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Offline Mister E

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5625 on: Today at 08:49:41 AM »
How about one like Anfield, but with better transport links? Or an academy that generates more money than every other PL academy bar Chelsea’s? Or a manager like Emery? Or the richest non-state owners in the world? Or getting more players like Tielemans, Kamara, Rogers, McGinn and Konsa for next to fuck all? Or having higher revenue than the vast majority of clubs in England and Europe? Won’t stuff like that allow us to compete?
Only we competed with them alright the last three seasons.
For scr purposes nothing in that bold bit matters. It's even worse than ffp in that it only cares about commercial performance, sporting success is only relevant for the prize money and potential for better sponsorship.
Yep. UEFA would argue that it is there to prevent clubs 'buying' their success by bringing in high wage-earners, ignoring the point that for clubs with low commercial potential the SCR is a brake on success. It's a very blunt instrument as far as measuring or underpinning the sustainability of the enterprise is concerned (because it has no link to the underlying wealth of the club and its owners) and clearly favours clubs with an already-high revenue-base (hence the drawbridge analogy often used).

Offline garyellis

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5626 on: Today at 09:02:18 AM »
We all know how the club have milked match day income over the last couple of years.
Only when the price had sufficiently moved up have the plans to grow capacity being put in place.
We have seen positive developments on the commercial revenue front and there is much more to do.
I would assume there would be a similar strategy and pecking order to how we develop this area as opposed to will you sponsor our dirty laundry for a few quid.
We seemed to “win” the fight with FFP but our owners and execs must have seen SCR coming and have a plan for the future.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5627 on: Today at 10:00:19 AM »
The money does have to be paid, and in most cases the payments are spread over several years. But for the point of FFP working out, only 3/4 of the fee will appear at most at any one time and others are then dropping off, but the whole of the sold home-grown is on for the three years. So previously Elanga, McTominay, Greenwood, Henderson and the lower priced but multiple numbers of lower placed players all helped them waste the money the last few years.

But as SCR seems to be the new thing, it doesn't surprise me that all the clubs with the most revenues are spending all the money this year.

Yep, it’s all about revenue. I wonder how long before NSWE realise that only a Spurs style stadium will allow us to compete.

How about one like Anfield, but with better transport links? Or an academy that generates more money than every other PL academy bar Chelsea’s? Or a manager like Emery? Or the richest non-state owners in the world? Or getting more players like Tielemans, Kamara, Rogers, McGinn and Konsa for next to fuck all? Or having higher revenue than the vast majority of clubs in England and Europe? Won’t stuff like that allow us to compete?

Only we competed with them alright the last three seasons.

Great post Percy.
There are loads of issues that face Villa re compliance, however all this pain from uefa has been on a turnover of £270m, this year according to Heck our turnover will be £360/370m. I believe that this year was the tough one, as long as the team produce on the pitch we will be able to continue to grow and close the gap on the sky six.
I believe that NSWE have a plan.

 


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