FFP

[Dave]

And yet despite this and no real we are FFP skint. Can barely spend a few quid without having to sell first. Make it make sense.

It was inevitable that this is how it would be as soon as we dropped into the Europa League seven months ago. 

We still need our spending on wages, agents and amortised transfers to be no more than 70% of our total football revenue. That was always going to be fine for the current year, but we still need to do that next year without the Champions League money.

Oh I thought it was all the same deadline. When do we have to fix that by?

Presumably next summer. As this year we have loads of transfer and Champions League revenue to stay within the rules.

Next year, we probably won't due to the £50m+ drop in income from 24/25 to 25/26.

[AV82EC]

And yet despite this and no real we are FFP skint. Can barely spend a few quid without having to sell first. Make it make sense.

It was inevitable that this is how it would be as soon as we dropped into the Europa League seven months ago. 

We still need our spending on wages, agents and amortised transfers to be no more than 70% of our total football revenue. That was always going to be fine for the current year, but we still need to do that next year without the Champions League money.

Oh I thought it was all the same deadline. When do we have to fix that by?

Presumably next summer. As this year we have loads of transfer and Champions League revenue to stay within the rules.

Next year, we probably won't due to the £50m+ drop in income from 24/25 to 25/26.

I suppose the question is can we, like Newcastle have, offset some of the lack of CL money this season with increased commercial performance. I would also note that if we do get back into the CL next season, we will have CL income in our 2026 figures.

[Mister E]

And yet despite this and no real we are FFP skint. Can barely spend a few quid without having to sell first. Make it make sense.

We’re good payers and these figures are for 24/25. We’re now in a year with a significant drop in broadcast revenue. We live on the edge.

I notice that the the biggest single challenge - unsurprisingly - is the gap between our commercial revenue and that of the clubs around us: we still lack the large, long-term deals that only come when we can guarantee CL football every season (which, of course, also drives the broadcast and gate receipts).
The size of the task is truly huge, given the advantages of the other Premier League clubs (whose finances were allowed to rise unchecked before FFP came in).

To labour this point, our matchday and broadcast revenues are not so different to Dortmund and Citeh, but the commercial revenue for both far exceeds ours.

[paul_e]

It's worth noting with Newcastle that they flunked their year in the champions league so their rewards from it were tiny compared to us making the Quarter-finals last year.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

And yet despite this and no real we are FFP skint. Can barely spend a few quid without having to sell first. Make it make sense.

We’re good payers and these figures are for 24/25. We’re now in a year with a significant drop in broadcast revenue. We live on the edge.

Newcastle's broadcast revenue didn't drop that significantly despite missing out on CL. Are you expecting ours to drop by so much, Percy?

Just looking at the figures for Newcastle and the drop in CL revenue was massively offset by a €50m increase in commercial revenue.

Player trading writes off the fall in broadcast but where did they find the additional 30m comercial? Maybe shirt sales as we all know Geordies only own one shirt and Adidas are paying them handsomely.

[Dave]

It's worth noting with Newcastle that they flunked their year in the champions league so their rewards from it were tiny compared to us making the Quarter-finals last year.

Very true - although we were definitely aided by the format change coming in for our year.

[aj2k77]

Wage ratio was at 71% then for last season.

[DB]

Wage ratio was at 71% then for last season.

6th in PL.

[aj2k77]

That's lower than Chelsea and West Ham and the same as Newcastle's so UEFA can fuck off.

[andyh]

I don’t know if anyone here looks at Capology, but it seems to be an incredibly detailed financial database of all things football.

https://capology.com/club/aston-villa/salaries//


One thing that stands out for me.
We currently pay out £200k per week for Sancho and £65k per week for Elliot and £70k per week for Malen (50%).
That’s the equivalent to £1.4 MILLION per month on those 3.
Whoever agreed £200k per week for Sancho needs shooting.

Is it any wonder wonder we are screwed on CSR ?

[aj2k77]

Wages was Monchi's remit and he was shit at his job, hence why he was moved along.

[PeterWithe]

If true, I'd be more angry about us still paying part of Malens wages.

Sancho, it was always going to be a risk, but at least he can still contribute.

[aj2k77]

£200k per week has to contribute a little more than him turning up most of the time.

[PeterWithe]

Imagine Malen scoring the winner against us in the UEFA Cup Final, then sprinting over to the Villa bench to pick up his £70k wage cheque.

[aev]

I really hope those numbers aren't correct.