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Title: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: Legion on June 21, 2021, 11:15:43 AM
We go again.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on June 21, 2021, 01:01:15 PM
U23s (https://www.avfc.co.uk/teams/u23)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on June 21, 2021, 01:01:56 PM
U18s (https://www.avfc.co.uk/teams/u18)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on June 21, 2021, 02:29:40 PM
Reminds me, Sinisalo was being linked with moves to Celtic and Bayern yesterday. Didn't realise he was so highly rated.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on June 21, 2021, 02:33:34 PM
Reminds me, Sinisalo was being linked with moves to Celtic and Bayern yesterday. Didn't realise he was so highly rated.

This is why I hope we don't bother replacing Heaton, Sinisalo as the U23 and 3rd keeper for the season seems like the minimum to keep him interested. I like Filip Marschall as well and I'd hope him or Onodi could step up to be 3rd next season and we can let Steer go for first team football somewhere.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on June 21, 2021, 02:40:52 PM
I would get him to sign a new long-term contract and look to get him regular first team football somewhere, ideally a Championship club. Maybe take an experienced keeper on loan for a season if Marschall or Onodi aren't ready.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on June 21, 2021, 03:49:45 PM
Think he only has one year of his deal left, so either try to extend his deal, or sell him I guess.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 06, 2021, 01:50:41 PM
Professional contracts handed out to 7 of the U23's including a 5-year contract for Kaine Kesler Hayden. We clearly think highly of him in particular. Wonder whether that means he will be Matty Cash's back up this season rather than going out on loan.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/Seven-Villa-U23s-pen-new-deals/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 06, 2021, 02:59:35 PM
Pissing Albion off now too :)

https://www.westbromnews.co.uk/2021/07/06/aston-villa-set-to-sign-west-brom-talent-tim-iroegbunam/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 06, 2021, 05:05:47 PM
Another highly rated player signed up -
https://www.fleetwoodtownfc.com/news/2021/july/young-defender-josh-feeney-joins-premier-league-side-aston-villa/.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on July 06, 2021, 06:32:29 PM
Another highly rated player signed up -
https://www.fleetwoodtownfc.com/news/2021/july/young-defender-josh-feeney-joins-premier-league-side-aston-villa/.

He has nice hair.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on July 07, 2021, 12:16:13 PM
6 more new contracts - https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/Young-Lions-sign-new-contracts/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/Young-Lions-sign-new-contracts/)

Barry, Young, Lindley, Raikhy, Marschall and Afoka.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: dcdavecollett on July 08, 2021, 01:59:34 AM
...and Indiana Vassilev out on loan to Inter Miami until December.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Nunkin1965 on July 08, 2021, 08:58:51 AM
6 more new contracts - https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/Young-Lions-sign-new-contracts/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/Young-Lions-sign-new-contracts/)

Barry, Young, Lindley, Raikhy, Marschall and Afoka.

Brilliant.
Some very talented players being rewarded.
Raikhy looks some player btw.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 08, 2021, 09:05:11 AM
...and Indiana Vassilev out on loan to Inter Miami until December.

Not a fan of this. If we think he's going to contribute to the team, send him somewhere of a decent standard to learn. If not, sell/release him.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 08, 2021, 11:27:25 AM
Might be thinking if he does well there, we will at least get a fee for him.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 09, 2021, 11:14:32 AM
Tim Iroegbunam expected to sign a 4-year deal today. Iroegbunam is a defensive midfielder who won academy player of the year for Albion last year and was on the bench for their senior team for the last game. We're paying Albion six figures for his development costs as compensation.

Has anybody watched him? Anybody remember him from the youth cup semi final?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 09, 2021, 11:40:09 AM
Maybe we can form up some sort of partnership whereby we are West Brom's Parent club? Like we did with Walsall.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Rotterdam on July 09, 2021, 12:40:14 PM
Tim Iroegbunam expected to sign a 4-year deal today. Iroegbunam is a defensive midfielder who won academy player of the year for Albion last year and was on the bench for their senior team for the last game. We're paying Albion six figures for his development costs as compensation.

Has anybody watched him? Anybody remember him from the youth cup semi final?

Tim is an excellent player. A more defensive CM player but with a decent eye for goal. Quick enough and a shade over 6ft. Good range of passing.
Was training with the first team at WBA toward the end of last season. A good lad and popular with his peers.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 09, 2021, 12:43:08 PM
Maybe we can form up some sort of partnership whereby we are West Brom's Parent club?

Going on recent movements, we already have.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on July 09, 2021, 12:59:33 PM
Tim Iroegbunam expected to sign a 4-year deal today. Iroegbunam is a defensive midfielder who won academy player of the year for Albion last year and was on the bench for their senior team for the last game. We're paying Albion six figures for his development costs as compensation.

Has anybody watched him? Anybody remember him from the youth cup semi final?

Tim is an excellent player. A more defensive CM player but with a decent eye for goal. Quick enough and a shade over 6ft. Good range of passing.
Was training with the first team at WBA toward the end of last season. A good lad and popular with his peers.

Am I right in thinking you work at the Baggies academy?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Rotterdam on July 09, 2021, 03:28:00 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 09, 2021, 03:28:47 PM
Agent Rotterdam :)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Rotterdam on July 09, 2021, 03:33:09 PM
Ssshhhh.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: dave shelley on July 09, 2021, 03:48:00 PM
Yes.

It must be somewhat difficult for you seeing youngsters that you've invested time and effort into being courted by other clubs of higher standing, divorcing yourself from the club you support notwithstanding.  I know it's football with all its machinations but I'd imagine it must be a little bit gutting nonetheless.  On the other hand a certain amount of pride in his development is due.  I hope it works out for him.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Rotterdam on July 09, 2021, 03:51:25 PM
I can't say too much for obvious reasons, but what I've learnt is 'money talks' and agents are rife...its been mentioned that kids are treated like commodities.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: dave shelley on July 09, 2021, 03:55:12 PM
I can't say too much for obvious reasons, but what I've learnt is 'money talks' and agents are rife...its been mentioned that kids are treated like commodities.

I understand that and despite what club it is, it's a shame, more so if the kid doesn't make it.  Agents are leeches.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on July 09, 2021, 04:10:56 PM
I can't say too much for obvious reasons, but what I've learnt is 'money talks' and agents are rife...its been mentioned that kids are treated like commodities.

Totally correct. The money involved even at a young age is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on July 09, 2021, 04:38:32 PM
Yes.

Thought so, thanks for the input, sounds like a ver good prospect.

On the money, etc side I don't find that such a problem when it's a playing moving across Birmingham (for example) I have more concerns when players are moved from other countries like this.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 09, 2021, 04:56:32 PM
They can't be, if they're under-18, except within the EU/EEA.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on July 09, 2021, 05:05:58 PM
They can't be, if they're under-18, except within the EU/EEA.

I was thinking of us signing players like Bogarde and Swinkels last summer, I like the look of thme and I'm very happy that they're here but I'm not entirely comfortable with it, 18 is where I think the line should be drawn on ALL international moves. I find the amount of South Americans that have moved to Spain and Portugal over the years particularly bad and I'm glad steps have been taken against that.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 09, 2021, 05:07:55 PM
It's when you read things like a kid joining Man United because United have bought a new house for his parents where it highlights a distasteful side to it. There is a certain amount of commodification about it.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 09, 2021, 05:40:33 PM
That's another one in then - https://www.afcb.co.uk/news/club-news/burchall-moves-to-aston-villa/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 09, 2021, 05:42:38 PM
They can't be, if they're under-18, except within the EU/EEA.

I was thinking of us signing players like Bogarde and Swinkels last summer, I like the look of thme and I'm very happy that they're here but I'm not entirely comfortable with it, 18 is where I think the line should be drawn on ALL international moves. I find the amount of South Americans that have moved to Spain and Portugal over the years particularly bad and I'm glad steps have been taken against that.

18 is where the line is drawn on all international transfers. EU freedom of movement trumps FIFA regulations, though. We were able to sign them last year because, although we had technically left the EU, we were still in the transitional period and subject to those laws.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: dorsetvillian on July 09, 2021, 05:56:45 PM
Burchall is very talented. Bournemouth are only a Cat 3 academy, but lots of clubs were after him.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 09, 2021, 06:03:17 PM
Our academy is really beginning to develop into something that's going to have a very strong reputation - https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/Ten-new-scholars-sign-for-Villa/.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: jwarry on July 09, 2021, 06:04:33 PM
God knows what we are doing but the kids seem to want to come here now which is fantastic. Having just read Sir Brian’s book I don’t think we’ve ever had a youth set up like this. The Sky six must be wondering what the hell is going on.  Bring it on!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 09, 2021, 06:10:11 PM
Burchall is very talented. Bournemouth are only a Cat 3 academy, but lots of clubs were after him.

Great news (as long as he's not related to Julie).
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: jwarry on July 09, 2021, 06:20:05 PM
Burchall is very talented. Bournemouth are only a Cat 3 academy, but lots of clubs were after him.

Great news (as long as he's not related to Julie).

What was wrong with Julie?!?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 09, 2021, 07:05:36 PM
I wonder whether the owners have ambitions for our youth academy to be talked of alongside those of Barcelona and Ajax.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on July 09, 2021, 07:25:59 PM
They can't be, if they're under-18, except within the EU/EEA.

I was thinking of us signing players like Bogarde and Swinkels last summer, I like the look of thme and I'm very happy that they're here but I'm not entirely comfortable with it, 18 is where I think the line should be drawn on ALL international moves. I find the amount of South Americans that have moved to Spain and Portugal over the years particularly bad and I'm glad steps have been taken against that.

18 is where the line is drawn on all international transfers. EU freedom of movement trumps FIFA regulations, though. We were able to sign them last year because, although we had technically left the EU, we were still in the transitional period and subject to those laws.

I know (bold bit).
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Lastfootstamper on July 09, 2021, 08:07:08 PM
If people don't fancy the s*n link, here's another from February https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/19103834.arsenal-reportedly-lead-transfer-chase-ajani-burchall/
Although it must be said that it looks like we'd ousted them in April as favourites to land the kid.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Risso on July 09, 2021, 08:35:32 PM
If there are 2 million more Europeans in the UK than was first thought and all of whom appear to be applying for settled status, who is going home in such numbers to account for the large number of vacancies in certain industries?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Rotterdam on July 10, 2021, 02:44:50 PM
I wonder whether the owners have ambitions for our youth academy to be talked of alongside those of Barcelona and Ajax.

Villa are really going for it at all levels within the academy. The set up at Bodymoor is very impressive, not just the players facilities but the attention to detail. Parents have lounges with workstations and Wifi allowing them to work whilst waiting for the kids to finish training, viewing galleries over looking the 4G and the show pitch. Complementary food is on offer as the parent maybe be waiting from 5pm until gone 8pm three evenings a week. They have one such building which has just opened, and Purslow apparently visited it, deemed it too small so another is to be built next door. Locally, no club is anywhere near Villa's facilities.

Little touches like this make a huge difference and help attract kids to sign. Facilities though do need filling, the academy staffing apparently has tripled in the last two years at BH, giving players more attention. Other clubs like Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea have amazing training facilities (arguably better than BH) , but unless you have got the staff and the players, it's pointless.

Player-wise the approach seems straight forward. Sign the best players we can locally and source the best players around the country and beyond. The more we get in, the more chance we have of unearthing another gem or two. If they don't make it at Villa, they still may have a worth (£) as I said 'commodities'. The lads are sold a project by Mark Harrison and Steve Hopcroft and the physical set up at Bodymoor helps sell the club as well as top coaching. I believe players like Bogarde and Swinkels were hooked in by the club and the attention to detail.

