FFP

[Dave P]

🚨 Aston Villa plan to play an exhibition match in Hong Kong this August — possibly against Bayern Munich.

"And play them again in the Super Cup in Leipzig"

[Mellin]

🚨 Aston Villa plan to play an exhibition match in Hong Kong this August — possibly against Bayern Munich.

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[paul_e]

Our FFP position appears to have got much worse since purslow left

No it hasn’t. It’s actually improved. It’s our SCR position which has got worse.

No it hasn't. SCR didn't exist until recently and it came in just as we threw the kitchen sink at getting into the European places so we failed it in the first year it applied to us and we've improved our position significantly in the 2nd year. It's just bad timing for us that it became a concern whilst we were in a speculation phase and had geared everything to operating on the limit of FFP/PSR.

[algy]

Our FFP position appears to have got much worse since purslow left

No it hasn’t. It’s actually improved. It’s our SCR position which has got worse.

No it hasn't. SCR didn't exist until recently and it came in just as we threw the kitchen sink at getting into the European places so we failed it in the first year it applied to us and we've improved our position significantly in the 2nd year. It's just bad timing for us that it became a concern whilst we were in a speculation phase and had geared everything to operating on the limit of FFP/PSR.

I think it all stems from us coming up with a 6 (?) player squad. We had to send big twice - once to have a squad at all, then again to get players who were anything like the quality we needed to stay up for any length of time. That expenditure meant when FFP started to properly kick in the following season we’ve had to spend our entire time trying to work with that. FFP seems to prioritise low transfer fees over low wages, so we’ve signed players for low transfer fees and high wages. Then we’ve qualified for Europe whilst we’re still wrangling with FFP, and the more complex SCR which does take wages in to account has bitten us, with UEFA’s penalties for that putting us in a straight jacket.

Think we have to accept that we’re in this straight jacket, but it’s not going to be forever.

[Demitri_C]

Our FFP position appears to have got much worse since purslow left

No it hasn’t. It’s actually improved. It’s our SCR position which has got worse.

No it hasn't. SCR didn't exist until recently and it came in just as we threw the kitchen sink at getting into the European places so we failed it in the first year it applied to us and we've improved our position significantly in the 2nd year. It's just bad timing for us that it became a concern whilst we were in a speculation phase and had geared everything to operating on the limit of FFP/PSR.

I think it all stems from us coming up with a 6 (?) player squad. We had to send big twice - once to have a squad at all, then again to get players who were anything like the quality we needed to stay up for any length of time. That expenditure meant when FFP started to properly kick in the following season we’ve had to spend our entire time trying to work with that. FFP seems to prioritise low transfer fees over low wages, so we’ve signed players for low transfer fees and high wages. Then we’ve qualified for Europe whilst we’re still wrangling with FFP, and the more complex SCR which does take wages in to account has bitten us, with UEFA’s penalties for that putting us in a straight jacket.

Think we have to accept that we’re in this straight jacket, but it’s not going to be forever.

The problem is we need this straight jacket off while unai is here. It wint be as effective if we have someone not as good as unai

[Drummond]

I sometimes read your posts in the voice of the copper in Allo Allo.

[ChicagoLion]

The only way is to keep getting CL football.

[paul_e]

Our FFP position appears to have got much worse since purslow left

No it hasn’t. It’s actually improved. It’s our SCR position which has got worse.

No it hasn't. SCR didn't exist until recently and it came in just as we threw the kitchen sink at getting into the European places so we failed it in the first year it applied to us and we've improved our position significantly in the 2nd year. It's just bad timing for us that it became a concern whilst we were in a speculation phase and had geared everything to operating on the limit of FFP/PSR.

I think it all stems from us coming up with a 6 (?) player squad. We had to send big twice - once to have a squad at all, then again to get players who were anything like the quality we needed to stay up for any length of time. That expenditure meant when FFP started to properly kick in the following season we’ve had to spend our entire time trying to work with that. FFP seems to prioritise low transfer fees over low wages, so we’ve signed players for low transfer fees and high wages. Then we’ve qualified for Europe whilst we’re still wrangling with FFP, and the more complex SCR which does take wages in to account has bitten us, with UEFA’s penalties for that putting us in a straight jacket.

Think we have to accept that we’re in this straight jacket, but it’s not going to be forever.

Yep, exactly this, also what can be excluded from one can't be from the other so plans we had 'in the drawer' ready to go ahead with at the right time (such as selling the womens team) do nothing to help us with UEFA despite us now being in a really healthy position with the premier league.

[Duncan Shaw]

The only way is to keep getting CL football.

It does feel that it is absolutely critical we qualify this season.

[Dante Lavelli]

The only way is to keep getting CL football.

It does feel that it is absolutely critical we qualify this season.

If we do, I hope we hold some of the money back this time. 

We need to find better balance between speculation/gambling and sustainable growth.  We have understandably taken risks to get here but a slight relaxation of the approach may lead to more stability in the long run.