endless the excuses you can find
Because it’s more palatable to come up with excuses than face reality.
How about, we were not prepared, we picked the wrong team and we failed to react during the match.


Or people are trying to find reasons why a team that we all think can challenge for Europe looked poor. Giving reasons for a poor performance isn't excuses and it's getting really fucking tiring reading the same people moan about 'all the excuses' all the time.
maybe performances like Saturday knock that belief that we can challenge for Europe. My view is that we are not in a position to challenge for Europe and the excuses or reasons are a denial . The denial, that when Plan A fucked off up the M6 he took our chances of challenging for Europe with him.

Fair enough. But careful though, because ‘we lost our best player’ could easily fit in John’s big bag of excuses
agree they could, but i think John has a different view on the cause and effect.

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Re: Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.
« Reply #239 on: August 17, 2021, 11:46:42 AM »
Only just caught up with this

Seems my big bag is a thing now



 


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