What is clear, is that the owners are backing the academy; new facility near VP, staff, better facilities at Bodymoor etc. Last year Villa U18 had what amounts to an 'A' team with Barry, Young, Swinkels, Kessler et al, and a 'B' team for run of the mill U18 league games. The former bolster the U23s when needed and therefore a pathway and progression is clear. Another point is young lads see Chuck, Louis, Kessler, Ramsay in and around the first team, so reinforcing the point that a pathway is there.

What all of this needs is...money, lots of money. Some clubs have it, most don't. We do and we are spending it correctly.

Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: eamonn on July 10, 2021, 03:21:46 PM
God knows what we are doing but the kids seem to want to come here now which is fantastic. Having just read Sir Brian’s book I don’t think we’ve ever had a youth set up like this. The Sky six must be wondering what the hell is going on.  Bring it on!

In an indirect way, are we doing it by buying fancy new houses for them and their parents?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 10, 2021, 04:26:13 PM
I wonder whether the owners have ambitions for our youth academy to be talked of alongside those of Barcelona and Ajax.

Villa are really going for it at all levels within the academy. The set up at Bodymoor is very impressive, not just the players facilities but the attention to detail. Parents have lounges with workstations and Wifi allowing them to work whilst waiting for the kids to finish training, viewing galleries over looking the 4G and the show pitch. Complementary food is on offer as the parent maybe be waiting from 5pm until gone 8pm three evenings a week. They have one such building which has just opened, and Purslow apparently visited it, deemed it too small so another is to be built next door. Locally, no club is anywhere near Villa's facilities.

Little touches like this make a huge difference and help attract kids to sign. Facilities though do need filling, the academy staffing apparently has tripled in the last two years at BH, giving players more attention. Other clubs like Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea have amazing training facilities (arguably better than BH) , but unless you have got the staff and the players, it's pointless.

Player-wise the approach seems straight forward. Sign the best players we can locally and source the best players around the country and beyond. The more we get in, the more chance we have of unearthing another gem or two. If they don't make it at Villa, they still may have a worth (£) as I said 'commodities'. The lads are sold a project by Mark Harrison and Steve Hopcroft and the physical set up at Bodymoor helps sell the club as well as top coaching. I believe players like Bogarde and Swinkels were hooked in by the club and the attention to detail.

What is clear, is that the owners are backing the academy; new facility near VP, staff, better facilities at Bodymoor etc. Last year Villa U18 had what amounts to an 'A' team with Barry, Young, Swinkels, Kessler et al, and a 'B' team for run of the mill U18 league games. The former bolster the U23s when needed and therefore a pathway and progression is clear. Another point is young lads see Chuck, Louis, Kessler, Ramsay in and around the first team, so reinforcing the point that a pathway is there.

What all of this needs is...money, lots of money. Some clubs have it, most don't. We do and we are spending it correctly.

Thanks for this, all sounds very promising.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 10, 2021, 04:46:03 PM
Thanks Rotterdam. I think I'm right in saying too that investment into the youth and training facilities doesn't count against FFP. There's a very clear strategy and I think it's very clever. It's interesting what you said about other clubs having fantastic facilities, some better than ours (Mings was supposedly blown away when he saw Spurs') but if we're investing in not only the best staff but also ensuring the numbers are there so that the kids have a lot more 1:1 time, that can only help their development and result in more success. Be that breaking through to the first team or having market value for us and a career as a well paid professional footballer for them.

To think that we're only 3 years into their project too. It's only going to grow and scale.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: fredm on July 11, 2021, 11:34:35 AM
Brilliant reading, Rotterdam.  On a morning when we all hope the national team can do the business let's hope that on future occasions there are many more names with "Aston Villa" beside them on the team sheet.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Bad English on July 12, 2021, 03:10:24 PM
'Complimentary' food. ;-)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on July 12, 2021, 03:21:00 PM
'Complimentary' food. ;-)

Thank you.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 14, 2021, 11:18:08 AM
Trying to sign Bryan Small's nephew - https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-aston-villa-make-move-for-everton-wonderkid-thierry-small/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Lastfootstamper on July 17, 2021, 03:06:25 PM
There's a video up of this week's training. A good few kids training with the first team. I likes that.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: dave shelley on July 17, 2021, 03:44:54 PM
There's a video up of this week's training. A good few kids training with the first team. I likes that.

I think I read yesterday that there are ten of them.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 17, 2021, 05:25:29 PM
Another Albion kid we're signing - https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-aston-villa-set-to-sign-azaz-from-west-brom-and-loan-him-to-newport-county/.

Might as well just make Albion our B team.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on July 17, 2021, 08:56:29 PM
Onodi out on loan to bromsgrove sporting, I'd have hope he'd have got offers a bit higher than that but it'll still be a good experience for him.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on July 17, 2021, 10:08:54 PM
Trying to sign Bryan Small's nephew - https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-aston-villa-make-move-for-everton-wonderkid-thierry-small/

Hope so. He is pretty decent. Lovely lad aswell.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on July 17, 2021, 10:09:21 PM
There's a video up of this week's training. A good few kids training with the first team. I likes that.

Link please.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on July 17, 2021, 10:20:52 PM
Ignore. I think it's the one I put on our FB Page yesterday.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Nunkin1965 on July 18, 2021, 08:04:44 AM
What's going on under the first team is incredibly telling as to what these owners want to achieve.
We already have a squad ot extremely talented youngsters. The best for many a year yet we are still developing and still recruiting the best. Still building for a long and sustainable future of strength and success.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 18, 2021, 02:32:42 PM
I think it's a really smart strategy. We're going to struggle to recruit the very best established players but we can recruit some of the best young talents and then when you've already really fostered an environment where those young players have the best opportunity to thrive and develop into top players, over time we'll have a first team squad full of some of the best players around.

Every day these kids come into train, they'll be training with the best of their peer group as well as getting all the top coaching and more one to one time than most in their age group.

The likes of Chelsea and Man City have really talented kids but often with no clear pathway to their senior team. I've tried to think who else has used this approach in this country and I can only think of the 'You don't win anything with kids' Man United bunch. It's going to be a really attractive proposition for the best young kids to know that they're a priority in our strategy, that they'll be looked after better than many senior teams and that if you develop, there's a very good chance that you'll make it through to our first team and if not, still likely to have a professional career elsewhere.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: eamonn on July 18, 2021, 03:42:54 PM
Onodi out on loan to bromsgrove sporting, I'd have hope he'd have got offers a bit higher than that but it'll still be a good experience for him.

He's still so young. Any competitive mens football is a good move for him.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on July 18, 2021, 04:21:30 PM
Onodi out on loan to bromsgrove sporting, I'd have hope he'd have got offers a bit higher than that but it'll still be a good experience for him.

He's still so young. Any competitive mens football is a good move for him.

Yeah I agree, I'm just surprised that no one a bit higher has come in. Maybe it was important to keep him in the midlands though.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on July 18, 2021, 04:37:22 PM
Same for Cam when he went to Solihull Moors but it went really well for him.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 18, 2021, 06:28:17 PM
Any word what he's doing this season Leeg?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on July 18, 2021, 06:34:26 PM
Back at the Villa at the moment.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 18, 2021, 06:35:57 PM
It will be interesting to see if we keep him involved in the U23's, have him training with the first team and playing him in the league cup games or whether we send him out for more experience.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 21, 2021, 03:05:23 PM
Decent article summarising the likely make-up of the team for this year's FA Youth Cup.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-fa-cup-chukwuemeka-21102733
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 23, 2021, 09:02:53 PM
Oops, we've done it again.

Another Albion talent we've taken. This time at U15 level.

https://www.westbromnews.co.uk/2021/07/23/aston-villa-sign-west-brom-talent-triston-rowe/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Villan For Life on July 23, 2021, 09:23:41 PM
We seem to be cherry picking the best local talent which is fantastic to see.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on July 23, 2021, 11:01:51 PM
Doesn't say much for the development aspect of players from earlier age groups.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Villan For Life on July 23, 2021, 11:09:40 PM
Doesn't say much for the development aspect of players from earlier age groups.

I think that we slipped behind all local clubs a few years ago and now we are playing catch up before we dominate the age group market.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: eamonn on July 24, 2021, 12:02:45 AM
Yeah...it's a bit suss that we couldn't spot these kids in the first place. Feels a bit wrong, waving our wonga at our little neighbours.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Fred Crump on July 24, 2021, 12:34:37 AM
Doesn't say much for the development aspect of players from earlier age groups.

I think that we slipped behind all local clubs a few years ago and now we are playing catch up before we dominate the age group market.

That’s why we recruited Albion’s academy manager, Mark Harrison. He is one of the best in the business. All part of the strategic plan ....
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on July 24, 2021, 12:38:51 AM
No. Far from it.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Fred Crump on July 24, 2021, 12:44:01 AM
Really, why ?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on July 26, 2021, 03:53:57 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/U23-2021-22-PL2-fixtures-announced/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 26, 2021, 05:37:04 PM
They have to get themselves into the top league.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: eamonn on July 26, 2021, 05:42:08 PM
Maybe not. Using the U23s as a higher level of difficulty for a lot of our U18s arguably contributed massively to us winning the Youth Cup.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 26, 2021, 06:15:13 PM
And they'll get better still if the U23's are at the next level up. With some of the talent we've been recruiting, it has to be a target.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: eamonn on July 26, 2021, 06:39:39 PM
Maybe so, it's a balancing act. Could be that the second division is a sweet spot of being challenging enough for a talented 18 year-old and not too difficult which it might be a level higher (as you've got fringe first-team squad players from top clubs needing game-time and turning-out in U23s games).

I guess what I was trying to say was that I'd take a second division U23s side if the U18s win the Youth Cup. But I take your point. We're a big club, at all levels competing at the top tier should be a given. Just think the U23s is the one in-between area that maybe is not as important. The good players too old for the U18s are probably better served going on-loan to a lower league club than hanging around Bodymoor for a few more years.   
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on July 26, 2021, 08:30:55 PM
I think one of the things we've got wrong in the past is caring about how we do in the U23/U18/reserve leagues when results aren't really what matters at that level.


I'm with Eamonn, I think the U23 league should be used to keep players on the fringe of the first team squad match fit and to give gametime to players recovering from injuries. For example I'm happy with Sinisalo as 3rd choice next year but he also needs regular games so the U23s works for him.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Rotterdam on July 26, 2021, 09:08:39 PM
I think one of the things we've got wrong in the past is caring about how we do in the U23/U18/reserve leagues when results aren't really what matters at that level.


I'm with Eamonn, I think the U23 league should be used to keep players on the fringe of the first team squad match fit and to give gametime to players recovering from injuries. For example I'm happy with Sinisalo as 3rd choice next year but he also needs regular games so the U23s works for him.
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Spot on Paul-e
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 26, 2021, 09:16:33 PM
My point really is about the kids being able to regularly compete against a higher standard of competition (first division versus second division).

Being obsessed with how well they were doing would be expecting them to be in contention to win the top league and holding onto players too long to do so, when they would be better off being loaned out to continue their development. That's the mistake we've made before.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on July 26, 2021, 09:52:13 PM
My point really is about the kids being able to regularly compete against a higher standard of competition (first division versus second division).

Being obsessed with how well they were doing would be expecting them to be in contention to win the top league and holding onto players too long to do so, when they would be better off being loaned out to continue their development. That's the mistake we've made before.

