Watford 3-2 Aston Villa 15/16 tribute act post match thread.

[john e]

When we get the ball in the final third I think we could look really dangerous

However the slowness of the back for playing the ball to each other for ages before lumping it is a problem

The Centre Half’s are not ball players so we need some sort of proper ballplaying midfielders to step in and work the ball up the field so those forward players can be the dangerous little buggers we all hope they will be

[Matt C]

Agreed. What looks obvious from yesterday is we need to be much quicker and show far more quality in (modern day buzz word alert) transition. The ponderous build up doesn’t suit us at all.

[john e]

Agreed. What looks obvious from yesterday is we need to be much quicker and show far more quality in (modern day buzz word alert) transition. The ponderous build up doesn’t suit us at all.

Ponderous is exactly the right word
Even Dean Smith says we we’re  too slow and he’s the one picking their team and style

My teenage daughter always says to me when she’s watching Other teams play on telly why are they quicker than us dad
It’s so obvious I can’t see why we keep doing the same thing over and over again

[Footy-Vill]

Martinez 7
Cash 5.5
Konsa 5.5
Mings 5.5
Targett 5
McGinn 6.5
Nakamba 5
Buendia 5
Young 6
AEG 5.5
Ings 6

Subs
J. Ramsey 6
Bailey 6.5
Traroe 6.5

Disappointing first half understatement.
Though some good football in bits and second half there was an improvement and good performances by the subs
Young was more comfortable at left back though made some good early runs
The midfield was lacking something and the support to Ings was lacking.

Hoping for a vast improvement as players get match fit and can only improve.

[Risso]

I'd go:

Martinez 5
Cash 3
Konsa 5
Mings 6
Targett 3
McGinn 7
Nakamba 5
Buendia 4
Young 4 (first half) 6 (second half)
El Ghazi 4
Ings 5.5

Subs
Ramsey 6
Traore 7
Bailey 7

[maidstonevillain]

I'd go:

Martinez 5
Cash 3
Konsa 5
Mings 6
Targett 3
McGinn 7
Nakamba 5
Buendia 4
Young 4 (first half) 6 (second half)
El Ghazi 4
Ings 5.5

Subs
Ramsey 6
Traore 7
Bailey 7

I would agree with that, other than the 7 for McGinn. Scored a good goal, but otherwise was a liability I thought.

[sid1964]

Having read the observations of the game - I agree with John E comments, we are the kings of excuses, hopefully the owners and Purslow wont allow the excuses to continue, we should not be losing to Watford, if we are serious about breaking into the top 7 of the premier league.

Agree also about our pre-season the kick about in the park, that is not the way you prepare for a Premier League season or is it having a few drinks afterwards, this is Aston Villa not the Red Lion who are playing in the Birmingham Parks league

Notice comments about Buendia and Nakamba - before the game according to comments on this forum these two players were going to show us what we good players they were - Nakamba is not good enough and Buendia will need to make massive improvements in his game.

[AV82EC]

Shit performance given a sheen of respectability by the last 20 minutes.

I seem to recall a similarly shite performance at home to Wigan in about 2008 where we got mullered 2-0 at home on the first day. I was apoplectic with rage at the time but my advancing age has bought a bit more sage reflection than knee jerk reaction and on seeing the full time score I was minded to a mild shrug of the shoulders a muttered “meh” rather than a puce faced rant.

All that said, this clubs motto used to be “Prepared”. I think even the most generous commentator would struggle to justify that’s being met after Saturdays shitshow.

However, one game down and no reason for panic or that said mindless optimism.

We go again…..


 

[Ian.]

I’d not look too much into this performance. We’ve had a very lousy pre-season, two matches called off so this is probably our third game we’ve had.

I don’t think the first game of the season is an indicator to how it will all unfold for any team just very underwhelming after the excitement of the season starting and having a crowd there.

[Clampy]

Having read the observations of the game - I agree with John E comments, we are the kings of excuses, hopefully the owners and Purslow wont allow the excuses to continue, we should not be losing to Watford, if we are serious about breaking into the top 7 of the premier league.

Agree also about our pre-season the kick about in the park, that is not the way you prepare for a Premier League season or is it having a few drinks afterwards, this is Aston Villa not the Red Lion who are playing in the Birmingham Parks league

Notice comments about Buendia and Nakamba - before the game according to comments on this forum these two players were going to show us what we good players they were - Nakamba is not good enough and Buendia will need to make massive improvements in his game.

I doubt that 'kick about in the park' as you call it would have even been brought up had we won. I blame the barbecue afterwards personally.

[Mister E]

I’d not look too much into this performance. We’ve had a very lousy pre-season, two matches called off so this is probably our third game we’ve had.
I don’t think the first game of the season is an indicator to how it will all unfold for any team just very underwhelming after the excitement of the season starting and having a crowd there.

We've got to integrate 5 new players - and possibly more - and so there will definitely be a slow start to the season. We started badly; shit happens. This game may have been the coming-to-jesus moment that the squad needed: but they do need a really good week in training.

[eamonn]

Having read the observations of the game - I agree with John E comments, we are the kings of excuses, hopefully the owners and Purslow wont allow the excuses to continue, we should not be losing to Watford, if we are serious about breaking into the top 7 of the premier league.

Agree also about our pre-season the kick about in the park, that is not the way you prepare for a Premier League season or is it having a few drinks afterwards, this is Aston Villa not the Red Lion who are playing in the Birmingham Parks league

Notice comments about Buendia and Nakamba - before the game according to comments on this forum these two players were going to show us what we good players they were - Nakamba is not good enough and Buendia will need to make massive improvements in his game.

I doubt that 'kick about in the park' as you call it would have even been brought up had we won. I blame the barbecue afterwards personally.

But I think that's kind of his point. We didn't win partly because of the prep which involved a kick-about in the park and sausages and Sol beer with wedged-lime as a 'treat' afterwards.

[ChicagoLion]

Having read the observations of the game - I agree with John E comments, we are the kings of excuses, hopefully the owners and Purslow wont allow the excuses to continue, we should not be losing to Watford, if we are serious about breaking into the top 7 of the premier league.

Agree also about our pre-season the kick about in the park, that is not the way you prepare for a Premier League season or is it having a few drinks afterwards, this is Aston Villa not the Red Lion who are playing in the Birmingham Parks league

Notice comments about Buendia and Nakamba - before the game according to comments on this forum these two players were going to show us what we good players they were - Nakamba is not good enough and Buendia will need to make massive improvements in his game.

I doubt that 'kick about in the park' as you call it would have even been brought up had we won. I blame the barbecue afterwards personally.

But I think that's kind of his point. We didn't win partly because of the prep which involved a kick-about in the park and sausages and Sol beer with wedged-lime as a 'treat' afterwards.

With the resources we have we should have had a team ready  to compete with Watford without going 3 goals down.
It is a piss poor start to the season whichever way you look at it.

[baddowvillans]

Didn't watch the game live but was very disappointed with the outcome.  I don't think it is time to panic but we need to start on the front foot at the weekend and Dean needs to be reacting if plan A doesn't work  not leaving it till its too late. 

Unlucky on the second but am I alone in thinking that Martinez should have better with the first.  Lingard put two like that past him last year so maybe it's a weak spot

[Three Spires Villa]

Every player that started has played in the premier league. The defence and midfield were not new and have played together lots. Fed up with excuses, a shit performance so be called just that a shit performance