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Re: FFP
« Reply #5355 on: August 18, 2025, 07:22:35 PM »
Incredible isn't it?  Bournemouth, they of the 23000 gates for a home game, have spent 100 million quid.  We can't spend shit.

Not particularly incredible. Bournemouth have a wage bill one-fifth of ours and have sold £200m-worth of players this summer.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5356 on: August 18, 2025, 07:26:48 PM »
Incredible isn't it?  Bournemouth, they of the 23000 gates for a home game, have spent 100 million quid.  We can't spend shit.

I think it’s more like 12,000 isn’t it?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5357 on: August 18, 2025, 07:28:17 PM »
Can we have a separate thread for people to express incredulity at other clubs spending money, before asking why they're allowed to do it (in the tone of a particularly stroppy schoolgirl who's been caught smoking in the eighties)?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5358 on: August 18, 2025, 07:32:17 PM »
Not strictly FFP but the difference between the PL and the rest of Europe

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With two weeks to go until the Premier League summer transfer window closes, clubs are well on course to spend a record amount on new players.

Data from Transfermarkt, external shows that Premier League clubs have already spent £2.26bn on players since the window opened at the start of June.

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English top-flight clubs have exceeded the transfer investments of Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1 and La Liga teams combined.

Clubs in the Premier League have spent £1bn more than they have raised in sales.

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In La Liga, Serie A, the Bundesliga and Ligue 1, only Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid have spent more than the £140m-plus Sunderland have paid for players.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cj9wrpnggvlo

Offline adrenachrome

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5359 on: August 18, 2025, 07:34:34 PM »
Incredible isn't it?  Bournemouth, they of the 23000 gates for a home game, have spent 100 million quid.  We can't spend shit.

I think it’s more like 12,000 isn’t it?

11,214 according to this:

https://footballrates.com/attendances/average-2024

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5360 on: August 18, 2025, 08:05:44 PM »
Not strictly FFP but the difference between the PL and the rest of Europe

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With two weeks to go until the Premier League summer transfer window closes, clubs are well on course to spend a record amount on new players.

Data from Transfermarkt, external shows that Premier League clubs have already spent £2.26bn on players since the window opened at the start of June.

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English top-flight clubs have exceeded the transfer investments of Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1 and La Liga teams combined.

Clubs in the Premier League have spent £1bn more than they have raised in sales.

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In La Liga, Serie A, the Bundesliga and Ligue 1, only Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid have spent more than the £140m-plus Sunderland have paid for players.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cj9wrpnggvlo

See, this is where our hope lies. As I’m very fond of pointing out ad nauseum, we can afford virtually every professional footballer in the world and we can have 25 of the best of them, same as everybody else. Scouting, coaching, the academy - we can afford to match the best in class without financial restrictions.

The French league is the one for me - physically demanding, technically good and best of all (for us) skint.

Keep going with the stadium expansion, the Warehouse and more, get people to the ground for longer. That’s the game changer for Spurs. How many clubs could get a 60k stadium with two (three if you count Perry Barr) railway stations on two different train lines at either end of the ground, located five minutes from the best connected motorway junction in the country, for about half-a-billion pounds? Elite training facilities all bought and paid for. Academy facilities on two different sites. And my favourite cliche - the biggest club in the second biggest city in the richest and most popular league on the planet.

If these owners with all their backing can’t make the right investment decisions to make all that work it’s almost negligent.


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Re: FFP
« Reply #5361 on: August 18, 2025, 08:08:30 PM »
Let's not kid ourselves, it's all been about pulling up the drawbridge to stop others coming in and threatening the status quo.

Nooooo…it’s all to stop another Portsmouth the cartel will tell you….

…as noses grow and grow

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5362 on: August 18, 2025, 08:13:36 PM »
The message is starting to get through, I think. The "moaning" is, at least, bringing some attention to the unfair system. More moaning, please.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5363 on: August 18, 2025, 08:14:10 PM »
Agree Percy, it’s a waste of energy going on about how we are being victimised and coming up with “fairer” financial governance.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5364 on: August 18, 2025, 08:20:56 PM »
Spot on Percy
Man Utd with their untold riches demonstrate how to waste resources ad infinitum since SAF.
Brighton know how to squeeze every pip with their high squad turnover.
We need the model in between which gives us plenty of options executed correctly.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5365 on: August 18, 2025, 08:27:47 PM »
I think we’ve spent far too much time just quietly accepting everything, which is kind of summed up by the recent statement that we’re not on any of the advisory boards etc.

I’m all for us moaning shit loadswhilst also trying to compete anyway.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5366 on: August 18, 2025, 08:38:22 PM »
Agree Percy, it’s a waste of energy going on about how we are being victimised and coming up with “fairer” financial governance.

As Dave pointed out the other day, we only want it to be a teeny-tiny bit “fairer”. Or we could use some imagination and creativity to raise our revenues and keep the rules the same.

Associated party transactions (APT) are not banned - they just have to be deemed fair value. So there’s nothing to stop the owners and their businesses from sponsoring the training kit, Bodymoor Heath and the stately home of football for however much they can make a case for. How much do Newcastle give themselves through Sela?

Oh, and buy Kang In Lee or whatever his name is from PSG.

« Last Edit: August 18, 2025, 08:55:06 PM by Percy McCarthy »

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5367 on: August 18, 2025, 08:43:34 PM »
How about the owners seats are £1m per game? Or would the PL/UEFA have an issue?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5368 on: August 18, 2025, 08:45:02 PM »
How about the owners seats are £1m per game? Or would the PL/UEFA have an issue?

Don’t give Chelsea any ideas

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5369 on: August 18, 2025, 08:52:41 PM »
How about the owners seats are £1m per game? Or would the PL/UEFA have an issue?

Don’t give Chelsea any ideas

Haha yeah, or Man City and the Jaudis.

 


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