I don't know how much difference in quality there really is though. The games we struggled in last season weren't against teams with great academies full of good players. It was against teams full of 21-23 year olds who were further along in their development. By not giving a shit about the results and instead exposing 17-18 year olds to those teams I think we're hoping to create a step between Academy/U18/Youth Cup and the loans market to make the steps to the first team shallower.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Footy-Vill on July 27, 2021, 01:16:50 PM
We have an under-23 side vs non-league Stafford Rangers on Saturday. Team to be made up of some under-18s and new signings
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Border villan on July 27, 2021, 04:57:00 PM
U23’s 8-1 Hendsford Town earlier this afternoon. Pravda gives the team but not the scorers. Can anyone help?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on July 27, 2021, 05:17:53 PM
Cam got 2.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on July 27, 2021, 06:42:18 PM
Wright
Young
Sewell
Barry
Goodridge

One other.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on July 27, 2021, 06:51:23 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/GALLERY-U23s-take-on-Hednesford-Town-/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on July 27, 2021, 06:52:28 PM
U23’s 8-1 Hendsford Town earlier this afternoon. Pravda gives the team but not the scorers. Can anyone help?

It was yesterday.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: dcdavecollett on July 29, 2021, 01:43:46 AM
Does anyone know what other warm-up fixtures the U-23s have? There's nothing on the OS about this?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 29, 2021, 02:25:33 AM
Does anyone know what other warm-up fixtures the U-23s have? There's nothing on the OS about this?

They're at Stafford on Saturday.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: dcdavecollett on July 30, 2021, 02:06:49 AM
Ta, Dave.

Any idea where and when the U-23s are playing Chesterfield in pre-season?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 30, 2021, 11:31:56 AM
It seems to have gone unmentioned but we've completed the signing of Albion's Academy player of the season, Tim Iroegbunam, on a 4-year deal. Apparently he and Louie Barry played together at Sutton United when they were very young.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Rotterdam on July 30, 2021, 12:01:36 PM
Tim is a good number 8, box to box. Intelligent and hard working. Money talked again as he would have most have been on the fringes of the first team at WBA and would have certainly been training with 1st team.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: robleflaneur on July 30, 2021, 12:29:22 PM
To catch or overtake the 2 Manchester clubs,Liverpool and Chelsea we need this devolopment of young talent.Chelsea have had at their disposal an incredible array of young players,fortunately quite a few have left as their path to first team football has been blocked.
Villa need to create an open pathway and not create a big squad of senior players.It might penalise the first team in the short term but in 4-5 years we could be reaping huge rewards.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 30, 2021, 12:33:17 PM
Thanks Rotterdam. Saying how cheap it is to sign the best young developmental talents, it's perhaps surprising that no-one else has really considered a sustained approach of gearing a club towards ensuring that long-term recruitment is done this way, with big money moves only going where gaps need filling. 
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Rotterdam on July 30, 2021, 01:34:33 PM
A top academy prospect may cost between £250K and £500K (lets say) dependent upon years there and age.
My thoughts are the same as you OCD, 'throw enough darts and you'll score a bullseye or two'.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on July 30, 2021, 01:41:32 PM
With an environment where they've got some of the best coaching, great facilities, lots of one-on-one time, great first team prospects, individual plans and a group of similarly talented players, we must be giving ourselves a great chance. Before now, we may have had one or two talented kids who were able to rest on their laurels because there was no competition within the group. This approach means that it will be very competitive and if they don't continue to develop, they may struggle for games.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: dcdavecollett on August 02, 2021, 02:32:43 AM
Does anyone know what the line-ups were for the matches on Saturday?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: eamonn on August 02, 2021, 05:33:16 PM
I think Trialist 1 and Trialist 2 were in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: SaddVillan on August 02, 2021, 06:39:16 PM
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1422248580098691076?s=08

Kayne Kesler off to Swindon until January at least.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on August 02, 2021, 06:47:12 PM
Good move for him, hope he goes well.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: eamonn on August 02, 2021, 09:23:35 PM
Yes, this is what we want. The bright lights from the Youth Cup team cutting their teeth at senior, competitive level.

Mind you...aren't Swindon a bit of a basket-case at the moment?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 02, 2021, 09:48:44 PM
Does anyone know what the line-ups were for the matches on Saturday?

The lad from Bournemouth and Cameron Archer played at Stafford, as did either Stefan or Luke Moore (opinion is divided)'s son. Let that sink in for a moment.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on August 02, 2021, 10:34:07 PM
Cam played at Stafford straight after being an unused sub for the U23s vs Crewe.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: eamonn on August 02, 2021, 10:40:45 PM
Stefan's son is on our books according to that article in The Athletic I posted a month or two back. Let that sink-in, indeed...where does it all go...
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on August 02, 2021, 10:45:06 PM
Hourihane and Wes were at Crewe.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Mister E on August 03, 2021, 08:52:15 AM
Yes, this is what we want. The bright lights from the Youth Cup team cutting their teeth at senior, competitive level.
Mind you...aren't Swindon a bit of a basket-case at the moment?
Swindon is indeed. I was surprised to see that we'd sent him to a place that has lost its manager and cannot afford currently to pay the wages from May onwards.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 03, 2021, 10:13:51 AM
Well, decent chance he'll get some games then. Good news for us.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on August 03, 2021, 01:02:16 PM
Yes, this is what we want. The bright lights from the Youth Cup team cutting their teeth at senior, competitive level.
Mind you...aren't Swindon a bit of a basket-case at the moment?
Swindon is indeed. I was surprised to see that we'd sent him to a place that has lost its manager and cannot afford currently to pay the wages from May onwards.

Villa would probably be paying his wages.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Mister E on August 03, 2021, 03:48:37 PM
Yes, this is what we want. The bright lights from the Youth Cup team cutting their teeth at senior, competitive level.
Mind you...aren't Swindon a bit of a basket-case at the moment?
Swindon is indeed. I was surprised to see that we'd sent him to a place that has lost its manager and cannot afford currently to pay the wages from May onwards.
Villa would probably be paying his wages.
I wasn't thinking so much about him getting paid; more about the loss of their good players and the potentially-poor morale around a club in financial and ownership crisis. I just wonder what sort of experience he'll get and what quality of coaching he'll benefit from.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: robbo1874 on August 04, 2021, 11:59:50 AM
I saw on the Graun’s transfer window interactive, we’ve signed Josh Pheeney from Fleetwood Town. Not sure when that happened and probably no one really cares today, but just wondering if anyone knows anything about him or has seen him play?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on August 04, 2021, 12:01:22 PM
I saw on the Graun’s transfer window interactive, we’ve signed Josh Pheeney from Fleetwood Town. Not sure when that happened and probably no one really cares today, but just wondering if anyone knows anything about him or has seen him play?

This one is from weeks ago, he looks a great prospect, composed ball playing centre half/defensive midfielder.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on August 04, 2021, 12:08:32 PM
England U16 captain. Tall lad too.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: robbo1874 on August 04, 2021, 08:09:16 PM
Thanks. We seem to be doing a fair bit of investment for the future with the young players being brought in. Good signs for the next 5 years or so.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: eamonn on August 05, 2021, 03:59:42 PM
Pheeney, not Feeney?  With Austin McPhee also now in-tow, we're taking the p(h)ee.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: chrisw1 on August 06, 2021, 10:30:37 AM
Louie Barry off to Ipswich.  Sounds like an excellent move for all parties.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Londonvilla on August 08, 2021, 02:04:28 AM
Kaine Kesler-Hayden

Re: Scunthorpe v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread

Wollacott 7
- Distribution was a bit poor at times and was a bit rash and shouldn't have given away the penalty. But made a few commanding claims and two very smart saves. Forgotten what its like to have a decent keeper.

Kaine Kesler-Hayden 9
- No wonder he has a 5 year contract. Defended soundly and was an immense attacking threat. Incredibly quick and gifted. Would have created more in first half if we could have found him with the ball!


Baudry 6.5
- Did what he needed to do. Still takes too many risks for my liking.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Londonvilla on August 08, 2021, 02:09:05 AM
Swindon Town player ratings after win over Scunthorpe United

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/19498922.swindon-town-player-ratings-win-scunthorpe-united/

ADVER Sport assess the performances of the Swindon Town players following the club's 3-1 victory over Scunthorpe United.

Jojo Wollacott: 7

Pulled off a handful of excellent saves and claimed aerial balls really well throughout. At fault for the penalty, however.

Kaine Kesler-Hayden: 9

The Villa man was excellent on his debut, showing pace, awareness, and most importantly winning the penalty that got Town back into the game. Hopefully, his injury is not too serious, and he can continue like that all season. Subbed.

Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 10, 2021, 07:39:29 PM
Three more youngsters sign pro deals. https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/Academy-trio-sign-pro-deals/

If Aaron is half as good as another St. Pat's alumnus we had...
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 10, 2021, 08:23:26 PM
Villa loanee Louis Barry's Ipwich playing against Villa loanee Finn Azaz's Newport in League Cup. Both players started. Currently one-nil to Newport after a goal for Timmy Abraham (brother of Tammy) assisted by Azaz.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: MorrisNielson on August 12, 2021, 11:41:13 PM
The league season starts tomorrow for the reserve/u23s, we play Notts Forest.
For those who are interested, here's our various reserve league record to date:
(https://i.ibb.co/1mHmJKy/res-record-2021.png) (https://ibb.co/1mHmJKy)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on August 12, 2021, 11:42:43 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 13, 2021, 12:19:39 AM
Some effort, that 👏
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 13, 2021, 08:26:33 AM
Excellent work Morris
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on August 13, 2021, 07:04:31 PM
The league season starts tomorrow for the reserve/u23s, we play Notts Forest.
For those who are interested, here's our various reserve league record to date:
(https://i.ibb.co/1mHmJKy/res-record-2021.png) (https://ibb.co/1mHmJKy)

Amazing bit of research. There's a book in that......
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: pooligan on August 13, 2021, 07:10:48 PM
Anyone know why the U23 game against Forest tonight  is not on Villa Tv  ,in fact i have not seen it even mentioned at all
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on August 13, 2021, 07:21:39 PM
Unable to broadcast with Arse game at the same time!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: pooligan on August 13, 2021, 07:26:34 PM
Thanks for that, at least the Forest website mentioned the match and that it was not being streamed ,nothing from Villa as far as i aware
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 13, 2021, 07:29:58 PM
Losing two-nil.

https://twitter.com/academyavfc/status/1426249234454568960?s=19
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on August 13, 2021, 07:30:41 PM
I got a message saying it will be available in full from something like midnight!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 13, 2021, 07:44:05 PM
1-2, Aaron Ramsey pulls one back .
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 13, 2021, 08:08:54 PM
Two each. Brad Young.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 13, 2021, 08:12:53 PM
Now three-two to the Villa! Finally Thorndike. He must be the trialist.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 13, 2021, 08:14:38 PM
4-2 and it's Archer!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: pooligan on August 13, 2021, 08:14:55 PM
3- 2 to villa now Finley thorndike  make that 4 -2 now
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 13, 2021, 08:19:48 PM
4 in 12 minutes (if you discount halftime)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 13, 2021, 08:50:41 PM
FOIV TWO. Brad Young again.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: pooligan on August 13, 2021, 08:51:52 PM
Well done Brad the goal machine
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 13, 2021, 09:07:15 PM
game of 2 halves and all that
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on August 13, 2021, 09:07:25 PM
This is who the triallist is. No prizes for guessing where we got him from. https://www.westbromnews.co.uk/2021/07/29/finley-thorndike-at-aston-villa-after-leaving-west-brom/.

