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Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
« Reply #315 on: September 17, 2021, 08:12:08 PM »

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Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
« Reply #316 on: September 17, 2021, 08:27:59 PM »
Big Chuk gets his hattrick, great ball to him by Frith (the trialist).

https://twitter.com/academyavfc/status/1438940474367172618

That’s filthy from the number 7.  Who is that? 

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Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
« Reply #317 on: September 17, 2021, 08:48:28 PM »
Big Chuk gets his hattrick, great ball to him by Frith (the trialist).

https://twitter.com/academyavfc/status/1438940474367172618

That’s filthy from the number 7.  Who is that? 

Trialist from Chelsea called Frith. He was struggling to have an impact for the first hour but that was quality and he had a couple of nearly moments just before.

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Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
« Reply #318 on: September 17, 2021, 09:22:34 PM »
Was there anyone in the Albion team worth taking? :)

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Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
« Reply #319 on: September 17, 2021, 09:47:21 PM »
Was there anyone in the Albion team worth taking? :)

I know you're taking the piss but no, not really, one of the attacking players was decent but nothing more. The central defenders were totally overwhelmed by chuk, ramsey and thorndike, it really wouldn't have flattered us if we'd put 7-8 on them.

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Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
« Reply #320 on: September 18, 2021, 12:11:07 PM »
Thorndike has the thing a lot of young wingers do which is he looks fantastic until it comes to end product, he should have a goal or 2 and at least 1 assist already.

Iroegbunam is going to be a player I reckon, he's not quite ready but he has everything you'd want from a young centre midfielder.

The only negative is that our defence has looked a bit of a mess but I think most of that is down to swinkels looking badly out of position at left back.

paul_e is about right I'd say.

Decent crowd last night of 300 or so.
Ramsay Jnr is class and ran the show, he had the crowd gasping over a few touches and dribbles, plus he has a great ability to drift in to space.
Caleb Chuck finished his goals well and had 3 or 4 more chances.
Tim is a quality '8'. Great range of passes and glides across the pitch. He's a lovely lad but in for terms has a bit of an edge.
The trialist was good in small flashes; his attempted 'rainbow flick' in the first half didn't go down well with the Villa bench. Boateng shouting orders from pitchside, Delaney at the back of the stand.

Prior to the game I was approached by Gary Shaw (!) to confirm the WBA formation. I then had to tell the lads who he was, they were highly impressed he had a European Cup medal and was EYPotY.

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Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
« Reply #321 on: September 18, 2021, 12:55:36 PM »
Good post Rotterdam thank you.  In your opinion, does the trialist have what it takes to earn a contract seeing the level of talent we are currently recruiting.

Makes me feel really old when you have to tell kids who Gary Shaw is!

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Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
« Reply #322 on: September 18, 2021, 01:27:39 PM »
I'd say 'no' dave. He apparently turned down a contract offer from Chelsea and seems to fancy he can get a better offer elsewhere (see Tim Iroegbunam). 

Talking with my dad after the game, we were discussing the chances of the lads making 'it'. Even U23 at a top academy like Villa they have a small chance of making the PL. Most will make a decent living for a few years in the lower leagues. Not many make the PL grade and if they haven't by 19/20 years old, they probably won't. Finn Thorndike was nowhere near the 1st team at WBA, but Villa have probably signed him as an extra body to cover for the likes of Barry, Young etc while they are on loan. The Villa academy staff would know him well.
The other thing is the balancing act of players like Carney and Cameron Archer being around the 1st team squad but not getting much, if any, game time. Too good for U23, not quite there for the 1st team. One of WBA U23s hadn't played play three and a half weeks, aside from training with the first team.

A final thing is the money...some of these lads are on 2k, 3k, 5k a week! Madness until you consider that a young first year pro on a three year contact could earn nearly 500k before they are too far past their 21st birthday. But if one or two make it, they could save the club tens of millions in fees plus earn them a huge transfer fee (see our old number 10). Even if they arent deemed good enough, a lower level team may throw an offer in. 

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Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
« Reply #323 on: September 18, 2021, 01:56:08 PM »
Not quite there for the first team yet. Plus they need to be given an opportunity to see if they are good enough at the highest level and barring injuries I cannot see Cam starting ahead of Watkins or Ings. Just hoping for a few appearances from the bench at the moment. He was so close to coming on against Brentford for the last 10 minutes.

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Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
« Reply #324 on: September 18, 2021, 02:52:35 PM »
Thanks for the insight Rotterdam it's much appreciated.  As you say, if those on 2k a week don't make it at PL level, by the time they move on they could almost be set-up financially for life if they're careful, guaranteed to be nailed-on if they make it in the championship.

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Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
« Reply #325 on: September 19, 2021, 01:19:51 PM »
I know a lad who was in the Blues academy and must have been on good money. Ultimately he was released but he invested in property and lets them out and has a business coaching golf so he's a good example. He was a bit full of himself when I started to get to know him, just after he had been released but he became more down to earth and became a good guy.

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Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
« Reply #326 on: September 22, 2021, 07:24:48 PM »
We won 6-2 last night.

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Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
« Reply #327 on: September 22, 2021, 09:16:09 PM »
We won 6-2 last night.

What game was that?

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Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
« Reply #328 on: September 22, 2021, 09:19:49 PM »
‘Twas the Birmingham Senior cup

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Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
« Reply #329 on: September 27, 2021, 06:40:37 PM »
U23 tea to face Stoke U23 tonight at 7.00




 


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