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Re: FFP
« Reply #5235 on: August 15, 2025, 10:42:41 PM »
I still don't get how Forest can go from points deductions on PSR to suddenly having £120 million to chuck about.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5236 on: August 15, 2025, 11:00:57 PM »
I still don't get how Forest can go from points deductions on PSR to suddenly having £120 million to chuck about.

Because they have already sold £100mil of players I suspect.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5237 on: August 15, 2025, 11:03:44 PM »
They probably had a shit year drop off and a much better one replace it.

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« Reply #5238 on: August 15, 2025, 11:15:10 PM »
The one to drop off might well be the one they spent £200mil on, kept Johnson and sold him for alot more then they would have if they had complied with the rules (which officially went into making the next season figures look a lot better) and then got away with a slap of only -4 points in a season when the bottom three averaged 22 points.

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« Reply #5239 on: August 15, 2025, 11:25:17 PM »
And we're assuming they don't give 2 flying ducks about the UEFA rules that we seem to have agreed a deal akin to George Osborne at his most austerity driven best.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5240 on: August 15, 2025, 11:30:51 PM »
They haven't breached any Uefa competition rules so they don't need an agreement to avoid further punishment.

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« Reply #5241 on: August 15, 2025, 11:38:11 PM »
We've sold £285m of players, have a net spend of plus 70 odd million, must have brought in 80m plus from the CL, got record sponsor deals, still managed to some how have a half decent side on the pitch, and we can't spend another £20m fee this window because of the rules, according to the local press people, because of the restrictions we're now under. None of it adds up with where even the wildest estimates can be for our wages to turnover now. How on earth did Chelsea get a 12 month extension and we get hit like this. Emery must be seething inside. All his hard work all his brilliance. When we sell Rogers to please some fuckwit at UEFA next summer to a club blatantly paying them off they'll get what they want. It's all shite. Barcelona get away with being totally broke and Uefa don't bat an eyelid.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5242 on: August 15, 2025, 11:44:51 PM »
^^
Especially when it’s not a fair and level playing field.

I keep banging on about it, and I know it’s monotonous, but the fact we are so hamstrung by pathetic financial governances, imposed by 2 different football authorities, while other clubs spend money with impunity purely because of who they are, is really pissing me off.

I appreciate this isn't going to be a popular opinion, but we don't want it to be "a fair and level playing field", we want the thumb that's currently on the scales to be moved a tiny bit more so that it benefits us more than it already is.

Other clubs spend money that we can't spend due to their greater revenues. Just like we've been spending money that clubs earning less than us can't spend. I'm sure, I dunno, Eintracht Frankfurt or Villarreal would love to have chucked a couple of hundred million and a few hundred thousand a week at new players when we were. But they can't.

Sporting CP's wage bill (now they've sold Gyokeres) is around one twelfth of ours. How about rather than levelling the playing field so that one more club can spend whatever they want, how about levelling it the other way so that a solid Premier League side isn’t able to spend ten times on wages what the best sides in most other countries can?

If the rules meant that everything was done on integrity,  sporting merit, wise investment and club administration rather than the bigger clubs just bullying the rest, we'd probably still be pissing around in the Championship. But we're not, because we used our size and greater spending power to smack the likes of Bristol City and Middlesbrough out of our way. I imagine we'd have given their moaning about fairness and level playing fields pretty short-shrift at the time.
Well said

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« Reply #5243 on: August 15, 2025, 11:46:25 PM »
We've sold £285m of players, have a net spend of plus 70 odd million, must have brought in 80m plus from the CL, got record sponsor deals, still managed to some how have a half decent side on the pitch, and we can't spend another £20m fee this window because of the rules, according to the local press people, because of the restrictions we're now under. None of it adds up with where even the wildest estimates can be for our wages to turnover now. How on earth did Chelsea get a 12 month extension and we get hit like this. Emery must be seething inside. All his hard work all his brilliance. When we sell Rogers to please some fuckwit at UEFA next summer to a club blatantly paying them off they'll get what they want. It's all shite. Barcelona get away with being totally broke and Uefa don't bat an eyelid.

Helps when clubs have a competent sporting director and team behind them.  We have the comedy duo of Monchi and Vidagany who bad decision after bad decision, and now Emery almost encouraging bids for Martinez in his press conference today.  Sorry, but serious questions need asking of the club from board down to manager now.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5244 on: August 15, 2025, 11:46:48 PM »
I've mentioned before, can ANYONE actually point me to Chelsea having a 12 month extension? Several people have posted they have done this but I can't find any official mention at all. As they already have a bigger, and more extended punishment then we do fo 2 years of finance issues, I would be surprised if it was allowed to them and no-one else.

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« Reply #5245 on: August 15, 2025, 11:47:36 PM »
We've sold £285m of players, have a net spend of plus 70 odd million, must have brought in 80m plus from the CL, got record sponsor deals, still managed to some how have a half decent side on the pitch, and we can't spend another £20m fee this window because of the rules, according to the local press people, because of the restrictions we're now under. None of it adds up with where even the wildest estimates can be for our wages to turnover now. How on earth did Chelsea get a 12 month extension and we get hit like this. Emery must be seething inside. All his hard work all his brilliance. When we sell Rogers to please some fuckwit at UEFA next summer to a club blatantly paying them off they'll get what they want. It's all shite. Barcelona get away with being totally broke and Uefa don't bat an eyelid.

Helps when clubs have a competent sporting director and team behind them.  We have the comedy duo of Monchi and Vidagany who bad decision after bad decision, and now Emery almost encouraging bids for Martinez in his press conference today.  Sorry, but serious questions need asking of the club from board down to manager now.

Welcome back.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5246 on: August 15, 2025, 11:49:25 PM »
Nurse, nurse, he is off his meds again and found his way to a computer.

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« Reply #5247 on: Today at 12:40:50 AM »
We've sold £285m of players, have a net spend of plus 70 odd million, must have brought in 80m plus from the CL, got record sponsor deals, still managed to some how have a half decent side on the pitch, and we can't spend another £20m fee this window because of the rules, according to the local press people, because of the restrictions we're now under. None of it adds up with where even the wildest estimates can be for our wages to turnover now. How on earth did Chelsea get a 12 month extension and we get hit like this. Emery must be seething inside. All his hard work all his brilliance. When we sell Rogers to please some fuckwit at UEFA next summer to a club blatantly paying them off they'll get what they want. It's all shite. Barcelona get away with being totally broke and Uefa don't bat an eyelid.

Helps when clubs have a competent sporting director and team behind them.  We have the comedy duo of Monchi and Vidagany who bad decision after bad decision, and now Emery almost encouraging bids for Martinez in his press conference today.  Sorry, but serious questions need asking of the club from board down to manager now.

Oh do fuck off you repetitive git.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #5248 on: Today at 01:16:01 AM »
I've mentioned before, can ANYONE actually point me to Chelsea having a 12 month extension? Several people have posted they have done this but I can't find any official mention at all. As they already have a bigger, and more extended punishment then we do fo 2 years of finance issues, I would be surprised if it was allowed to them and no-one else.

I've linked it before but if you look for the actual ruling from UEFA it says that years 2-4 they need to comply with the same restrictions we have but this season they have to meet targets set in an interim business plan that was agreed between UEFA and the club.

So not complete freedom to do whatever they want but clearly it allows them to throw money around again.

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« Reply #5249 on: Today at 02:07:31 AM »
Someone’s posted a stat up on Facebook saying we’ve sold £262m of players in the last 13 months.  How on earth are we still not able to spend?!

 


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