I take it did finish 5-2? The Twitter feed mentioned the fifth and then said the full-time score was 4-2.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on August 13, 2021, 09:12:51 PM
5-2 FT.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on August 13, 2021, 09:16:00 PM
Thanks Leeg.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on August 13, 2021, 09:24:33 PM
Cam with a goal and at least one assist.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on August 13, 2021, 09:55:43 PM
Highlights on at 10pm.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Eckybloke on August 13, 2021, 10:04:03 PM
This is who the triallist is. No prizes for guessing where we got him from. https://www.westbromnews.co.uk/2021/07/29/finley-thorndike-at-aston-villa-after-leaving-west-brom/.

Mat Kendrick made a joke the other day about arrivals at West Brom Academy getting a tour of Villa Park...
🤣
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: not3bad on August 13, 2021, 10:45:02 PM
What a start!!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 13, 2021, 10:55:19 PM
Full game on Villa TV. Warning you will need to accept Jack Woodward’s verbal diarrhea
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 13, 2021, 11:11:03 PM
Young Cam Archer was just superb
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 13, 2021, 11:39:25 PM
This is who the triallist is. No prizes for guessing where we got him from. https://www.westbromnews.co.uk/2021/07/29/finley-thorndike-at-aston-villa-after-leaving-west-brom/.

Mat Kendrick made a joke the other day about arrivals at West Brom Academy getting a tour of Villa Park...
🤣


i am losing count is that 4 we have had off them
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on August 14, 2021, 12:05:41 AM
A year on loan has probably done Cam the world of good and will probably smash it at U23 level now.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Clampy on August 14, 2021, 09:00:53 AM
Finley Thorndike sounds like a character from Last of the Summer Wine.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: jwarry on August 14, 2021, 09:21:22 AM
Ramsey junior was class.  He has a bit of arrogance about him and funnily enough reminds me of the other Aaron Ramsey
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on August 14, 2021, 11:39:54 AM
A year on loan has probably done Cam the world of good and will probably smash it at U23 level now.

Agreed. He either needs a further spell on loan at a higher level or opportunities with the first team.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 14, 2021, 12:18:20 PM
Any idea of the lineup for the U18s against Arsenal?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 14, 2021, 12:24:20 PM
Any idea of the lineup for the U18s against Arsenal?

https://twitter.com/academyavfc/status/1426500780547313670.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 14, 2021, 12:29:13 PM
Currently one down. Are the two O'Reillys related?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 14, 2021, 12:34:58 PM
Are the two O'Reillys related?

Seems unlikely as came to Villa separately and and were born 6.5 months apart.

Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 14, 2021, 12:36:22 PM
2-0 to the Arsenal...
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 14, 2021, 12:38:21 PM
Now 2-1, another fightback on the cards? Taylor Jay-Hart scored for Villa.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 14, 2021, 12:46:01 PM
Fightback maybe not on after all. 3-1.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2021, 02:22:02 PM
Watching the highlights of the U23s there's a few things to mention:

4-5 of these Villa players are too good for U23, should either go out on loan or be training with the seniors.
Archer looks like he's bulked up a lot in the last year, looks much stronger and he really should've had a hattrick.
Us only getting 5 flatters them, we demolished them in the 2nd half.
Ramsey nearly scored one of the best goals you'll ever see, just needed to put more on the shot at the end.
The Academy grounds at BMH look incredible, the improvement in the facilities is huge and that will play a big part in us attracting the very best youngsters.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on August 14, 2021, 08:19:56 PM
Young looked decent too. Agree Archer probably should have scored more, was a real handful as was Ramsey.

Enjoyed the U23s game a lot more than the senior one! The villa TV coverage of them is pretty good too.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Matt C on August 16, 2021, 11:57:22 AM
Bradley Young heading to Carlisle on loan, good luck to him.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on August 17, 2021, 06:28:25 PM
Is the full match available anywhere? I've only seen the highlights on the OS FB Page.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: rjp on August 17, 2021, 07:26:02 PM
Is the full match available anywhere? I've only seen the highlights on the OS FB Page.

It's on Villa TV but I think you need to subscribe to see the full 90.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: PeterWithe on August 17, 2021, 08:45:22 PM
The whole game isnt on there, as far as I can see, just 10 mins of highlights.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 17, 2021, 09:13:42 PM
Tyreik Wright gone to Salford City on loan. https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/Wright-joins-Salford-City-on-loan/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on August 20, 2021, 07:06:45 PM
U23s vs Middlesbrough this evening.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on August 20, 2021, 08:01:45 PM
1-2 up at HT. Archer and Ramsey.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on August 20, 2021, 08:48:34 PM
I see Chukwuemeka came on as sub. I assume that's Caleb?! Bit confusing when they only put C Chukwuemeka on the screen.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: ozzjim on August 20, 2021, 08:58:04 PM
It was Caleb
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on August 20, 2021, 09:22:10 PM
Ta.

I'd be surprised if there's not 2 or 3 more of the kids going out on loan.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on August 20, 2021, 10:02:30 PM
1-2 FT.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on August 20, 2021, 11:18:46 PM
Ta.

I'd be surprised if there's not 2 or 3 more of the kids going out on loan.

Same.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: pooligan on August 21, 2021, 11:43:59 AM
How about this for a score  After 38 minutes of this mornings match at Bodymoor   it is Villa 6 Norwich 0
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 21, 2021, 12:13:57 PM
How about this for a score  After 38 minutes of this mornings match at Bodymoor   it is Villa 6 Norwich 0

Which age group is this pooligan?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: pooligan on August 21, 2021, 12:15:27 PM
Make that 7-0 after 51 minutes Meanwhile in the the same league the boys from the Two stands areana are already three down after 25 minutes at Southampton ,that is what happens when you join the big boys chaps
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 21, 2021, 12:15:45 PM
Under 18s, now 7-0. Goals for Kahrel Redding, Taylor Jay-Hart (2), Dewain Sewell (2) and Ajani Burchall, our new Bermudan signing from Bournemouth, (2).

Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: pooligan on August 21, 2021, 12:16:52 PM
U18  Percy
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 21, 2021, 12:23:23 PM
U18  Percy

Ta.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on August 21, 2021, 12:28:20 PM
Under 18s, now 7-0. Goals for Kahrel Redding, Taylor Jay-Hart (2), Dewain Sewell (2) and Ajani Burchall, our new Bermudan signing from Bournemouth, (2).

Apparently Burchall has been incredible and looks like he's far too good for U18 football.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 21, 2021, 12:33:45 PM
Eight-nil. Aaron O'Reilly.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 21, 2021, 12:37:20 PM
Nine, come on get ten, please! Dewain Sewell completing his hat-trick for the ninth.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: pooligan on August 21, 2021, 12:38:11 PM
Make that 9-0 now
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 21, 2021, 12:41:11 PM
TEN!!!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 21, 2021, 12:41:22 PM
poor norwich 🤔
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: pooligan on August 21, 2021, 12:42:02 PM
10 -0 now
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 21, 2021, 12:44:02 PM
That's Burchall's hat-trick, too. Do they have half a match ball each?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: pooligan on August 21, 2021, 12:45:59 PM
Both Sewell and Burchell hat tricks 
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on August 21, 2021, 02:13:53 PM
Get some of the U23's out on loan and promote some of the U18's to the U23's.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 24, 2021, 09:45:59 AM
Still no highlights of the 10-0, anywhere.

Wound any other club try to keep a 10-0 win a secret from most of its fans? Utterly baffling.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Nev on August 24, 2021, 09:50:26 AM
Still no highlights of the 10-0, anywhere.

Wound any other club try to keep a 10-0 win a secret from most of its fans? Utterly baffling.

I saw a post on Twitter yesterday, I think it was from the club account.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 24, 2021, 09:54:08 AM
They showed goals from our under-23 win can't find any coverage of the under-18s' 10-0 win.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 24, 2021, 09:54:36 AM
Sylla, who looked promising against Liverpool in the cup, has left to sign for Almeria.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: KNVillan on August 24, 2021, 09:57:19 AM
Here you go cdbwf

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1429838544802127878?s=21
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 24, 2021, 09:59:35 AM
Cheers mate, take it back. Looked all over their Twitter account for them, must not have woken up yet. 🙂
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: eamonn on August 24, 2021, 07:03:19 PM
Sylla, who looked promising against Liverpool in the cup, has left to sign for Almeria.

Strange...how come?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 24, 2021, 07:07:16 PM
No idea. Perhaps he fancied the move? He'S from Spain so could have been homesick perhaps more understandable in current circumstances. I don't think Villa released him.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: eamonn on August 24, 2021, 09:56:14 PM
Ah ok, didn't realise he was Spanish. Understandable that being away from home at that age can be tough.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: pooligan on August 24, 2021, 10:42:37 PM
I read a  couple of weeks back that Sylla wanted to leave because he wanted the same sort of chances as Bidace and Chuwuemeka were given training wit the first team
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on August 25, 2021, 12:53:09 AM
Sylla, who looked promising against Liverpool in the cup, has left to sign for Almeria.

Work in Almeria fairly regularly so sometimes watch them (also watch Albacete, Malaga and Elche when in Spain), will keep an eye on him.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 27, 2021, 07:49:01 PM
Caleb Chukwuemeka equalises for the under-23s, now Villa 1 Fulham 1.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: fredm on August 27, 2021, 08:04:53 PM
Hard match. Fulham look the better team but Villa have hung in there. Need to pass that little bit better, find their man better.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on August 27, 2021, 10:56:29 PM
The vast majority of the better players are out on loan or involved with the first team.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on August 27, 2021, 11:53:31 PM
The vast majority of the better players are out on loan or involved with the first team.

... and i suspect the team we put out today has an average age of about 18 making it a very young group even for the u23s.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Mister E on August 28, 2021, 08:35:48 AM
Lee Carsley has selected 1 Villa player - Jacob Ramsey - for the England U21's; his first squad.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 28, 2021, 10:54:46 AM
Tyriek Wright, currently on loan at Salford, is in the Ireland under-21's, too.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 28, 2021, 01:57:31 PM
U18s lose 4-1 to Fulham. https://twitter.com/academyavfc/status/1431599717654405120
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 28, 2021, 03:05:52 PM
Tyriek Wright, currently on loan at Salford, is in the Ireland under-21's, too.

Celebrating by scoring in the 1st minute against Newport.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on August 31, 2021, 03:18:22 PM
Dom Revan gone out to Northampton.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: SaddVillan on August 31, 2021, 03:20:53 PM
So far, we've loaned out:

Tyriek Wright - Salford City
Brad Young - Carlisle United
Arjan Raikhy - Stockport County
Seb Revan - Grimsby Town
Also Onodi - Bromsgrove Sporting
Kaine Kesler - Swindon Town
Louie Barry - Ipswich Town
Indian Vassilev - Inter Miami
Dom Revan - Northampton Town

The Jedi is certainly going to be busy keeping abreast of their progress.

The number of players that we've loaned out is evidence that Purslow's statement about not wanting players drifting in the U23s is being actioned.

