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Offline DB

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5340 on: Today at 04:50:05 PM »

Offline Russ aka Big Nose

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5341 on: Today at 04:54:16 PM »
Some clubs are deciding that investing in recruitment is better than investing in developing their own talent.

Clubs like Brighton and Brentford are more akin to a finishing school that bring players in and look to make a quick profit. They are less interested in the infrastructure to support long-term player development.

The current model only increases the view that children - increasingly from impoverished countries around the world - are chattels to be traded, or to be discarded if they don't have sufficient economic value.

It's always happened to some extent - though taking kids from African countries (to a large extent) to Europe for the chance to make money - is different to kids in this country getting drafted into their local club or one near-ish only to be rejected at some point. Another unpleasant outcome from the current direction of travel.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5342 on: Today at 05:34:07 PM »
The thing that many are struggling with is that it’s not those clubs that have built up their brand, reputation, trophy cabinets through what they’ve mainly achieved on the pitch. Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal for example all were strong sides in the past thirty or so years before the commercial explosion. And they thrived through it all. It’s the clubs who had no prior success to speak of that were bankrolled by the likes of Mansour or Abramovich that propelled to the elite.

Don't think anyone is "struggling" with that. It's just that not everyone thinks that the way to "fix" it is to let more teams do Chelsea cosplay. 

It's shit that they were the lucky (?) ones who were able to do it, but that situation isn't made less shit by letting two more teams do the thing that we've spent the last twenty years on here calling out as being one of the worst things to happen to football.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5343 on: Today at 05:43:22 PM »
It would be made less shit for us and Newcastle. Which would make the league more exciting.

If one of the Red ****** crashes and burns as a result, then the rest of the league basks in the radiant and glorious heat of that. Or it cracks the whole thing wide open.

Either way, I want what's best for Aston Villa, and these rules are absolutely not it.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5344 on: Today at 05:48:29 PM »
Either way, I want what's best for Aston Villa, and these rules are absolutely not it.

And that's the thing. If tomorrow the rules change and the Premier League and UEFA sent out a statement saying "crack on lads, all restrictions are off, spend what you like" then I'll enjoy all the shiny new baubles as much as anyone else.

But when we go and spend £300m and buy Bowen, Branthwaite, Eze and Wharton - I'll be having a big old laugh at anyone who suggests that it's a victory for fairness and level playing fields. We're grumpy because we're (just about) on the wrong side of the "rules are unfair" divide and we want to be on the other side of them like Chelsea and Man City are.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5345 on: Today at 05:52:50 PM »
You're diluting the centralised power that exists by adding more clubs who can do it. Forest would let rip as well, possibly others. If half the kevaue van chuck £100m about on 1 player or spend £300m and window, then it makes Liverpool for example less impressive.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5346 on: Today at 05:56:38 PM »
I’m quite happy nowadays for premier league clubs to spend as they wish and then it becomes a good old fashioned who’s got the best recruitment and coach.  There’s only eleven starting each week so it doesn’t necessarily follow that every decent player will choose the wankers.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5347 on: Today at 06:00:11 PM »
I’m quite happy nowadays for premier league clubs to spend as they wish and then it becomes a good old fashioned who’s got the best recruitment and coach.  There’s only eleven starting each week so it doesn’t necessarily follow that every decent player will choose the wankers.

And so it will continue.

And the idea that adding 2 more clubs into the mix isn’t much better, there isn’t anything to stop the other wonders having a crack.

We are set up well - a brilliant manager and ambitious owners.

And yet we are stuck where we are.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5348 on: Today at 06:01:58 PM »
Knowing our luck the noses will get promoted when all the rules are scrapped after we’ve been to court to have them overturned.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5349 on: Today at 06:11:47 PM »
Knowing our luck the noses will get promoted when all the rules are scrapped after we’ve been to court to have them overturned.


Their owners will be long gone by then

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5350 on: Today at 06:12:01 PM »
I’m quite happy nowadays for premier league clubs to spend as they wish and then it becomes a good old fashioned who’s got the best recruitment and coach.  There’s only eleven starting each week so it doesn’t necessarily follow that every decent player will choose the wankers.

How would it end up like that if there were no restrictions?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5351 on: Today at 06:52:29 PM »
I'm pretty bored by it all. Didn't check the Newcastle score until a few hours after the game. Caveat is that I'm driving around Europe, but usually I'd still be locked on to it and fight to find a bar. Completely disengaged this summer too.

Think it's the capitalist nature of the game being advertised so unavoidably. Not sure how many fucks I have left to give at this stage. I'd rather watch competitive sport than figures on a spreadsheet projected on to a pitch.

Loving the golf and cricket though. Masters was top level drama and England - India great. Looking forward to the Ashes. Don't know who Villa have next.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5352 on: Today at 07:17:23 PM »
Incredible isn't it?  Bournemouth, they of the 23000 gates for a home game, have spent 100 million quid.  We can't spend shit.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5353 on: Today at 07:20:46 PM »
They've recouped well over double that.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5354 on: Today at 07:20:57 PM »
They've sold £147 million pounds worth of defenders recently.

 


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