Clearly they all won't make the first team squad, but sending them out on loan will help in deciding which ones have the ability, physical strength and character to be worth keeping.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: KNVillan on August 31, 2021, 06:55:09 PM
Side for this evening


(https://i.ibb.co/HxFH901/7-C826-ABB-84-F9-480-F-881-E-C27-B5-D3-D7-EE8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HxFH901)

Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: sickbeggar on August 31, 2021, 07:13:34 PM
mungo bridge gone on loan I think
tps://www.fc-annecy.fr/actualite/post/n1-recrue-joueur-mungo-bridge (http://tps://www.fc-annecy.fr/actualite/post/n1-recrue-joueur-mungo-bridge)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Nev on August 31, 2021, 07:14:44 PM
1 nil down. Defence looks ropey.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Demitri_C on August 31, 2021, 07:15:13 PM
The kids currently losing to wycombe. Poor defending and performance so far
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Demitri_C on August 31, 2021, 07:16:07 PM
Awful miss by JPB
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Demitri_C on August 31, 2021, 07:24:10 PM
Archers looking really good

JPB really looking gash. Missed two sitters
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Nev on August 31, 2021, 07:28:20 PM
Match delayed. Partridge on the pitch.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Nev on August 31, 2021, 07:28:55 PM
Restarted. Partridge returned to pear tree.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Nev on August 31, 2021, 07:35:20 PM
Zych with a decent save and they've hit the post as well.
Sanson looks like he's carrying a bit of extra timber...
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Demitri_C on August 31, 2021, 07:35:51 PM
Wycombe well on top here. Zito and archer best players so far.

Sanson been very quiet and JPBs been pretty poor
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Demitri_C on August 31, 2021, 07:38:14 PM
Archer close!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 31, 2021, 07:38:49 PM
Archer close!

How you watching the game ?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Nev on August 31, 2021, 07:45:42 PM
Archer levels, assist from Sanson.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Nev on August 31, 2021, 07:51:18 PM
HT one apiece.

Crap for half an hour but got better and finished the half on top.
Sanson doing what Connor did at Barrow last week, Archer very good, JPB missed a couple of chances.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Demitri_C on August 31, 2021, 07:58:16 PM
Archer close!

How you watching the game ?

Ifollow mate
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on August 31, 2021, 08:07:44 PM
Good to see Thorndike listed by name rather than 'Trialist'.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Demitri_C on August 31, 2021, 08:09:07 PM
Brilliant stuff. Archer so close
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on August 31, 2021, 08:13:39 PM
https://twitter.com/wwfcofficial/status/1432776206097735681?s=08
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Demitri_C on August 31, 2021, 08:17:04 PM
Trilaist looks really good
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: KNVillan on August 31, 2021, 08:17:58 PM
Sanson off at half-time…for those watching - is he injured again?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: SaddVillan on August 31, 2021, 08:22:43 PM
Academy twitter feed says planned substitution- NOT an injury.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: KNVillan on August 31, 2021, 08:25:19 PM
Thanks SaddVillan, much appreciated
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Demitri_C on August 31, 2021, 08:27:44 PM
JPB !! 2-1
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Nev on August 31, 2021, 08:27:55 PM
2-1. JPB, Archer assist, he's been great.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 31, 2021, 08:30:22 PM
2-1. JPB, Archer assist, he's been great.


In what way ? looking sharp ?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Nev on August 31, 2021, 08:36:50 PM
Best Villa player on the pitch for me. Creative, dangerous and also putting the graft in defensively.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Demitri_C on August 31, 2021, 08:42:59 PM
Swinkels havw a mare. Should have been  2-2. Shoxking defending from him there
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: KNVillan on August 31, 2021, 08:57:40 PM
1-3….JPB! Another Cam assist
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 31, 2021, 08:58:05 PM
Who scored the 3rd?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 31, 2021, 08:58:16 PM
Cheers
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Demitri_C on August 31, 2021, 08:58:44 PM
Supeeb 3rd
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: dave shelley on August 31, 2021, 09:00:15 PM
Who scored the 3rd?

JP-Bidace
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Nev on August 31, 2021, 09:00:23 PM
Archer MOTM, narrowly though, JPB was also excellent.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Ads on August 31, 2021, 09:04:06 PM
Bidace is ace.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: LukeJames on August 31, 2021, 09:09:12 PM
What a name Finley Thorndike is.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: dave shelley on August 31, 2021, 09:09:40 PM
Brad Young scored a penalty in a shoot-out to give Carlise a victory over Hartlepool.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on August 31, 2021, 09:30:13 PM
https://twitter.com/supervilladad/status/1432788061876854791?s=21
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: LukeJames on August 31, 2021, 09:34:51 PM
Just a bit of perspective, the team we beat in last years Youth Cup Final lost 4-0 to Rochdale.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Dave P on August 31, 2021, 09:37:28 PM
Just a bit of perspective, the team we beat in last years Youth Cup Final lost 4-0 to Rochdale.

And the team we beat today were in the Championship last season
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: ozzjim on September 01, 2021, 01:12:56 AM
Caleb Chuck looked good on the ball in the highlights. So does number 47. Tim.....
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 01, 2021, 01:59:39 AM
Good highlights here

https://twitter.com/wwfcofficial/status/1432855723793289220?s=21
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Demitri_C on September 01, 2021, 07:28:27 AM
First 25-30 minutes we were really poor but then as the game progressed we were so much better.  Its good JPB got a brace as he missed a couple sitters in 1st half. Good go see his confidence was not shot.

Archer motm for me

Sanson very good second half
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: paul_e on September 01, 2021, 10:18:25 AM
Caleb Chuck looked good on the ball in the highlights. So does number 47. Tim.....

I agree on Tim, he looks a very good player from what I've seen, I reckon he might end up making his debut before the end of the season.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on September 01, 2021, 11:04:43 AM
First 25-30 minutes we were really poor but then as the game progressed we were so much better.  Its good JPB got a brace as he missed a couple sitters in 1st half. Good go see his confidence was not shot.

Archer motm for me

Sanson very good second half

Wasn't Sanson taken off at half time?!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: KNVillan on September 01, 2021, 11:16:01 AM
First 25-30 minutes we were really poor but then as the game progressed we were so much better.  Its good JPB got a brace as he missed a couple sitters in 1st half. Good go see his confidence was not shot.

Archer motm for me

Sanson very good second half

Wasn't Sanson taken off at half time?!

He was…Dem_C is wrong
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on September 01, 2021, 11:20:20 AM
Lindley replaced him so I assume he means him. Lindley looked good in his brief cameo against Barrow.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: darren woolley on September 01, 2021, 05:05:51 PM
I was there last night the youngsters played well Sanson played the first half.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 01, 2021, 08:10:00 PM
I was there last night the youngsters played well Sanson played the first half.

Fair play! Must have been a few there, I was surprised how loud the cheers were for the Villa goals.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 02, 2021, 09:32:31 PM
I was there last night the youngsters played well Sanson played the first half.


How was Sanson?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: darren woolley on September 03, 2021, 12:29:40 PM
I was there last night the youngsters played well Sanson played the first half.


How was Sanson?

He did ok.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: darren woolley on September 03, 2021, 12:32:10 PM
I was there last night the youngsters played well Sanson played the first half.

Fair play! Must have been a few there, I was surprised how loud the cheers were for the Villa goals.

There were over 1,400 hundred in attendance and we took about an hundred or more there.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: darren woolley on September 03, 2021, 12:34:06 PM
It was the first time we have won in the EFL Trophy.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: LukeJames on September 03, 2021, 07:08:18 PM
Finley Thorndike signs with us after a few trial matches. Hopefully he makes it big with us, purely for having a great name.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on September 03, 2021, 07:22:55 PM
Good, they can stop calling him 'Trialist' now :)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 03, 2021, 08:13:35 PM
Tyreik Wright scores (pen) as ROI U-21s beat Bosnia 2-0.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: robleflaneur on September 04, 2021, 02:50:03 PM
Chuk captained England u19s to a 2-0 win v Italy.Ramsey and keeper Marshall are also in the squad.Same amount of players as Chelsea and Spurs,Citeh have the most with 4.
A bit of a sobering reassessment of our youngsters' potential ?  But..of the other clubs who got to the last 8,Everton,Liverpool and Sheff U have one player each in the squad.
Different nationalities,a glut of players for the same position ,a few high talented players at one club but our feeder club,the Baggies thumped Spurs 5-0,yet Spurs get 3 in the squad .
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: eamonn on September 05, 2021, 03:58:31 PM
Tyreik Wright scores (pen) as ROI U-21s beat Bosnia 2-0.

Try him in the first team...we're a bag of bruscar at the moment.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Martyn Smith on September 07, 2021, 02:53:36 PM
I was at Wycombe Tues for my first ever reserves match. There were certainly a good few other Villa fans there which made it feel like a bit of a shame that we all weren't sitting together, there where enough of us to constitute an end, or at least a section, I thought. I presume the group of Villa fans who were together in the one stand (Lords Stand I think it's called) were the official party, friends and family of the players, who had come in the two coaches in the lower car park. Pity we weren't all together, given that we'd all made a journey of some description to go and watch the kids.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: KNVillan on September 10, 2021, 07:11:14 PM
Side for the PL2 game tonight
(https://i.ibb.co/MPZ455c/D65302-D5-B96-D-4087-A054-13-D7-EA0-B5403.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MPZ455c)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Mister E on September 10, 2021, 07:13:48 PM
Lindley captain: he looks like a decent CMF.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 10, 2021, 07:22:45 PM
Carrot crunchers 1-0 up.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: KNVillan on September 10, 2021, 07:30:56 PM
Their goal

https://twitter.com/norwichcityacad/status/1436395547120767000?s=21
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: KNVillan on September 10, 2021, 07:43:03 PM
1-1 just before half-time. Tim Iroegbunam with the goal. Now half-time
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: KNVillan on September 10, 2021, 08:08:15 PM
2-1 to them. Penalty (47mins)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: KNVillan on September 10, 2021, 08:16:34 PM
3-1 to them
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: KNVillan on September 10, 2021, 08:23:03 PM
4-1 to them 🙁
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: KNVillan on September 10, 2021, 08:40:06 PM
Their second half goals

https://twitter.com/norwichcityacad/status/1436413747459985413?s=21
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on September 10, 2021, 08:59:17 PM
Presumably Aaron Ramsey is in the senior squad then.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: KNVillan on September 10, 2021, 08:59:54 PM
4-2 late goal by Karl Reddin (97mins)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: Legion on September 10, 2021, 09:15:01 PM
Presumably Aaron Ramsey is in the senior squad then.

A few are in London.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on September 11, 2021, 12:09:57 AM
With Chukwuemeka (Carney) and JPB out injured there were bound to be some call-ups for the 9 man bench. I wasn't even thinking of Cam, I was automatically assuming he would be part of the squad!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: dcdavecollett on September 12, 2021, 02:13:03 AM
Abysmal defending for three of the Naaaarch goals.

We live and learn, hopefully...
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: OCD on September 12, 2021, 01:20:52 PM
The youth system is still a long way away from where I want it to get too. Hopefully the club think that too.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: eamonn on September 13, 2021, 05:50:25 PM
Presumably Aaron Ramsey is in the senior squad then.

A few are in London.

On the piss (m'lord) ?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: dcdavecollett on September 14, 2021, 12:28:48 AM
JPB's performance against Wycombe was really impressive; a real shame he ended up with his foot in a protective boot after ten minutes of playing for England!

Does anyone know how serious it is?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 14, 2021, 04:56:22 PM
Here you go, all those who asked for it:

https://www.birminghamfa.com/cups-and-competitions/cups/2019-2020/senior-challenge-cup/fixtures
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 14, 2021, 05:01:06 PM
Glad to hear it. Coventry Sphinx seem like twats so win please.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 14, 2021, 05:03:19 PM
Glad to hear it. Coventry Sphinx seem like twats so win please.

They're okay. Better than Coventry United at any rate.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 14, 2021, 08:09:17 PM
I feel like we have seen one of them play. Away to whoever the team was that was sharing Stourbridge's ground.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 14, 2021, 08:14:08 PM
Causeway United v Coventry Sphinx
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 14, 2021, 08:16:59 PM
That sounds about right.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: Villa Lew on September 17, 2021, 12:52:10 PM
Under 23s home to Albion tonight 6pm ko
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: Rotterdam on September 17, 2021, 01:44:14 PM
I shall attempt a report tomorrow...could get lively.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 17, 2021, 02:24:01 PM
Under 23s home to Albion tonight 6pm ko

Albion Old Stars v Villa Future Stars
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: OCD on September 17, 2021, 04:12:49 PM
What's left of them.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: KNVillan on September 17, 2021, 05:12:19 PM
Team for tonight against the baggies

(https://i.ibb.co/VWMTNzz/3981-DBE6-CD31-4-AAA-9641-35009882-ED5-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VWMTNzz)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: paul_e on September 17, 2021, 06:07:10 PM
1-0 already, great gola by chuk snr
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: SheffieldVillain on September 17, 2021, 06:37:02 PM
2-1 Villa. Belting goal from Ramsey Jnr.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: paul_e on September 17, 2021, 06:42:52 PM
They equalised from a free kick after about 18-19minutes but Ramsey has just put us back ahead after dribbling through about 4-5 tackles.

So far we've been miles better than them, Caleb Chuk looks far too good for kids football, I suspect he'll be off on loan in January if he's not on the fringes of the first team by then.

Oh and there's a 3rd, Chuk again.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: SheffieldVillain on September 17, 2021, 06:50:08 PM
Very entertaining half of football.

Great desire to get the ball back and when we have it always looking to move the ball forward quickly. The striking thing for me is how comfortable all of our players look on the ball, loads of skill out there.

Caleb Chuk has played well and Thorndike has some real quality on the ball. Ramsey Jnr a class above. Also really like the look of Lindley, who has put in some great tackles.

Wouldn't have flattered us to have had 4 or 5 goals.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: paul_e on September 17, 2021, 06:54:19 PM
Thorndike has the thing a lot of young wingers do which is he looks fantastic until it comes to end product, he should have a goal or 2 and at least 1 assist already.

Iroegbunam is going to be a player I reckon, he's not quite ready but he has everything you'd want from a young centre midfielder.

The only negative is that our defence has looked a bit of a mess but I think most of that is down to swinkels looking badly out of position at left back.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: kipeye on September 17, 2021, 06:54:29 PM
Enjoying this a lot. Great to watch free-flowing football and some great talent on show.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: OCD on September 17, 2021, 07:08:17 PM
We finally sign Thorndike so that he no longer appears as 'Triallist' and we sign another one! Anyone have any idea who the trialist is?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: SheffieldVillain on September 17, 2021, 07:11:32 PM
We finally sign Thorndike so that he no longer appears as 'Triallist' and we sign another one! Anyone have any idea who the trialist is?

According to Twitter, Declan Frith, who played for Chelsea as a left-back last season. Seems to be playing much further forward for us though.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 17, 2021, 07:13:32 PM
2-1 Villa. Belting goal from Ramsey Jnr.

https://twitter.com/academyavfc/status/1438921179889291264
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Post by: paul_e on September 17, 2021, 07:18:36 PM
We've played poorly so far in the 2nd half and as a result they've pulled one back from a corner, hopefully we wake up a bit now.

3-2
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Post by: paul_e on September 17, 2021, 07:22:37 PM
We finally sign Thorndike so that he no longer appears as 'Triallist' and we sign another one! Anyone have any idea who the trialist is?

According to Twitter, Declan Frith, who played for Chelsea as a left-back last season. Seems to be playing much further forward for us though.

I think I'd like to see him as a full back, he's a bit meh on the wing, not got the pace or skill to make a full back uncomfortable but does seem pretty neat and tidy.
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Post by: paul_e on September 17, 2021, 07:31:03 PM
Better since they scored but a few players trying to do it on their own.

Ramsey has been subbed but they were doubling up on him and he'd barely had a kick 2nd half.
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Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 17, 2021, 07:35:24 PM
Better since they scored but a few players trying to do it on their own.

Ramsey has been subbed but they were doubling up on him and he'd barely had a kick 2nd half.

Not watching the game but that seems a weird reaction, surely the manager (and players) should be identifying where the extra man is?
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Post by: paul_e on September 17, 2021, 07:40:22 PM
Better since they scored but a few players trying to do it on their own.

Ramsey has been subbed but they were doubling up on him and he'd barely had a kick 2nd half.

Not watching the game but that seems a weird reaction, surely the manager (and players) should be identifying where the extra man is?

I'm not sure if he went off because of it, just pointing out that we didn't take off a guy who was bossing play. Lad who came on for him (O'Reilly) has worked his tits off to be fair, reminds me a bit of trez, in both good and bad ways, seems to sometimes be running too much for his own good.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on September 17, 2021, 07:43:11 PM
What a move and super goal by Chuckie senior
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Post by: paul_e on September 17, 2021, 07:45:05 PM
Big Chuk gets his hattrick, great ball to him by Frith (the trialist).

He'd missed a couple of decent chances this half so glad he didn't blow it. His movement off the ball is really good, I reckon he'd do really well with passes from Buendia and Bailey.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 17, 2021, 08:12:08 PM
Big Chuk gets his hattrick, great ball to him by Frith (the trialist).

https://twitter.com/academyavfc/status/1438940474367172618
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Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 17, 2021, 08:27:59 PM
Big Chuk gets his hattrick, great ball to him by Frith (the trialist).

https://twitter.com/academyavfc/status/1438940474367172618

That’s filthy from the number 7.  Who is that? 
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Post by: paul_e on September 17, 2021, 08:48:28 PM
Big Chuk gets his hattrick, great ball to him by Frith (the trialist).

https://twitter.com/academyavfc/status/1438940474367172618

That’s filthy from the number 7.  Who is that? 

Trialist from Chelsea called Frith. He was struggling to have an impact for the first hour but that was quality and he had a couple of nearly moments just before.
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Post by: OCD on September 17, 2021, 09:22:34 PM
Was there anyone in the Albion team worth taking? :)
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Post by: paul_e on September 17, 2021, 09:47:21 PM
Was there anyone in the Albion team worth taking? :)

I know you're taking the piss but no, not really, one of the attacking players was decent but nothing more. The central defenders were totally overwhelmed by chuk, ramsey and thorndike, it really wouldn't have flattered us if we'd put 7-8 on them.
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Post by: Rotterdam on September 18, 2021, 12:11:07 PM
Thorndike has the thing a lot of young wingers do which is he looks fantastic until it comes to end product, he should have a goal or 2 and at least 1 assist already.

Iroegbunam is going to be a player I reckon, he's not quite ready but he has everything you'd want from a young centre midfielder.

The only negative is that our defence has looked a bit of a mess but I think most of that is down to swinkels looking badly out of position at left back.

paul_e is about right I'd say.

Decent crowd last night of 300 or so.
Ramsay Jnr is class and ran the show, he had the crowd gasping over a few touches and dribbles, plus he has a great ability to drift in to space.
Caleb Chuck finished his goals well and had 3 or 4 more chances.
Tim is a quality '8'. Great range of passes and glides across the pitch. He's a lovely lad but in for terms has a bit of an edge.
The trialist was good in small flashes; his attempted 'rainbow flick' in the first half didn't go down well with the Villa bench. Boateng shouting orders from pitchside, Delaney at the back of the stand.

Prior to the game I was approached by Gary Shaw (!) to confirm the WBA formation. I then had to tell the lads who he was, they were highly impressed he had a European Cup medal and was EYPotY.
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Post by: dave shelley on September 18, 2021, 12:55:36 PM
Good post Rotterdam thank you.  In your opinion, does the trialist have what it takes to earn a contract seeing the level of talent we are currently recruiting.

Makes me feel really old when you have to tell kids who Gary Shaw is!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: Rotterdam on September 18, 2021, 01:27:39 PM
I'd say 'no' dave. He apparently turned down a contract offer from Chelsea and seems to fancy he can get a better offer elsewhere (see Tim Iroegbunam). 

Talking with my dad after the game, we were discussing the chances of the lads making 'it'. Even U23 at a top academy like Villa they have a small chance of making the PL. Most will make a decent living for a few years in the lower leagues. Not many make the PL grade and if they haven't by 19/20 years old, they probably won't. Finn Thorndike was nowhere near the 1st team at WBA, but Villa have probably signed him as an extra body to cover for the likes of Barry, Young etc while they are on loan. The Villa academy staff would know him well.
The other thing is the balancing act of players like Carney and Cameron Archer being around the 1st team squad but not getting much, if any, game time. Too good for U23, not quite there for the 1st team. One of WBA U23s hadn't played play three and a half weeks, aside from training with the first team.

A final thing is the money...some of these lads are on 2k, 3k, 5k a week! Madness until you consider that a young first year pro on a three year contact could earn nearly 500k before they are too far past their 21st birthday. But if one or two make it, they could save the club tens of millions in fees plus earn them a huge transfer fee (see our old number 10). Even if they arent deemed good enough, a lower level team may throw an offer in. 
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Post by: Legion on September 18, 2021, 01:56:08 PM
Not quite there for the first team yet. Plus they need to be given an opportunity to see if they are good enough at the highest level and barring injuries I cannot see Cam starting ahead of Watkins or Ings. Just hoping for a few appearances from the bench at the moment. He was so close to coming on against Brentford for the last 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: dave shelley on September 18, 2021, 02:52:35 PM
Thanks for the insight Rotterdam it's much appreciated.  As you say, if those on 2k a week don't make it at PL level, by the time they move on they could almost be set-up financially for life if they're careful, guaranteed to be nailed-on if they make it in the championship.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: OCD on September 19, 2021, 01:19:51 PM
I know a lad who was in the Blues academy and must have been on good money. Ultimately he was released but he invested in property and lets them out and has a business coaching golf so he's a good example. He was a bit full of himself when I started to get to know him, just after he had been released but he became more down to earth and became a good guy.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 22, 2021, 07:24:48 PM
We won 6-2 last night.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: OCD on September 22, 2021, 09:16:09 PM
We won 6-2 last night.

What game was that?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: KNVillan on September 22, 2021, 09:19:49 PM
‘Twas the Birmingham Senior cup
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: KNVillan on September 27, 2021, 06:40:37 PM
U23 tea to face Stoke U23 tonight at 7.00


(https://i.ibb.co/fkSFmcC/C4-BE86-CE-8598-4-D02-88-EB-A4544767-A36-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fkSFmcC)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: KNVillan on September 27, 2021, 06:43:16 PM
Stoke U23 team


(https://i.ibb.co/TmCdn5t/56-B4-C97-D-CA85-46-D5-AC8-E-69-B9212685-A0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TmCdn5t)

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Post by: Mister E on September 27, 2021, 06:50:54 PM
U23 tea to face Stoke U23 tonight at 7.00


(https://i.ibb.co/fkSFmcC/C4-BE86-CE-8598-4-D02-88-EB-A4544767-A36-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fkSFmcC)

Strong side, that.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 27, 2021, 06:54:48 PM
Strong side, that.

You say that but Josh Feeney's playing and he only turned 16 in May.
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Post by: KNVillan on September 27, 2021, 07:07:31 PM
0-1 Aaron Ramsey after 4mins…
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Post by: pooligan on September 27, 2021, 07:08:58 PM
Aaron Ramsey scores after 5 mins to give Villa the lead
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Post by: KNVillan on September 27, 2021, 07:40:40 PM
0-2 after 39 mins, JPB with the second goal
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Post by: KNVillan on September 27, 2021, 07:42:32 PM
0-3 after 41, Caleb Chukwuemeka with the third
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Post by: TheMalandro on September 27, 2021, 07:44:22 PM
I’m not really a big gambler, but when I checked the teams, Ive backed us a fair bit tonight.
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Post by: pooligan on September 27, 2021, 07:44:54 PM
Come on you Villa boys lets get a lot more
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Post by: TheMalandro on September 27, 2021, 07:45:35 PM
Bravo!
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Post by: KNVillan on September 27, 2021, 07:47:27 PM
0-4 after 45, Carney with the fourth
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Post by: pooligan on September 27, 2021, 07:48:41 PM
I was a bit worried when i read that Stoke had selected two first team strikers in Oakley Boothe and Campbell 
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Post by: KNVillan on September 27, 2021, 07:51:58 PM
0-4 Half time. It appears Ramsey’s goal has been credited to a defender OG
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 27, 2021, 07:55:18 PM
Shaun Wright-Phillips's son in the Stoke team, to make you feel old.
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Post by: pooligan on September 27, 2021, 07:58:39 PM
And Macari son to
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: KNVillan on September 27, 2021, 07:59:05 PM
Shaun Wright-Phillips's son in the Stoke team, to make you feel old.

Lou Macari’s grandson Lewis is also playing for Stoke….that makes me feel even older!
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Post by: Bad English on September 27, 2021, 08:06:12 PM
U23 tea to face Stoke U23 tonight at 7.00


(https://i.ibb.co/fkSFmcC/C4-BE86-CE-8598-4-D02-88-EB-A4544767-A36-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fkSFmcC)

Strong side, that.
It's in the bag.
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Post by: KNVillan on September 27, 2021, 08:11:59 PM
0-5 after 50, Carney with his second
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Post by: KNVillan on September 27, 2021, 08:15:21 PM
0-6 after 55, Caleb with his second
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Post by: KNVillan on September 27, 2021, 08:18:12 PM
0-7 after 57; JPB with his second (although could be Carney)
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Post by: Toronto Villa on September 27, 2021, 08:20:29 PM
We really are quite decent aren't we? These kids just look so very good.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 27, 2021, 08:21:16 PM
It's A Ramsey 1, JPB 3, Caleb Chukwuemeka 1, Carney Chukwuemeka 2 according to Fotmob/Villa Academy Twitter.
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Post by: Ger Regan on September 27, 2021, 08:24:25 PM
Any word on who the trialist is?
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Post by: KNVillan on September 27, 2021, 08:25:39 PM
Any word on who the trialist is?

I believe it is Declan Frith
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Post by: KNVillan on September 27, 2021, 08:27:33 PM
It's A Ramsey 1, JPB 3, Caleb Chukwuemeka 1, Carney Chukwuemeka 2 according to Fotmob/Villa Academy Twitter.

Villa Academy have just tweeted this

https://twitter.com/academyavfc/status/1442570774838226953?s=21
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Post by: KNVillan on September 27, 2021, 08:47:38 PM
0-8 after 87, JPB with his hat-trick
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 27, 2021, 08:47:39 PM
Well, it's eight-nil now, whoever has scored!
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Post by: KNVillan on September 27, 2021, 08:49:45 PM
😃
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Post by: KNVillan on September 27, 2021, 08:57:34 PM
0-8 Full Time. Villa U23 move to top place in PL2 Division 2
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Post by: pooligan on September 27, 2021, 09:12:10 PM
Well done you Villa boys ,how i would love to see our first team do that to their first team
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Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 27, 2021, 09:25:39 PM
What was the other hammering we handed out? Norwich 9-0?
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Post by: Lsvilla on September 27, 2021, 09:29:09 PM
What was the other hammering we handed out? Norwich 9-0?
I think the u18’s got 10 against Norwich. 10-1 if I remember right.
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Post by: paul_e on September 27, 2021, 10:54:23 PM
It's only reserve team football but everything I've seen and heard about chuk senior makes me think he was an absolute steal.

Chuk jnr and JPB are just far too good for reserve team football and I suspect Ramsey will join his brother in the first teamsquad soon as well, this lot could save us an absolute fortune in the next couple of seasons.
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Post by: Colhint on September 27, 2021, 10:58:52 PM
I agree, I think the next 2 windows maybe one or two purchases  and maybe a loan here and there, to give the kids some time to grow
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Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 28, 2021, 03:37:19 AM
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/match-reports/stoke-city-aston-villa-under23s-5979299
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Post by: Mister E on September 28, 2021, 08:17:03 AM
Strong side, that.
You say that but Josh Feeney's playing and he only turned 16 in May.
.... and, to state the obvious truism, if you're good enough ...
But - yes - you're right to point out that it was a team of mixed experience: having the Chuks, A Ramsey, JPB and Bogarde in the side gave it a very strong spine.
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Post by: UK Redsox on September 28, 2021, 11:00:20 AM
What was the other hammering we handed out? Norwich 9-0?
I think the u18’s got 10 against Norwich. 10-1 if I remember right.

Reserves beat Arsenal 10-1 back in 2011

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Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on September 28, 2021, 11:10:08 AM
What was the other hammering we handed out? Norwich 9-0?
I think the u18’s got 10 against Norwich. 10-1 if I remember right.

Reserves beat Arsenal 10-1 back in 2011



Avenging the Ted Drake massacre.
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 28, 2021, 11:25:47 AM
Strong side, that.
You say that but Josh Feeney's playing and he only turned 16 in May.
.... and, to state the obvious truism, if you're good enough ...
But - yes - you're right to point out that it was a team of mixed experience: having the Chuks, A Ramsey, JPB and Bogarde in the side gave it a very strong spine.

Agreed, it was more a 'blimey he must be good to be in that team at CB when he's barely 16' comment than anything else.
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Post by: Hookeysmith on September 28, 2021, 01:03:48 PM
As good as a of of these kids obviously are the more pleasing thing is how we are actually introducing them to first team activities and even bench / game time.

With Dean, the coaches and Mark Delaney  we really do have a wonderful football set up today

Is it any wonder all the best young talent wanted to play for us?
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Post by: paul_e on September 28, 2021, 04:32:36 PM
Watching the highlights on villatv the thing that really stuck out for me was how good carney chuk and tim iroegbunam look together, both have a similar physique and both have quite a languid style but cover the ground brilliantly and pressure the ball really well ad then in possession they can both carry it out of defence and pick a pass. Ramsey is also a great talent but being the 'spare' in that midfield must be a delight.

Aside from that the chest control from caleb chuk for the 8th was immaculate, to repeat he was a fucking steal for what we paid.
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Post by: Sdwbvf on September 28, 2021, 05:32:00 PM
Shaun Wright-Phillips's son in the Stoke team, to make you feel old.

Even older as that makes him Ian Wright's grandson. And he's only 58.
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Post by: Exeter 77 on September 28, 2021, 05:51:44 PM
Shaun Wright-Phillips's son in the Stoke team, to make you feel old.

Even older as that makes him Ian Wright's grandson. And he's only 58.
Shaun Wight-Phillips is Ian Wight's step-son I think.
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Post by: dave shelley on September 28, 2021, 08:07:26 PM
Brad Young scores for Carlisle against Everton U21's in the EFL Trophy.  His first for them I believe.
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Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 28, 2021, 08:25:06 PM
are the goals available anywhere from last night?
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Post by: LukeJames on September 28, 2021, 08:29:32 PM
Brad Young scores for Carlisle against Everton U21's in the EFL Trophy.  His first for them I believe.

And again.
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Post by: dave shelley on September 28, 2021, 08:32:09 PM
are the goals available anywhere from last night?

Here You Go (https://video.avfc.co.uk/home?lang=en)  You may have to register, it's free.

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Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 28, 2021, 08:34:04 PM
Aside from that the chest control from caleb chuk for the 8th was immaculate, to repeat he was a fucking steal for what we paid.

Highlights here including the chested layout from Chuky Snr at the end. https://ww.youtube.com/watch?v=mrtwGTgmH90 (just add a 'w')
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Post by: paul_e on September 28, 2021, 08:40:43 PM
are the goals available anywhere from last night?

villatv, 6minutes of highlights, you just have to register (for free).
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Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 28, 2021, 10:23:00 PM
Watching the highlights on villatv the thing that really stuck out for me was how good carney chuk and tim iroegbunam look together, both have a similar physique and both have quite a languid style but cover the ground brilliantly and pressure the ball really well ad then in possession they can both carry it out of defence and pick a pass. Ramsey is also a great talent but being the 'spare' in that midfield must be a delight.

Aside from that the chest control from caleb chuk for the 8th was immaculate, to repeat he was a fucking steal for what we paid.

So is the older brother (Caleb?) playing as a midfielder?  When signed people suggested he was a forward with a poor scoring record (on YouTube he didn’t look like he was playing that role).
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Post by: Legion on September 28, 2021, 10:24:35 PM
All goals now on our FB Page.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 28, 2021, 11:19:10 PM
are the goals available anywhere from last night?

Here You Go (https://video.avfc.co.uk/home?lang=en)  You may have to register, it's free.



cheers
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Post by: paul_e on September 28, 2021, 11:35:17 PM
Watching the highlights on villatv the thing that really stuck out for me was how good carney chuk and tim iroegbunam look together, both have a similar physique and both have quite a languid style but cover the ground brilliantly and pressure the ball really well ad then in possession they can both carry it out of defence and pick a pass. Ramsey is also a great talent but being the 'spare' in that midfield must be a delight.

Aside from that the chest control from caleb chuk for the 8th was immaculate, to repeat he was a fucking steal for what we paid.

So is the older brother (Caleb?) playing as a midfielder?  When signed people suggested he was a forward with a poor scoring record (on YouTube he didn’t look like he was playing that role).

Up front but we seem to be pretty fluid with players drifting into each others space and all of our attacking players look like decent finishers. I love watching the U23s right now, they play fantastic football. Next match is Friday live on VillaTV and it's well worth the £2pm sub fee to watch.
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Post by: OCD on September 29, 2021, 11:23:57 AM
Good to see that JPB can play on the left. Some lovely interchanges and even though they scored 10, they still had other chances so it could have been even more.
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Post by: Legion on September 29, 2021, 11:25:06 AM
8
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Post by: OCD on September 29, 2021, 11:33:07 AM
Yeah, sorry 8. Getting mixed up with the earlier video and similar results.
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 29, 2021, 11:37:28 AM
Yeah, sorry 8. Getting mixed up with the earlier video and similar results.

Understandable, even in the highlights we missed a couple of gilt-edged chances so could easily have been 10.
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Post by: BC Villain on September 30, 2021, 09:00:00 PM
I think it was two years ago that Christian Purslow stood up at the supporters trust Agm and said something along the lines that our academy wasn't working if we had 22 year old playing in the under 23s, and that we needed to have an under 23 team full of excellent 16-18 year old.

Fair to say that vision is really making excellent progress 👏🏻
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Post by: KNVillan on October 01, 2021, 06:16:29 PM
U23 Team to face Wolves tonight.


(https://i.ibb.co/FBhN4WW/27-A19-CAD-B849-42-EC-AE5-A-6-C543-F9-B74-BA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FBhN4WW)


Trialist I believe is Declan Frith
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Post by: TonyD on October 01, 2021, 06:24:49 PM
What is the capacity at BMH?
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Post by: Mister E on October 01, 2021, 06:41:34 PM
U23 Team to face Wolves tonight.

(https://i.ibb.co/FBhN4WW/27-A19-CAD-B849-42-EC-AE5-A-6-C543-F9-B74-BA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FBhN4WW)

Trialist I believe is Declan Frith
That looks like a back 3 ....
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 01, 2021, 06:59:29 PM
U23 Team to face Wolves tonight.

(https://i.ibb.co/FBhN4WW/27-A19-CAD-B849-42-EC-AE5-A-6-C543-F9-B74-BA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FBhN4WW)

Trialist I believe is Declan Frith
That looks like a back 3 ....

Doesn't it just.
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Post by: DrGonzo on October 01, 2021, 07:00:14 PM
This "trialist" dude seems to get quite some game time.
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Post by: KNVillan on October 01, 2021, 08:02:28 PM
From The Villa Academy Twitter feed

Half Time: #AVFC 0-0 #WWFC Villa have grown into this but it has been an even first half with chances appearing for both sides. Villa have been frustrated by some last ditch and committed defending preventing any clear strike on goal but two deflected shots have gone close.
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Post by: Footy-Vill on October 01, 2021, 09:10:26 PM
Shame JPB playing would like him in the senior squad Sunday.
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Post by: Legion on October 01, 2021, 10:40:50 PM
FT 0-0.
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Post by: dcdavecollett on October 02, 2021, 02:54:25 AM
They were a lot bigger than us and we struggled to put several passes together -too many players looking like individuals who have to do it all themselves.

Ex-Albion Tim in midfield was superb; good games for Ealing and Bogarde as well. The latter really is a class footballer.
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 02, 2021, 01:37:07 PM
Ex-Albion Tim in midfield was superb; good games for Ealing and Bogarde as well. The latter really is a class footballer.

Even with all the promising kids we have Tim is one I have a funny feeling might well turn out to be a gem. Also really like the look of Bogarde anytime I see him play.
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Post by: pooligan on October 03, 2021, 01:36:56 PM
Wolves came to stop us playing and to be fair did it quite well and looked lie the most likely to win .Has to be the poorest i have ever seen Ramsey play but i guess he is going to have a bad game every now again
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Post by: Legion on October 03, 2021, 01:57:48 PM
Shame JPB playing would like him in the senior squad Sunday.

Rather surprisingly, he is.
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Post by: darren woolley on October 05, 2021, 11:03:42 AM
We play Burton tonight in the EFL trophy I'm looking forward to it.
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Post by: Hookeysmith on October 05, 2021, 05:06:10 PM
Are we able to watch anywhere
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Post by: Legion on October 05, 2021, 05:15:32 PM
Villa TV perhaps?
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Post by: KNVillan on October 05, 2021, 05:24:39 PM
You can watch on iFollow, which will cost you £10.00 (from Villa Academy Twitter)


(https://i.ibb.co/rF2VRHC/2-D74334-A-606-A-4-B9-A-A6-A6-D407-F5-D1-EA60.png) (https://ibb.co/rF2VRHC)

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Post by: KNVillan on October 05, 2021, 06:05:51 PM
Team for tonight’s Papa John Trophy game


(https://i.ibb.co/zHMnSDM/DFCF6010-C1-CA-4014-8-FAA-8-FCBB15-C8-B97.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zHMnSDM)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2021/22 - with added cup news
Post by: Nev on October 05, 2021, 07:20:10 PM
Nothing to write home about so far.
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Post by: Nev on October 05, 2021, 07:21:41 PM
One none down.
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Post by: KNVillan on October 05, 2021, 07:22:07 PM
Burton 1-0
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Post by: KNVillan on October 05, 2021, 07:24:18 PM
Now 2-0
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Post by: paul_e on October 05, 2021, 07:28:13 PM
To be fair it's not even a full strength u23 team for us and it's inexperience that is makingcthe difference so far.
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Post by: Demitri_C on October 05, 2021, 07:36:25 PM
Suprised we didnt go stronger
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Post by: Nev on October 05, 2021, 07:37:23 PM
Archer pulls one back. Great strike.
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Post by: paul_e on October 05, 2021, 07:37:25 PM
Got one back really good finish from Cam.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 05, 2021, 07:37:29 PM
I'd rather we didn't enter at all, it is supposed to be a chance for the lower league clubs to have a day in the sun and play in a Wembley final. Not everything has to revolve around the Premier League.
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Post by: KNVillan on October 05, 2021, 07:42:35 PM
Cracking finish by Cam

https://twitter.com/smitchellpoker/status/1445458282127134722?s=21
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Post by: KNVillan on October 05, 2021, 08:11:14 PM
Villa equalise through Abldeen-Goodridge…2-2
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Post by: Demitri_C on October 05, 2021, 08:15:58 PM
These burton commentators are clowns
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Post by: Demitri_C on October 05, 2021, 08:21:25 PM
Archer !! 3-2 brilliant finish

This kids on fire
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Post by: paul_e on October 05, 2021, 08:21:38 PM
Leading 3-2 best goal of the night, brilliant from Cam again.
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Post by: KNVillan on October 05, 2021, 08:21:38 PM
2-3…Cam again
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Post by: Nev on October 05, 2021, 08:21:59 PM
3 great goals.
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Post by: KNVillan on October 05, 2021, 08:28:59 PM
Cam’s second

https://twitter.com/academyavfc/status/1445470497882341379?s=21
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Post by: paul_e on October 05, 2021, 08:31:05 PM
has his hattrick now.
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Post by: Demitri_C on October 05, 2021, 08:31:40 PM
Archer hat trick! Unbelievable talent we have here
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Post by: Nev on October 05, 2021, 08:32:22 PM
Brilliant stuff.
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Post by: paul_e on October 05, 2021, 08:32:26 PM
very good play by caleb in the build up to drag the defender out and then play the pass into the gap it created.
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Post by: Nunkin1965 on October 05, 2021, 08:33:48 PM
Amazing.
Think we need to sort out a new contract for.him and Legion.
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Post by: Ian. on October 05, 2021, 08:41:32 PM
Amazing. When I last looked we had just got one back, now another hat-trick. Archer is a goal machine up front. Brilliant stuff, another exciting star in the making.
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 05, 2021, 08:43:46 PM
Villa equalise through Abldeen-Goodridge…2-2

I like to think I've been following the progress of the young kids but haven't heard of him before now.

It's worth noting that pretty much all the other PL U-21 teams are getting well beaten atm with Delfouneso scoring one of Bolton's 3 against Liverpool's kids.
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Post by: Ian. on October 05, 2021, 08:50:20 PM
I’ve just looked at all the groups. Everyone else’s academy’s are either bottom or just off bottom. Our young lads are really doing very well aren’t they.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 05, 2021, 08:51:20 PM
No 'pretty much' about it, they're all losing. I'm off to post about Ollie Watkins.
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Post by: paul_e on October 05, 2021, 08:51:23 PM
Villa equalise through Abldeen-Goodridge…2-2

I like to think I've been following the progress of the young kids but haven't heard of him before now.

It's worth noting that pretty much all the other PL U-21 teams are getting well beaten atm with Delfouneso scoring one of Bolton's 3 against Liverpool's kids.

He was a regular for the U18s last year and looked pretty decent, big step up for him today.

I sort of agree with CD about us being in this but it is does show how much better the system is now that even though we got overran for half an hour there's a steel to this kids.
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 05, 2021, 08:54:35 PM
No 'pretty much' about it, they're all losing. I'm off to post about Ollie Watkins.

Tbf when I last looked Wolves had been winning and Shrewsbury had just equalised. I see it went further downhill for them after that.
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Post by: paul_e on October 05, 2021, 08:58:06 PM
I’ve just looked at all the groups. Everyone else’s academy’s are either bottom or just off bottom. Our young lads are really doing very well aren’t they.

Ours is a strong group as well with all 3 of the teams we're in with likely to be in the mix for promotion to the championship at the end of the season.
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on October 05, 2021, 09:04:19 PM
Through to the next round with a game to spare
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Post by: Ian. on October 05, 2021, 09:10:47 PM
I’ve just looked at all the groups. Everyone else’s academy’s are either bottom or just off bottom. Our young lads are really doing very well aren’t they.

Ours is a strong group as well with all 3 of the teams we're in with likely to be in the mix for promotion to the championship at the end of the season.

It’s quite incredible as the step up is quite a jump. Fair play to them all and the coaches. It’s great to see.
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Post by: Demitri_C on October 05, 2021, 09:15:01 PM
Can you rest kids 😂

That would be a first
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Post by: john2710 on October 05, 2021, 09:21:42 PM
That was a superb second half performance. Looked like they were going to be out muscled in the first 30 mins, then went on to dominate.

Archer is some finisher & Bogarde looks like he could play all day.
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Post by: Percy McCarthy on October 05, 2021, 09:48:01 PM
700 Villa there apparently.
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Post by: charleeco7 on October 05, 2021, 09:55:32 PM
Cracking game. We got bullied for the first twenty mins or so and they pressed us into making mistakes. We seemed to gain confidence after the goal and kept trying to play football. Second half Caleb played deeper and improved, impressed by Bogarde, Lindley and Ealing (attacking wise) but head and shoulders above everyone was Archer. He’s strong, fast and scored three cracking goals.
Thoroughly enjoyable night.
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Post by: Dave P on October 06, 2021, 08:08:28 AM
Imagine taking 50000 to Wembley to see the kids
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 06, 2021, 11:18:24 AM
700 Villa there apparently.

Gotta say that's pretty impressive. Not only is it a fillip to the kids but it's also an extra few bob for a lower league team whose average attendance is 3k.
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Post by: Mister E on October 06, 2021, 05:01:50 PM
Caleb's certainly a big unit; and pretty neat footwork. How long till he'll be pushing for a first team squad slot?
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Post by: dave.woodhall on October 06, 2021, 05:08:30 PM
The way it's going it'll be easier to get a ticket for Wembley than for Watford at home.
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Post by: darren woolley on October 06, 2021, 07:30:54 PM
I was there last night we were brilliant to come back from 2-0 down shows how good we are.
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Post by: jwarry on October 07, 2021, 12:36:51 PM
Just been readings Preece’s article about Ajani Burchall which prompted me to dig out his obligatory YT video.  Check out his bit of skill at 2.34.  We have another potential star on our hands!

https://youtu.be/Ny0iSGJWfc8
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Post by: LukeJames on October 07, 2021, 07:34:01 PM
Anybody that watches it, be prepared to mute!
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 12, 2021, 08:43:58 PM
Bogarde and Swinkels both started for Netherlands U18 tonight, the former captaining the side to a 4-2 win over Austria.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 13, 2021, 07:19:15 PM
Declan Frith is a triallist no more. Put pen to paper on a pro contract today. Welcome aboard.
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 13, 2021, 07:38:55 PM
Hope Declan's a success as Ireland could do with a good winger.
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Post by: shirley_villan on October 13, 2021, 07:57:32 PM
Does anyone know when the next round of the EFL trophy is likely to be?
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Post by: The Moose on October 13, 2021, 08:44:03 PM
Away at MK Dons on Tuesday 26th October
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